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Posted on: Fri, 01/31/2003 - 3:57am
LisaMcDowell's picture
Joined: 12/06/2002 - 09:00

Posting blind.
P.S.-As for the MA parents, I don't have any ill feelings toward them for not volunteering. I have never seen and I do not know anything about their situation.
Last year, I had a father who wanted his daughter to join GS. After he spoke to his wife the answer came back as a "no", he said I would have to talk to his wife. I came to find out that she suffers from agoraphobia stemming from a car accident. I talked to her through the window, never catching a good look at her; the end result was that she preferred that her daughter be in the safety of their own home after school.

Posted on: Fri, 01/31/2003 - 4:30am
Jana R's picture
Joined: 02/09/1999 - 09:00

Lisa - I'm sorry your son and his family went through all that (was that just recently?). I'm glad you were able to be there with your motherly wisdom and model for them how to handle such a situation.

Posted on: Fri, 01/31/2003 - 4:58am
steveandleslea's picture
Joined: 10/11/2002 - 09:00

To the person who asked what alerting the media to the problem of child abuse by teachers will achieve, how about this?
It can raise awareness to the problem of abuse by teachers against children.
It can alert the community that peanut allergy is a life-threatening illness.
It can rally support between other parents of children who have been mistreated by this particular teacher.
It can empower other parents to speak out and do what is right for their own kids.
...and many other positive affects!
Additionally, once someone has been exposed as a child abuser, if he/she *does* become more aggressive, guess what? People will already be watching!
I don't give a flip about rocking the boat--if someone abuses my child, they had better be prepared to speak to the police about it. And once the police are involved, that becomes a matter of public record...a public record that I am going to email/fax to anyone who might take an interest.
It takes a lot of cooperation to combat abuse. Cowering behind the fear of "if I say something, it might make it worse for my child" is ridiculous. That's like telling a rape victim not to testify because the rapist might come back and "get her" again. It's just enabling the abuser.
The principal has let Jesse down in this situation, and it is disgustingly unfair that Cindy has to battle this monster all on her own.
Personally, I would have yanked my kid from this school altogether after the first reaction, but that's my personal comfort level. I'm also the homeschool type, so I appreciate that Cindy & others are going to take a different approach.
I'm just more than a little bit baffled that someone could actually see a negative affect by publicly exposing a child abusing teacher like this wacko by going to the media. This is the reason "the news" exists. It's not just to tell you to take cover when there's a deadly tornado headed your way. It's also to tell you to steer clear of human disasters like this freak, who should not be allowed around children!
It's not as if Cindy or Jesse have asked for much. As we all know, it is not *that* hard to keep peanuts away from a kid.
I mean, if the issue were cigarettes & smoking, we'd have full cooperation here! Everyone knows cigarettes & smoking are bad for kids. But because this issue is food-related, it's one messed-up issue, indeed.
It makes me sick that Jesse is being treated this way. Truly.
Cindy, I know you are a good mom and I support you, no matter what you have to do to work this out. None of us have to walk in your shoes, thank God, but I know if the time comes when we each face equally tough situations, you will lend an equally understanding ear. Thank God for that.
Another tidbit for the person who asked about the media...since Dec. 10th when my son's PA-related story was published in our regional paper, I have received an overwhelming amount of support and concern from our community of over 1 million people. I have heard from other PA moms, doctors, etc. from around the country. People do care, and you had better bet this has put a buzz in the ear of daycare workers, school workers, etc. It's *news*. It interests people.
As long as it helps keep my kid safe, that's all I care about.

