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Posted on: Fri, 04/19/2002 - 2:16pm
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pPANIC ATTACKS WERE A DAILY PART OF MY LIFE ABOUT 6 OR 7 YEARS AGO. MY HUSBAND AND I WERE GOING THROUGH MARITAL PROBLEMS AND ONE DAY I JUST LOST IT.. WENT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM THINKING I HAD A HEART ATTACK WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS ANXIETY.. AFTER MANY HOURS WITH THERAPY AND MEDICATION I FINALLY FOUND A THERAPIST WHO DID NOT BELIEVE IN MEDICATION THINKING IT WOULD ONLY REPLACE ONE PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER. I LISTENED AND TODAY AM SOMEWHAT FREE OF THEM EXCEPT ON OCCASION WHEN THIS ALLERGY WITH MY SON GETS THE BEST OF ME... I WAS TAUGHT TO LET THE PANIC COME.. REMEMBER THAT PANIC IS GOING TO COME NO MATTER HOW HARD WE TRY TO STOP IT . SOMETIMES THE MORE WE TRY TO RUN FROM IT THE WORST IT GETS... I NUMBER THE STRENGHT OF THEM ... OH THIS IS A 6 OR WAS TOLD TO GIVE MYSELF A BREAK AND INSTEAD OF SAYING "WHY WONT THIS GO AWAY" SAY " WELL OF COURSE IM HAVING AN ATTACK , MY SON IS AT A BIRTHDAY PARTY TODAY YOU BET IM ANXIOUS' OR WELL THE MONEY IS SHORT THIS WEEK AND THE BILLS ARE LATE WHY WOULDNT I FEEL STRESSED.. AFTER A WHILE IT HELPED ME TO GIVE MYSELF PERMISSION TO FEEL ANXIOUS..TO JUST SAY WHILE IM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MALL AND MY HANDS START TO GET COLD AND MY FEET ARE FEELING SWEATING " OK YOU SON OF A ##### COME AND GET ME AND GET IT OVER WITH.. I KNOW IT SOUNDS EASY BUT TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO COULD NOT WORK FOR 2 YEARS AND WAS HOUSE BOUND TO THE POINT OF NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE MAIL THAT IT CAN BE CONQUERED. SORRY FOR SO LONG BUT THIS ONE REALLY HIT ME HARD .. BEST OF LUCK AND REMEMBER , OUR MINDS ARE VERY POWERFUL TO HELP US GET THROUGH THINGS LIKE THIS.. KATHY ANN/p

Posted on: Fri, 04/19/2002 - 2:17pm
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Posted on: Sat, 04/20/2002 - 12:51pm
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pMomOf4, you sound just like me./p
pNo one could understand how I could make the quantum leap from a bruise to leukemia, to borrow your example. After Lauren's anaphylactic reaction 2 yrs ago, I shut down for about 4 days. It was all I could do to get out of bed. I got to the point where I could not be home alone. If my DH had to work, I would go to my mother's until his shift ended at 11pm. My last "episode" lasted about 6 weeks. I felt like I was drowning in the world. Anything could trigger one of these attacks and I can remember getting them as long as 17 yrs ago as a sophomore in HS. Back then i did not know it was anxiety and thought I was crazy. If I caught an attack early enough, sometimes I could talk my way out of it. Sometimes something as simple as turning on music and dancing around the house could get my mind to stop. Most times it was just too powerful./p
pMy MD wanted to put me on Paxal but I too am nursing and refused to stop because of this and do not like the idea of daily meds. However, I have found a solution that works for me./p
pMy ND has told me that people who have anxiety, or should I show people who are prone to anxiety, have vitamin B deficiencies (don't quote me on that. She might have said "do not absorb it properly"). Furthermore, she said that refined sugar counters the effects of the vitamin B (and, interestingly enough, she said the refined sugar also counters the Paxal too.)/p
pI have been on a B complex now since 2nd week of Feb. I do get anxiety but it is the manageable kind...the kind I can only assume "normal" people get./p
pI hope you are feeling better soon./p

