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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2004 - 11:59pm
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"overweight"
"obese"
"morbidly obese"
Different?
The Same?
Similiar?
Anyone?

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:00am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]
Different?
The Same?
Similiar?
[/b]
[i]A Spectrum?[/i]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:04am
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Quote:Originally posted by Sandra Y:
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And why am I up in the middle of the night arguing about obesity? Hmmm. I have no idea. Somehow it hit a nerve. Guess it reminds me of peanut allergy for some reason. [/b]
Interesting. The conversation is beginning to remind me of some of the comments persons have directed at my cubs. (As well as myself as a parent). And they are not "obese". Actually, what I'm speaking of is not in reference to food anywhoo. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:06am
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Quote:Originally posted by Sandra Y:
[b]Why would the cause of the medical condition even be a consideration when deciding whether a person is disabled. Who cares what caused it? The term "disability" is not a prize that is awarded to good people who suffer through no fault of their own. It just means the person's function is impaired.
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[i]Waaaaaaaaaaaait a minute.[/i] Does this mean I should be more concerned with the literal interpretation than the [i]baggage[/i]? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/cool.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:10am
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*Personally*? I live in a glass house. A fragile thing, but the [i]view[/i] is wonderful. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/cool.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:13am
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So................... [i]back to the visible thing[/i].
Are other human conditions as visible and open to scrutiny (and [i]comment[/i]) as "obesity"?

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:23am
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SandraY,
I checked out the "Editorials" section in the link and found in it two articles with the titles:
[b]"It's Your Fault"[/b]
and
[b]"Why Don't They Get It?"[/b]
[i]Interesting[/i]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:30am
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Quote:Originally posted by Sandra Y:
[b]Why would the cause of the medical condition even be a consideration when deciding whether a person is disabled. Who cares what caused it? The term "disability" is not a prize that is awarded to good people who suffer through no fault of their own. It just means the person's function is impaired.
Why would we say an obese person who overeats is not truly disabled? I mean, if she can't get down the stairs out of her house and hold a job, obviously she's disabled. Who cares how she got that way?
[/b]
Most people have to work in order to support themselves and their family. If you are truly overweight due ONLY to overeating should you be allowed to continue that course and collect disability? Never have to get a job? Or should you exercise, diet, and get a job? At the rate obesity is rising there will soon be a lot of people on disability.
I dont relate this form of obesity to peanut allergy, because you can bet your a@@ if there was a way to get rid of peanut allergy by the same means we would be doing it.
There are serious healthcare and insurance problems in our country and you are right, a lot of them are from paying for medical costs for problems people self inflict. Smoking, drug use, unsafe sex, drunk driving, etc. Everyone has to pay for those who abuse their bodies. I dont know what the answer is but obesity is rapidly rising into a major problem in this country.

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:34am
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Quote:Originally posted by Sandra Y:
[b]Why would the cause of the medical condition even be a consideration when deciding whether a person is disabled. [/b]
[i]elitism?[/i]

Posted on: Fri, 01/09/2004 - 12:43am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b] [i]elitism?[/i]
[/b]
How about [i]preventable[/i], [i]reversible[/i], [i]curable[/i]
I dont think im being elitist. Maybe realistic. I dont think I should have to work for a living, while someone else sits home getting paid disability because they [b]chose[/b] to overeat and not exercise and continue to do so. Yes its unfortunate. My son could go to work and be exposed to peanuts and die instantly. Will he ever have the option to sit home and collect disability? NO. Would I want him to? NO.
Still waiting for your opinion.

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