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Posted on: Sun, 06/11/2000 - 3:07pm
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I've read some posts indicating that vegetable oil can include peanut oil. Is there anyone sure about this? We avoid peanut oil even though FAN indicates that peanut oil manufactured in the U.S. does not contain peanut protein. However, we've never avoided vegetable oil or natural flavors. Please let me know about vegetable oil, and where you've read or heard the information.
Thanks!

Posted on: Mon, 06/12/2000 - 12:58am
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How about glycerin - I understand it is derived from vegetable oil - can that be peanut oil?

Posted on: Mon, 06/12/2000 - 3:21am
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I'd like to know too..we have never avoided natural flavors or vegetable oil and been fine. Since peanut is not a vegetable, rather it is a legume, I would assume that they are not the same.

Posted on: Mon, 06/12/2000 - 5:14am
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Quote:Originally posted by mkruby:
[b]I'd like to know too..we have never avoided natural flavors or vegetable oil and been fine. Since peanut is not a vegetable, rather it is a legume, I would assume that they are not the same.[/b]
I e-mailed FAN for clarification--what I'm told is that vegetable oil can include peanut oil, but shouldn't include peanut protein--so it's safe. Natural flavors on the otherhand, can include peanut protein, so you should check with the manufacturer. So does that mean you check with the manufacturer with virutally every product on the market? And, do you check every time you use the product because manufactuering procedures can change?

Posted on: Mon, 06/12/2000 - 6:47am
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I remember doing a search on the web on glycerin ( they were making bubbles at school) and found out most was made with coconut oil.

Posted on: Mon, 06/12/2000 - 10:47am
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I do not recall which source I read (book, article, etc.) as I have spent hours and almost 6 years reading about p.a. but I do have it forever etched in my memory to avoid veg. oil (the source must be identified!). Logically, it makes sense as from personal experience I know people tend to use it interchangeably. For example, my best friend baked a birthday cake for her child in the wee hours of the a.m. Ran out of veg. oil so mixed peanut oil with the last bit of veg. oil she had so she wouldn't have to go to the store. Fortunately, I asked at the party for labels and the type of oil. I posted a note about a Pizza Hut that told us that they had used peanut oil spray when they ran out of veg. oil spray. For us it is simple, the source of the oil must be identified. Vague labels can result in death for my child. Companies tend to just label veg. oil because it makes it easy to change the source without the label (buy whatever is cheapest at the moment). I have a college degree but if you had asked me 6 years ago, I would have said p. oil was a type of veg. oil as there is no catagory for legume oil. I have also read "generally" speaking hot pressed peanut oil processed in the U.S. is considered safe because of the technique used in the manufact. process usually eliminates the protein but hot pressed oil made in other countries may not because the technique used is different and not as effective at removing the protein. As companies buy what is cheapest, you never know if the peanut oil in the product is imported or the type "hot or cold". Therefore, severely p.a. people should continue to avoid peanut oil. Look at the [url="http://www.aaaai.org"]www.aaaai.org[/url] "The Allergy Report" as this is probably discussed there.
Veg. oil and natural flavors, in my opinion, are like a loaded gun. I am surprised FAN would advise veg. oil as being safe simply from the stand point it is a vague label. Yes, we call companies when either is listed and only buy from companies that have proven to us to be p.a. aware. Grocery bill is higher but peace of mind is priceless!
Here are a "few" ingredients mentioned by FAN from How to Read A Label for peanuts: (Ever read the label on soda (especially grape or orange) They often use brominated veg. oil (what's the source??)
African, Chinese, Indonesian, Thai, and Vietnamese dishes,
baked goods (pastries, cookies, etc.), candy, chili, chocolate
(candies, candy bars), egg rolls, hydrolyzed plant protein,
hydrolyzed vegetable protein, marzipan, nougat
* Peanut protein hydrolyzate may be found in soft drinks or
in confections as a whipping agent!
For a more complete list, contact FAN. They have How to Read Labels on many food allergens.

Posted on: Mon, 06/12/2000 - 11:04am
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Generally speaking, when buying vegetable you want to ensure that it is 100% veg. oil.
Jeff,
in the Limestone City

Posted on: Mon, 06/12/2000 - 1:23pm
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[quote]I am surprised FAN would advise veg. oil as being safe simply from the stand point it is a vague label.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear--they did specify vegetable oil processed in the U.S.Because of the processing they said, even if it did include peanut oil, there wouldn't be any peanut protein.

Posted on: Tue, 06/13/2000 - 6:48am
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Our allergist says peanut oil is fine. I tend to worry about it because my son had a reaction to french fries a long time ago. My doctor insists it was a fluke because peanut oil does not contain the peanut protein. Since then my son has had french fries in peanut oil and has been fine. He is VERY allergic to peanuts though so I guess the doctor's right. Who knows for sure!

Posted on: Tue, 06/13/2000 - 12:36pm
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I asked this "oil" question in another thread recently with no responses, so here goes again:
could there be any chance of cross-contamination between oils? That is, could oils, such as olive oil or other "safe" vegetable oils be processed on the same manufacturing lines as nut oils? Olive oils, in particular, are often imported and are "cold-pressed" which made me wonder if peanut or other nut oils might be "cold-pressed" on the same machinery.
I'll try to call some of the companies next week, but thought maybe somebody could already have some info. or opinios about this.
Thanks!
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Posted on: Tue, 01/05/2010 - 4:46am
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No, sorry. We use Canola Harvest. I would like to find a safe olive oil though, if anyone knows of one.

Posted on: Tue, 01/05/2010 - 4:53am
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We have used Kroger and Crisco Brands safely. I know I have looked at a few others which were safe as well.

Posted on: Tue, 01/05/2010 - 5:33am
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Beyond a Peanut,
Does the Crisco company have dedicated lines for their products? I have seen the jumbo boxes of Crisco Peanut Oil at the stores and wondered about that. I have just steered clear but would be curious to know what information you've found out.

Posted on: Tue, 01/05/2010 - 5:42am
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I called their 800 number. They seem to be very conscientious of food allergens. They state that packaging will include information on the 8 major allergens if they believe they could be present in the product. To date we have not had any problems.

Posted on: Tue, 01/05/2010 - 5:43am
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Cool, thanks, I'll have to check it out. :)

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