Quote:Originally posted by Corvallis Mom:
[b]I [i]soooooo[/i] agree with you, MB. I view cooking skills as being very akin to tying your own shoes... [/b]
have you noticed how many teenagers sulk around with their laces dragging, nowadays?
On top of wearing pants around their kneecaps, I'm thinking no one ever taught them how to put their clothes on. Maybe everyone walks around buck nekked in their homes....
Oh, and they are cutting their hair backwards. Bangs in the back, eyes covered. I keep waiting for one of them to trip over their own feet. It's like meeting "Cousin Itt".

Quote:Originally posted by Lam:
[b]Oh, and sewing... buttons, seams...[/b]
my mother taught me how to sew. I'd feel comfortable sewing my daughter's wedding dress. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Although, nitpicker and detail oriented freak I am, it would probably cost less to by one "off the rack". But that's not why I sew, when I do. Quote:[b]I know they also learn other things in the class that we didn't, like budgeting, etc...[/b]
My highschool offered something similiar: "Accounting". But obviously, I learned my "budgeting" skills at home. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img] The class never over-ruled it. I tend to indulge my family. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] I [i]love[/i] to indulge my family.
Quote:[b] That stuff would be nice for him to get (even though we're already doing that at home, too) - can never learn too much about $$, IMO.[/b]
No advice, but I'm teaching my children "Get a six to 12 month reserve in your savings. Then enjoy yourself."
Take that vacation, buy the home you love, a new car (gotta love warranties), indulge those you love. Get your love to be [i]an eye popping engagement ring[/i]. Buy *good* shoes. Hire someone before you try "do it yourself" if it is a [i]skilled labor[/i]. Make sure they are bonded and insured. Get the permit. Earn enough to pay cash. edit to add: [i]Always get a receipt, and the warranty....in writing.[/i]
Sooner or later, I'm guessing they'll find they will want to add more to that reserve, rather than spend it. Particularly if they pay in cash as the example we are sending them. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] Spending grows old, especially when it's on yourself, especially when it's in cash.
Quote:[b]As for the pants down around the knees... we don't really have that in our schools, that I've seen so far. Thank goodness. I don't know why more schools don't restrict that.
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Our Middle School does too. (Although I did take issue with how a one to one aide dressed earlier this year.) I'm referring to what I see out and about in general. I don't know what "rules" high school has. It *is* children older than fifth and sixth grade. Possibly Jr. High. It isn't what I've seen *inside* those schools yet, (haven't been inside), just what I see on the street or in stores. Might not even be children in my neighborhood schools. Probably isn't. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by MommaBear (edited March 04, 2007).]

Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b] (just addressing the idea in general, no one in particular)
What's this bit about Home Ec being such a big deal? Wait for middle school or later, to acquire food preparation and hunter gathering skills? C'mon!
The only reason I could see my boys taking "Home Ec" would be for girl watching.[/b]
Home ec is a required course here, so if he opted out he would be the only one.
Ds has also been cooking for years, but the more practice the better. Also DD has been cooking for years, but has broadened her horizons since taking the home-ec course. She also actually is learning stuff from the Home-ec teacher because, DD hs turned that age that her parents become really really stupid and can't teach her anything.
"Couldn't the same be said for just about everything taught in school? Any subject? Most of what my children learn is from home. . . including the 'core' classes."
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Quote:Originally posted by cynde:
[b] She also actually is learning stuff from the Home-ec teacher because, DD hs turned that age that her parents become really really stupid and can't teach her anything.
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I never turned that age. Couldn't understand people who did either. I was [i]in love[/i] with my parents. Still am, even when my mother (who has lived with hubby and I for over 10 years) is acting so totally 79. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] Now....you want to meet someone who knows everything, talk to someone who is 79.
But nope, my 11 year old, towering now at 5'9, probably more like 5'10, last shoe size 12 1/2 EE, smothers me in hugs and kisses whenever I stop in his Middle School of 1000+. Doesn't matter who's looking, it's like hugging a zealous St. Bernard, except he has a grin from ear to ear, and doesn't have a flask of whiskey hanging from his neck.
Anyone know what I'm talking about, or is it just me?
Anyway, I suspect, my hubby and I will always be welcomed with a big hug. He chose to do his year essay on "Why I love and admire my parents." [img]/peanut/boards/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif[/img]
I'm telling ya, the whole "My parents are stupid and I hate them" isn't comming. Maybe it's that "core" subject thing. Sure, maybe it's something he learned at home.

.... or the gene pool?
[i]Cuz at my house, oh boy, is it coming.[/i]
[i]....even if both parents have got terminal degrees... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img][/i]

Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
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But nope, my 11 year old, towering now at 5'9, probably more like 5'10, last shoe size 12 1/2 EE, smothers me in hugs and kisses whenever I stop in his Middle School of 1000+.
I'm telling ya, the whole "My parents are stupid and I hate them" isn't comming. Maybe it's that "core" subject thing. Sure, maybe it's something he learned at home.
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I hope for your sake your right, DD didn't start until recently, 15 now. She's never come right out and told me I'm stupid, it's the subtle eye rolling, and sighing. Also it could be the things she tells me I'm wrong or don't know anything about, and her teachers know more "because they are teachers".
Never said anything about her hating her parents, FWIW

Quote:Originally posted by Corvallis Mom:
[b].... or the gene pool?
[i]Cuz at my house, oh boy, is it coming.[/i]
[i]....even if both parents have got terminal degrees... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img][/i]
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I just keep telling myself it's a normal part of development, and separation.
In fact we were at the high school last week and the principal mentioned that he knows most kids "act" this way, but still really want (and need) parent involvement and guidance.

Quote:Originally posted by cynde:
[b] I hope for your sake your right, DD didn't start until recently, 15 now. [/b]
Quote:[b]I just keep telling myself it's a normal part of development, and separation. [/b]
Oh, Lord. When I was fifteen, I looked forward to coffee out at least every other day with my parents. We had a HUGE garden, and every afternoon mid to late summer my father mother and I would revel in the baskets of fresh cucumbers, peppers, and tomatoes.
We'd go door to door to the neighbors with five gallon buckets of veggies.
On the weekends, my father would drive up to North California with us to visit his family (all Greek) and on occassion, drop in St. Demetrios. (LOL. I can smell the incense as I type.) We'd stop at his brother or sister's and have homemade Greek goodies or cheese and olives.
My mother took me to movies, my father was home every afternoon at 2pm, and at the dinner table each evening. They took me with when they bought cars, furniture, and homes. My mom would bring me for lunch at any one of several "fancy" group of restaurants he was a head chef at. My first real job was waitstaff at the main restaurant. My father would fix me little baby filets for lunch. He was at one of the restaurants seven-days-a-week. My dad passed away a few years ago, he had lived with us as well the last years of his life. God, I miss my dad.
There's something not "normal" about that? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the opposite is "abnormal", just "normal" for apparently a significant number of the population. Just not me. Probably not my children either. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

We're there already. Sorta like the 'Terrible Twos' part deux. . . questioning and challenging everything. Mariah is 13.