Posted on: Sun, 04/21/2002 - 5:42am
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pMomof4,/p
pI have a PA son and also went through a long period of time where I had panic attacks. I thought I was going crazy and then began to worry that I wouldn't even be able to take care of my kids if I didn't get them under control. I am so sorry you are going through this! When you stop nursing, please see your doctor because anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications really do work. I took them for a few months then was able to go off them and cope fairly well on my own. In the mean time, try Jes3311's ideas. Just accepting the panic and knowing that it will be over soon and won't harm you can loosen panic's hold over you. About school, I have found that there are alot of steps I can take to reduce my level of anxiety about my PA son at school. The whole staff at my school has been educated on PA, Epi-pen trained, etc. and I keep Benadryl and an Epi-pen in the health office and in the teacher's desk. In the file given to substitutes is info on my PA son with his photo. I also meet with all his "specials" teachers (PE, music) etc. at the beginning of every year to remind them. I provide a tub of safe treats for my son to substitute for candy and another to substitute for birthday celebrations. He brings his lunch and if anyone gives him any candy he brings it home unwrapped. I'm the room mom and control all the party food, and go on all field trips. I occasionally help out with lunch duty and get to know the lunch monitors. Taking these precautions and establishing a good relationship with the school staff really helps my peace of mind. Now that my son is older, I feel hopeful that he is more able to refuse treats offered and he is doing a really great job. I also take snacks to share on all playdates and he doesn't eat meals there. If I don't feel comfortable with the parents, I don't let him go. Now that he plays sports we bring our own snacks there too. It seems overwhelming every year at the beginning of the school year to go through it all again and get to know his new friends and their parents, but it can be done and really helps you feel safe letting them out into the world. Sorry so long but I wanted to let you know it does get easier. Good luck and hang in there. /p
pJanet/p

Posted on: Tue, 04/23/2002 - 12:53pm
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pThank you all for responding. I will be going to the drug store and getting the b vitamins, I have heard alot about that, just never did it. I called the school today and have a meeting scheduled with the principal again for Friday. My daughter has several field trips coming up so that is alot of what has set off the Panic attacks. As we all know and remember, the tragic situation last year that took place up in Washington state. That is always in my head, end of year, field trip...STRESS...PANIC ATTACK!!!!! I called the school cafeteria manager and spoke to her also about the packed lunches for the other students. They do not serve Peanut butter and jelly. They serve ham and cheese or turkey and cheese sandwiches and do not make or sell peanut butter cookies. I am still packing her lunch, but at least the others will not have peanut. I only had one panic attack today, and it wasn't a bad one, only maybe a 4 or 5. So I was able to get some cleaning done and enjoy the day more. Tomorrow is a new day, will see how I feel when I wake up. PA sure seems like that saying for AA groups, they take one day at a time. I can see why, right now that is all I can take at a time. Thank you all for your input, every bit helps./p

Posted on: Thu, 05/02/2002 - 5:10am
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pThis is off the topic a little bit, but today my son had a near-miss at school in the cafeteria when his buddy's PB sandwich somehow got put down in my son's lunchbox and my son nearly took a bite. My son did not have a reaction but had a panic attack. This is so sad. He is only 9 and I feel like I've made him paranoid. He can't remember his only PA reaction which was at 18 months. /p
pJes3311 -- I'm going to share your tips with my son about checking his lips, breathing slowly, trying to drink water when he has calmed down, checking for hives and swelling, etc. I hope it helps him next time. I've always been anxious about his PA, but this is the first time he ever freaked out./p
pI don't know where else I would turn for support. My husband thinks it is all my fault for "making such a big deal out of the PA". The child is constantly surrounded by kids eating PB at school, constantly being offered snacks at sports games, constantly being given candy by teachers and the bus driver, constantly having to deal with neighbors offering him snacks, etc. It is no wonder the poor child lost it. I am so tired of this PA right now./p

Posted on: Thu, 05/02/2002 - 12:10pm
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pI don't think it's wrong to make a big deal out of something so dangerous. I would think a 9 yr. old would have a panic attack if he found a loaded gun in his locker or an envelope full of poison too. Wouldn't he panic if a stranger tried to pull him into a car? You've taught him to be afraid of things that he should be afraid of! I'm so sorry that your son had that experience, but almost eating something that could kill you is sufficiently scary to justify such a response. I panic (freeze, sweat, etc.) whenever I see a wasp and I've not had a reaction for over 20 years. /p
pMaybe if you reassure him (you probably already have) that he did all the right things and proved that he CAN handle it, he'll feel better. (I would say next time, but hopefully there won't be a next time!)br /
If he sincerely feels frightened by his environment at school, maybe it's a normal reaction to an unsafe situation. Is he comfortable with the steps the school has taken to insure his safety? Should he be?/p
pI hope he and you are feeling better about the whole thing soon./p

Posted on: Mon, 05/06/2002 - 7:51am
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pThanks, momjd. We are both feeling better about it now. I was nearly postal the day after it happened when I had to deal with yet another ice cream party, but I got over it! It's just nice to know there are other people dealing with the same issues who UNDERSTAND!/p

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