PA/TNA and Bee Sting Allergy - any correlation?

Posted on: Thu, 07/12/2007 - 3:28pm
mfharris's picture
Joined: 02/21/2007 - 09:00

A few days ago my PA/TNA daughter was stung by a bee for the first time - ironically in the parking lot of our pediatrician's office as we were walking in to pick up a referral to the allergist for my son. Weird.

Anyway, the RN gave her Benedryl and watched her for 15 minutes, then she was seen by the doctor. No problems breathing, but a red marks (not really hives) around her neck and shoulder. Now I'm afraid she may be allergic to bee stings on top of the PA/TN. Of course we won't know until the next sting, which is terrifying. BTW, my mom is anaphylactic to bee stings - does this give my daughter greater chance of being allergic too?

Are there a lot of PA/TNA folks who are allergic to bee stings as well?

Posted on: Thu, 07/12/2007 - 6:05pm
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Joined: 02/14/2000 - 09:00

Where on her body was she stung?

Posted on: Thu, 07/12/2007 - 11:03pm
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Joined: 04/23/2007 - 09:00

My DS (age 5) who has PA was stung by a bee for the first time a few weeks ago. Nothing happened! Luckily, one of my good friends with killer (long) fingernails was there and able to pull the stinger out very quickly....maybe that helped. It got a little red, but within a short period went away and we could barely tell he had even been stung. I was a nervous wreck as it was his first, but all indications lead me think he's not allergic to bee stings.
Just our story. I'll be interested to hear other's...
[This message has been edited by PeanutFreeInMD (edited July 13, 2007).]

Posted on: Thu, 07/12/2007 - 11:29pm
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Joined: 05/16/2007 - 09:00

hi mfharris
my daughter (15) was stung by a bee on july third and she is still in the hospital, she has mfa including pa and tna, but since the sting she has been reacting to literally everything that she has eaten. so she is getting nutrition through the pick line. i hope that your daughter does not get stung again, adn if she does i hope she is not allergic.

Posted on: Fri, 07/13/2007 - 12:18am
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Joined: 04/18/2005 - 09:00

Well, allergies run in families and people who are allergic to one thing have a tendency to become allergic to another. My DD is PA and my DH is allergic to bee stings. My kids have never been stung and I've only been stung once, so really we don't know about the rest of us.
16pamom, that's so sad about your DD. After my DH was stung and had an allergic reaction as an adult, his environmental allergies worsened. He'd had some mild, barely detectable allergies to things like dust and dogs before, but they all got noticeably worse for some years after that. He talked to a Dr. about it, and that Dr. said it wasn't possible that the sting had any effect on his other allergies. We don't buy it, though. It just hasn't been studied. And allergic load is a reality; when your body is already reacting, your allergic sensitivity can be greater. It's like what they know happens with asthma. If you've had an asthma attack and your airways haven't gone back down to normal, your next trigger will cause a worse attack than the last.

Posted on: Fri, 07/13/2007 - 12:43am
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Joined: 02/21/2007 - 09:00

16pamom - I hope your daughter makes a full and speedy recovery. What a scary ordeal for you. I assume this wasn't her first bee sting?
Gale - she was stung on the back of her calf. She's only 4 so a great deal of her leg was red/swollen, but the Benedryl really helped - it's barely visible right now. The stinger was out by the time we got into the building.
My DH isn't allergic, and I've only been stung once. It's terrifying to me to think that the next sting could be life-threatening, and it could happen anywhere, anytime. She doesn't carry an EpiPen on a belt, we (or whoever she's with) carry it everywhere. Maybe that just isn't safe enough. What do you think?
My DD and I both have new garden beds this year where we love to spend time together weeding and looking at the blooms. I hate to give that up - and I don't want to scare her, but I also want to try and avoid that second sting. Poor kid - we have enough on our plate with the PA/TNA!

Posted on: Fri, 07/13/2007 - 1:51am
TNAmom's picture
Joined: 11/29/2005 - 09:00

I am allergic to bee stings - or I was. Haven't been stung since I was a child, but I reacted then.
My daughter is TNA. She has never been stung, so we don't know about a potential sting allergy.

Posted on: Fri, 07/13/2007 - 2:19am
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Joined: 05/22/2001 - 09:00

I am allergic to vespid stings (wasps). But [i]not[/i] honeybee stings. At least not that I'm aware of. I've been stung only a handful of times, though-- so it is possible I could develop a systematic response to that venom as well. I seem to have an exaggerated response to a lot of insect venoms.
I have been stung only a few times in my life by wasps. The first time, I puffed up like the Michelin man-- parents gave me Benadryl for a couple of days.
The second time I was a teenager and got stung while I was playing soccer-- again, my entire arm swelled up like a sausage, I had some asthma problems and was extremely nauseous.... which at the time, I thought was cooincidental. Now, of course, I know that I should have been more concerned. I carry epinephrine.
OTOH-- when I asked DD's allergist about this possibility, he laughed and said, "Well, you're in a better position to [i]deal[/i] with a bad reaction than 99% of my patients who find out they have one." I can see his point. Think about my allergic reaction when I was a teenager. All I had on hand was my inhaler, and I was vomiting and my face was swollen. My daughter wouldn't be in that position.
BTW, this is quite a realistic concern in my family, as my BIL has a honeybee allergy and my mother has/had a wasp allergy as well (though she's never had the kind of symptoms that lead her to think she needs epi). Whatever.

Posted on: Fri, 07/13/2007 - 2:41am
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Joined: 12/14/2006 - 09:00

My mom is allergic to bees(and should really have an Epipen, but she won't take it seriously). My son Jake(the p/ta) has been stung by a wasp once, with no reaction. I am afraid I am allergic to bees, but I've never been stung. You can't avoid bees....that is impossible, so you just take measures to be prepared. I have epi's on us at ALL times, so if indeed someone comes up allergic the next time they are stung, I am prepared. What else can I do??
Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 1/2(beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 1/2(peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-4 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
Savannah-1 1/2 (milk and egg)

Posted on: Fri, 07/13/2007 - 3:27am
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I'm pa/sesame allergic. My youngest son is allergic to something that bites and something that stings. But, any insect bite or sting is worse for him than most people. His reactions have not been life-threatening, but he was taken to the ER for two reactions, and both times the ER doctor wanted him to stay for several hours to be closely monitored. He told me I should get an epi-pen for him. (Stupid of me -- I should have demanded he prescribe one. I had my adult strength, but my son was only two years old that first reaction.)
Anyway, I don't think there's a direct link between pa and bee sting allergy. I think he inherited the tendancy to have an allergy, but not specifically that allergy. My other kids have different allergies.

Posted on: Fri, 07/13/2007 - 4:50am
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Joined: 04/21/2001 - 09:00

This topic was raised at a FAAN conference a few years ago and the MD said that there was no known correlation. And he made a cure comment about "well, you would have your EPI with you anyway ..."


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