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Quote:Originally posted by Peg541:
[b]I think it would be easy for all of us to agree to not use words that others might find uncomfortable.
Peg[/b]
We could all make a pact. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]I guess I could mention AGAIN how hurtful I find terms like "Nurse from He!!" and "Evil Nurse", but I won't.[/b]
Name calling is different.
The reason the other term is so hurtful is that it represents the ones who tried to elminate all of the Jewish people from the planet by killing them all.Momma Bear, the word may not bother you, but it does bother others who lost their families.
If someone calls me "that stupid candy guy moron" that is different... just name calling.. not someone actually wanting to kill me and my family in a gas chamber.
If a word makes a member uncomfortable we should not use that word so that we are being respectful to that member.
As for name calling, if it is necessary, that should go in the "rudeness thread" I created in off-topic so no one else has to read it.
My opinion.
I really appreciate all the people who are being so sensitive about this issue. It is gratifying to realize that the majority of posters [b]are[/b] sensitive. Steph, please don't feel the need to apologize. I swear I didn't notice you use it, and I honestly don't hold a grudge against anyone who used the term without thinking. Now that we [b]are[/b] thinking, though, it becomes different. Honestly, no hard feelings to Geoff, Steph, Cindy, or to Lisa, who started this thread in the first place. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Momma Bear, there's not much I can really say. I am grateful to Peg, Erik, and others who have been able to express themselves. I will try to let the issue drop for now. (Can't make any promises though!) [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Miriam
I, too, feel very uncomfortable with the use of the word nazi - it just doesn't feel right in any context except in reference to what it really stands for. My father was also a Holocaust survivor, and he was the only one in his family who made it through alive. My maternal grandparents made it out of Germany in the nick of time, and spend most of their lives working to help other survivors. I know that the use of the term wasn't intentionally meant to offend or hurt anybody. It's just a very loaded term for some of us, and it doesn't feel right in this context. I appreciate the discussion and the sensitivity of many of the posters here.
Erik,
You posted:
"The reason the other term is so hurtful is that it represents the ones who tried to elminate all of the Jewish people from the planet by killing them all.Momma Bear, the word may not bother you, but it does bother others who lost their families."
Oh. I must have failed to mention my father's parents died of starvation and exposure during the Nazi occupation of Greece. Let me know if this is the case. For me, it Nazi Germany does not represent a "Jewish only" issue. And it probably doesn't for many other persons. It is my reality. But still, I laughed at the Seinfeld episode. Am I the only person that found it funny? I can however [b] empathize [/b] with those who find the use of "Nazi" in conjunction with a word such as "soup" or "nut" objectionable. However, I am confused if I have to forfeit my own opinion of it's use in the process. I can refrain from its use out of respect for others, but my opinion will most likely remain the same. I am also confused if it is "ok" for others to hold what is essentially the same opinions, while I, myself am apparently not entitled to them. I also don't feel this issue is limited to this thread. JMHO.
MommaBear
*edit for typo
[This message has been edited by MommaBear (edited March 08, 2003).]
MommaBear Posted:
"I can however empathize with those who find the use of "Nazi" in conjunction with a word such as "soup" or "nut" objectionable."
I think most people are trying to point out that, yes, they do feel that this word is objectionable in any context... not just in conjunction with soup or nuts. If you can empathize with this then why try to pick a fight about it? I just don't understand this at all!
Valerie
cvrbt,
you posted,
"If you can empathize with this then why try to pick a fight about it? I just don't understand this at all!"
I wasn't picking a fight. I was defending being attacked. I held a similiar opinion to another poster. Please explain why I am being singled out? Actually, not only did I express my opinion politely, I offered information in the form of links to help point out that while I did have a certain opinion, my opinion was not held simply because I did not have reason to feel otherwise (ie: death of family). At this point, I really have to feel singled out. Can you relate?
MommaBear
Quote:Originally posted by Cam's Mom:
[b]Well, by most of your defininations I guess I'm considered a "nut nazi"...
Although I consider it being a loving and concerned parent trying to keep my child safe and reaction free. Although, I wouldn't go through someones house looking for peanut products, If I wasn't sure it was safe then he wouldn't stay.
Geez, of all the terms in this world, loving parent now = a nazi....[/b]
So how about "Peanut Pioneers"?
"Peanut Pinchers"
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