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Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 12:20am
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Quote:Originally posted by California Mom:
[b]MommaBear, believe it or not, I read of a case (I think it was in New Jersey or New York) where a child was actually suspended from school because his parents took him off of his ADHD medication and refused to put him back on it. This was shocking and frightening to me. [/b]
Was it the school or the physician "recommending"? Were there "recommendations"?

Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 1:22am
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California Mom,
and "Anyone". [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
what are your thoughts on this link?
[url="http://www.healthinschools.org/ejournal/2003/june03_1.htm"]http://www.healthinschools.org/ejournal/2003/june03_1.htm[/url]
Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. I do not guarantee the accuracy, content, or currentness of the link in this post.

Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 2:06am
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My understanding of the NY/NJ case was that it was actually the school and not the physician who was recommending the medication.
That link was quite an eye opener. I would be infuriated if a school official presumed to know more than my child's doctor and myself about my child's need for medication. The bill makes a lot of sense. I am surprised that this issue must have been pervasive enough to require such a bill, at all.
Miriam

Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 4:25am
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Of course I saw this on a TV drama, so thus the caution smilie, but it was about a school requiring that a child be medicated for whatever difficulty he was having. He was either medicated or suspended from the school. (He then went on a killing spree due to the meds, however, as I say, it was a TV drama).
I have no doubt in my mind that this happens in schools in America. No doubt. Has there not been uproar in America about the over-use of Ritalin so that teachers have classes full of well behaved, non problematic children? And not recently.
I know a parent who did choose to medicate her child for ADHD, with, of course, a *proper* diagnosis and a physician's prescription, but she did not want the school to know that her child was medicated.
If behavioural problems/psychological disorders/etc. are going to be stimatized in society as badly as mental illness has been (or if these things are mental illnesses), then he**, I wouldn't label my child in the school system either.
I label Jesse PA in the school system because he could die and has to have something in place to provide relative safety for him.
I have reluctantly told my daughter's teacher about her diagnosis of Oppositional Defiant Disorder just as I have reluctantly told both teachers about any reason that my children's behaviour may or may not change in recent months. So that they're aware, but certainly not as aware as they would be if it was a physical (i.e., body not mind) thing.
And all this in the obesity thread! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 4:32am
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Sorry, Momma Bear, didn't see one of your questions. If a teacher recommended Ritalin for either of my children, I'd tell them to shove off. I mean it! I understand that they are dealing with my children more than I am sometimes, but no way in he** am I having a teacher tell me to medicate my child. No way, no how.
As I posted about in the ODD thread in Off Topic, I was trying a homeopathic alternative to medication for both of my children. We are also doing talk therapy, first session starts tomorrow. But I honestly believe that the root of my children's difficulties, if they even have any, stems from somewhere other than bio-chemical imbalances in their brain.
As California Mom and I have discussed repeatedly, and probably in the Anti-Depressant/Anti-Anxiety Meds thread in Living with PA, I believe in *situational* responses, i.e., *situational* depression. I have also recently seen a loved one suffer from actual clinical (very specifically defined with a list of symptoms) depression.
Do you know I would actually be horrified if a teacher suggested my child be medicated? Horrifed!
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Thu, 01/15/2004 - 1:59pm
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Cindy,
Ds's teacher for grade two suggested that we look into Ritalin. Dh's response was, "And when did YOU become a psychiatrist??" (exact words, you should've seen the teacher's face, lololol). After that the teacher made the last two months of school his "mission" to prove that our son had ADHD. It made us very, very angry. Our son does not have ADHD, and when I told the teacher that the findings of the psych-ed assessment were that our son was GIFTED, he said "well I always knew that he was a bit bright." I was very unimpressed.
Yep, my kid is exhausting and difficult at times. But I like him that way. I don't want him doped up on drugs, and nothing is going to convince me otherwise. It would only be a complete and total last resort, and then I wouldn't tell the school either.

Posted on: Thu, 01/15/2004 - 2:04pm
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Quote:Originally posted by KarenH:
[b]Cindy,
Ds's teacher for grade two suggested that we look into Ritalin. Dh's response was, "And when did YOU become a psychiatrist??" (exact words, you should've seen the teacher's face, lololol). After that the teacher made the last two months of school his "mission" to prove that our son had ADHD. It made us very, very angry. Our son does not have ADHD, and when I told the teacher that the findings of the psych-ed assessment were that our son was GIFTED, he said "well I always knew that he was a bit bright." I was very unimpressed.
[/b]
what are your thoughts on this link?
[url="http://www.healthinschools.org/ejournal/2003/june03_1.htm"]http://www.healthinschools.org/ejournal/2003/june03_1.htm[/url]
Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. I do not guarantee the accuracy, content, or currentness of the link in this post.

Posted on: Fri, 01/16/2004 - 12:47am
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Interesting MommaBear!!
Ya gotta love this site
Synthia [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 01/16/2004 - 1:54am
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Quote:Originally posted by synthia:
[b]Interesting MommaBear!!
[/b]
I. thought. so. too.
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I gotta ask myself, completely hypothetically speaking, and merely wondering outloud:
#1 Is this a "Scope of Practice" issue?
#2 Is this a "Standard of Care" issue?
#3 If an entity such as a school desires the ability to make particular recommendations/participate in a particular manner/have certain input would a school authorized to [i]assume[/i] particular responsibility in a ............... need particular representation by approved, authorized appropriate credential(s)? ie: that have a set "Scope of Practice" or ability to provide a "Standard of Care"?
#4 How does an obesity thread relate to PA, [i]indeed[/i]. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Anyone??
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Posted on: Fri, 01/16/2004 - 8:20am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b] I. thought. so. too.
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I gotta ask myself[/b]
After asking youself,what are the answers to your questions?
(MommaBear)?
Love this site
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