Posted on: Sat, 02/01/2003 - 10:55am
KarenH's picture
Joined: 09/21/2002 - 09:00

Gee, we should start a field trip thread. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
I don't have a PA child-I'm the PA one. But his teacher has done something about a field trip that has made myself and dh livid.
First of all, it's grade 1/2. In Sept. the teacher mentioned something about an overnight trip to a city 3 hours away. It was very vague though, and I had forgotten about it. Part of me didn't really believe that he'd do it.
Well. He TOLD the kids that he wants to take them, what they would do, how much fun they would have, but that they could only go if the parents support it.
Parents supporting it would mean parents going on the field trip with them (and taking two days off of work) and likely parents forking out a minimum (and I'm guessing here) of $50. There are huge cutbacks in education, I can't see there being much funding for a bus for that far away. So the grand total for me to go along with my child would be at least $300. (including the lost wages for me for missing work)
I am angry. Had I known about this trip at the beginning of the year, we could have fund raised for it, or at least saved. My family simply does not have the money. Period. Secondly, it makes me angry that he told the kids. It puts me in the position of the "bad guy", in having to tell my child that we can't go because we can't afford it. These kids are only 6 and 7 years old. They don't need an overnight trip at this age, they have plenty of years of school to do them (and most do in grades 5 and up). The third thing is that even if I had the money to send him without me, I'm not comfortable with that. I don't really like the idea of my son travelling all the way there on a bus, on the highway, staying in a strange school, with other parents there that I don't know. It's much like letting him sleep over at a stranger's house. No way.
DH is livid. He's ready to tell the teacher to go to he**. Our kid is totally disappointed, and we feel like it's a slap in the face for the people who are already struggling to make ends meet. I think it was very insensitive on the teacher's part.

Posted on: Sat, 02/01/2003 - 11:04am
joeybeth's picture
Joined: 09/01/2006 - 09:00

oh my gosh...an overnight trip is excessive...and especially at that age. i wouldn't even think it was appropriate later. field trips, in my opinion, should be such that everyone can safely go, everyone can easily afford to go, etc..
even with PA not taken into consideration, this field trip doesn't sound like a good idea to me. also; the teacher should not have mentioned it to the kids, getting their hopes up, without getting a general idea of how well the idea would be recieved by parents. i would bet that several other parents are not in favor of it either. joey

Posted on: Sat, 02/01/2003 - 12:51pm
doreen's picture
Joined: 06/23/2001 - 09:00

Sorry to come in so late on this, but wanted to send my best wishes. My feeling is you interpreted the principal's letter correctly. It wasn't very specific, and I wouldn't have known any other way to take it especially given Jesse's prior reaction and the teacher's general lack of concern. If you had more time, then you might have been able to take a different tone initially, but it sounds like you've done everything right. I don't have a child in school yet, and the whole situation makes me consider home-schooling. Anyway, I'm glad you told them you were considering legal action. If that doesn't work, then you could try the media. Of course if you do that, then the media might just get involved anyway. Best wishes, hope Jesse's better.
Take care,

Posted on: Sat, 02/01/2003 - 2:37pm
KarenH's picture
Joined: 09/21/2002 - 09:00

What makes it so horribly hard though was seeing my son's face at dinner. He picked at his food, looked down and sighed "well, I didn't really want to go anyway." It's so obvious that he does. And for me, who would go in a heartbeat if we could afford it, it just breaks my heart. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
Life just isn't fair, and I can handle it-but I really resent being put in that position.

Posted on: Sat, 02/01/2003 - 11:25pm
river's picture
Joined: 07/15/1999 - 09:00

KarenH, if you live in Ontario isn't the school obliged to pay for any school trips when the parent cannot pay? I'm not sure about this but Cindy may know more.
I also agree that an overnight field trip with grade 1 and 2 children is not appropriate.

Posted on: Sat, 02/01/2003 - 11:54pm
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

would that entail a "means test"?

Posted on: Sun, 02/02/2003 - 4:06am
LisaMcDowell's picture
Joined: 12/06/2002 - 09:00

Posting blind.
Refer to this website's links:
Go to "Peanut Allergy, where do we stand", next to "School readiness for children w/food allergies" next click to "School guidelines for managing students w/food allergies" refer to second dot under Family Responsibility. Next go to "Getting involved at your child's school". These resources may be helpful for the next off-site school activities, etc.
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