Outgrowing PA?

Posted on: Tue, 08/23/2005 - 4:23am
ahensley's picture
Joined: 08/23/2005 - 09:00

My son was recently retested with RAST for PA and it came back 122. A year ago it was 350 and a year before that it was 1120. He will be three in Sept. The doc wants us to retest in another year with SPT and RAST. Just wondering- what age do children usually outgrow the PA if they are going to? I don't want to get my hopes up, but that would be such a huge blessing. We have another child with different special needs and at times I feel like I can't handle much more. (Only through GRACE of God have I survived) I see other people post numbers like <.35 and I don't understand the difference - out doc told us < 70 would be normal. Does anyone know if the number on the RAST is smaller there is a smaller reaction if exposed? We are flying in Oct and am nervous about his exposure on the flight. Thank you all so much ! I learned so much from this list, even though this is my first post.

Posted on: Wed, 06/25/2008 - 8:38am
MtnDoo's picture
Joined: 04/18/2008 - 07:42

I have been told that my dd *may* outgrow her pn allergy. She was 4 when it was diagnosed, has only had 1 reaction (vomiting, scratchy throat) despite many previous exposures. Her RAST #'s were low...so, if we are good about avoiding and not having another reaction, we were told that she has a better chance of being in the 20% of kids that do outgrow. I'm not holding my breath, but I am doing my best to keep her odds good.
All I can say with allergies...I did everything "right" and my dd still ended up with a food allergy. She nursed for over 2 years, started the right solids at the right times, etc... We eat a decent diet-avoid most processed things, eat lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, etc...not an "anti-inflammatory" diet, per se, but healthier than the Standard American Diet. I really think that her allergies are genetically based (we have no food allergies but do have seasonal & pet allergies). I have slight asthma (exercise induced, and it flares up around animals). My dad has terrible seasonal allergies, my MIL and BIL have asthma and seasonal allergies, DH has seasonal allergies. The odds were not in our favor!
Unfortunately, I don't think there's anything I can do differently to change things for us. I do think there is value in eating well, lots of antioxidants, etc... and maybe being healthy will help overall, in dealing with allergies, asthma & reactions. But I would in no way count on those things to reverse her pn allergy... I'd consider it dumb luck, if she outgrew.

Posted on: Wed, 06/25/2008 - 9:08am
Newallergymom's picture
Joined: 03/09/2008 - 15:23

JenniferT-what exactly comprises the anti-inflamatory diet...I am very interested in what you said.

Posted on: Wed, 06/25/2008 - 9:23am
JenniferT's picture
Joined: 06/24/2008 - 08:30

I think genetics do hold a key to the puzzle...I had cat allergy and seasonal allergies as a child but outgrew them both....no one else on either side of our families has ANY allergy...seasonal or food...so I'm at a loss..I too breastfed until 15 months, but never realized I shouldn't give her peanuts so early (15 months was when she had a reaction). I guess all I can do is keep her health good (which it is - she's never once needed an antibiotic and the only time she ever got "sick" was after receiving a vaccine (which is a whole OTHER topic of discussion) - and pray...;)

Posted on: Wed, 06/25/2008 - 9:32am
JenniferT's picture
Joined: 06/24/2008 - 08:30

Newallergy mom - sorry, just saw your post. I'm on my way to swim lessons but will post more on the anti-inflammatory diet when the kids go to bed tonight and I have some time ;)

Posted on: Wed, 06/25/2008 - 10:56am
Newallergymom's picture
Joined: 03/09/2008 - 15:23

sounds good JT

Posted on: Wed, 06/25/2008 - 1:39pm
JenniferT's picture
Joined: 06/24/2008 - 08:30

Ok, the paper I have I got from a Naturopathic Doctor - she's actually the one who recommended we eliminate gluten and dairy for dd's eczema and AMEN, it worked!
Basically the anti-inflammatory diet is not long-term, but it's recommended for people in a health crisis - herbalists will recommend this diet for cancer patients for instance. In our case, eczema is a health crisis caused by internal inflammation that is exhibiting itself in the form of a skin condition. There are many causes, for my dd we believe it's food.
Here are the foods to avoid while trying to help the body heal:
All animal milks
Commercial eggs (organic OK)
All wheat products
citrus fruits
peanuts/peanut butter
processed soy products
animal cheeses
fruit juices
any processed food
white flour
dried fruit
fried food
Now some of those items are allergens for people anyhow so they're already avoiding them. The only other thing I would add is artificial sweeteners - they raise the acidity in the body which causes inflammation. It also recommends steaming vegetables to improve the availability of the nutrients. It goes into much greater detail, but this is essentially the jist. We're not following it 100%, but pretty close. Mostly chicken and fish for our meat, steamed or raw vegetables, fruit, and rice products.

Posted on: Wed, 06/25/2008 - 2:52pm
cfkjc2's picture
Joined: 07/13/2007 - 09:00

okay, i am at lost, what do you eat? really, please give us an example of a meal plan for the day. i am very curious about this diet. thanks.

Posted on: Thu, 06/26/2008 - 5:41am
JenniferT's picture
Joined: 06/24/2008 - 08:30

hehehe ;) Lots of whole foods :)
Breakfast: Gluten Free/Casein Free granola, rice milk, fresh fruit, turkey sausage (not all on the same day, of course)
Lunches: Grilled Chicken or Turkey burger, the kids LOVE frozen peas, carrots, cucumber, fresh fruits like blueberries, apples, pears, nectarines, etc.
Snacks: fresh fruit or vegetables, rice cakes, rice crackers, pumpkin seeds
Dinner: grilled chicken or salmon, sauteed vegetables with any number of beans (garbanzos, black, aduki), edamame, whatever vegetables are in season we just throw on the grill with our meat. Our gas grill is in use every day ;)
We're still learning too - but I try my best to keep a wide variety of seasonal fruits and vegetables to keep things from getting too bland.

Posted on: Thu, 06/26/2008 - 7:01am
Jen224's picture
Joined: 05/22/2006 - 09:00

Very, very interesting--thank you for sharing, JT!
To just briefly add to your original question, I have NO idea what would "qualify" a person to get into that 20% outgrow group. A couple months ago I would have said strict peanut avoidance may not get you in that group, but NOT adhering to strict adherence would keep you out. However, that all changed when I recently heard that through a friend of a friend that a 10 year old just outgew his PA. I've spoken with this mom regarding our wildly different comfort zones a couple times--she had him eat at buffets (gasp!), from the bakery (double gasp!), eat 'may contains,' etc..... and he's had *several* reactions that needed Epi. Several. As in more than one. So while her comfort level was very loose and mine very tight, it appears that it worked for her son.
I guess my point is--I think you're doing the right thing, but I wouldn't plan on outgrowing. Apparently anything goes.

Posted on: Thu, 06/26/2008 - 7:44am
JenniferT's picture
Joined: 06/24/2008 - 08:30

Jen224 - that is really interesting...I just came across this article last night which makes me wonder even more about whether or not exposure helps or hinders....heck, I honestly don't even think the doctors know...:(

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