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Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 3:12am
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Quote:Originally posted by mattchrismom:
[b]I keep thinking of the Simpsons episode where Homer gains weight so that he can work from home.
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Does this share any similarities with how PA/Food Allergies are sometimes portrayed on T.V.? Asthma? "Quirky Kids"?(read an excellent article in the Chicago Sun-Times on "Quirky Kids" recently.)

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 3:29am
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Quote:Originally posted by arachide:
[b] Shall we argue now that psychological conditions are medical conditions (I'm not saying they're not --now the one ducking for cover [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]). Definitions, definitions, definitions...
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[i]Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay?[/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
PS........Is this discussion beginning to resemble any trains of thought surrounding the [b]homeless[/b]? So many cans, so little time.
[i]Great.[/i] Now I've got the "Duck and Cover" song running amok in my head. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 3:32am
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Does feeling a person somehow "deserves" their "unfavorable" circumstances translate to a "lack of compassion/concern"?

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 3:54am
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Quote:Originally posted by momma2boys:
[b]Very timely article I just found.
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VERY. [i]Thank you for finding it.[/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 3:59am
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is "avoidance" and "education" and "preparedness" a form of "control" over one's condition? For example, PA?

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 4:02am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]Does feeling a person somehow "deserves" their "unfavorable" circumstances translate to a "lack of compassion/concern"?[/b]
I don't feel any good person deserves hardship. I do not lack compassion/concern for the obese (my father and my cousin are obese). It breaks my heart to see my dad huffing and puffing to simply get in and out of his car, for example, but the pies/ice cream/cakes he eats every night are his doing...
I strongly believe that the lack of personal accountability in our society is a serious problem.

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 4:13am
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Quote:Originally posted by mattchrismom:
[b] I keep thinking of the Simpsons episode where Homer gains weight so that he can work from home.
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Hmmmmm, beeeerrrrrr...........

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 4:23am
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Gotta say I agree mostly with Sandra Y's post regarding obesity. Obesity can be a disability if it prevents you from doing things that most people can do.
I didn't answer this post yesterday as I have been sick w/bronchitis and didn't have the energy to think too much. I do know that something struck me...and after reading some of Mommabear's posts I think it is this:
The argument of "they should just eat less and excercise more" etc...sounds a little similar to "if your child is allergic to peanuts just keep them away from the peanut products" (ie, as no other accomodations need to me made.)
Kelly

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 5:27am
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Quote:Originally posted by mattchrismom:
[b]I keep thinking of the Simpsons episode where Homer gains weight so that he can work from home.[/b]
That episode keeps popping into my head too. To paraphrase
[i]where's my "Tab"?
press any key
there is no anykey!
where's the anykey?!
who'd believe that Dad's butt actually prevented the release of toxic fumes[/i]
hehe
hmmm. now I'm going to have Simpsons episodes running through my head all day [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by erik (edited January 09, 2004).]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 6:06am
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Quote:Originally posted by kelly01:
[b]The argument of "they should just eat less and excercise more" etc...sounds a little similar to "if your child is allergic to peanuts just keep them away from the peanut products" (ie, as no other accomodations need to me made.)
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I don't knoew if that's comparable since there's no way to keep pa kids away from peanut products without a cooperative effort.
What accomodations could be requested for those who refuse to eat better and exercise?
Makes me think of the original question MB posed. What "reasonable accomodations" could be made if all obseity was defined as a disability?
Definitions again! What are we talking about when we say "accomodations"? ***I*** interpret it as meaning that I would have to alter something I usually do without thought in order to make an environment safer/easier/accessible to someone else who would otherwise be endangered/hampered/restricted from that environment if I didn't alter whatever it was.
Whew, that was a mouthful!
What would the person, disabled by obesity, require of me to change in order to accomodate them?

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