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Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 5:59am
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Hi Cindy,
This is in reply to your e-mail.
My interpretation of the e-mail from the principal is that including Mrs. M, they are both afraid that they will make a mistake with your child's care because neither of them know how you handle public situations where peanuts are present, and they are asking you to advise them.
There are two possibilities regarding the skating rink:
1.) They may have called the skating rink prior to going & found that they did not sell peanuts.
2.) Upon going there realized that there were peanuts &/or peanut candy & as a future reference thought it best to contact you prior to another outing for advice.
As for a school staff, they are made aware of only the fundamentals of PA that they would then use in a classroom, etc. Communication in regards to asking appropriate questions to the those outside their controlled environment I would hardly think is taught. I believe every PA parent develops it on their own. Their need & usage is limited to their work place; our usage & need to learn beyond the fundamentals is greater because we have a PA child. Therefore, I believe that as we learn we also teach our child's school staff.

Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 6:24am
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Deep breath, Cindy, deep breath.

Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 6:28am
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I forgot to mention that it appears that they are also checking your comfort level. You can either go check out the bowling alley for yourself to determine if you think your child will be okay with just them or whether you would feel more comfortable volunteering to go.

Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 7:21am
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sport, thank-you! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Your post really meant a lot to me. I know that you became a member this year and this year is the year I've been having the difficulty with Jesse's teacher.
But please let me tell you that I feel we have been absolutely blessed with wonderful teachers, caring individuals who took the time, for the previous three years. I won't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch in my way of thinking about teachers. Seriously. Now, had it been Jesse's first year of school and this was happening, it would probably be enough to scare one away from the school system, but it isn't, it's his fourth and he has had wonderful teachers to-date. Again, thank-you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
nuconnexions, I was thinking throughout the day what instances whereby a PA parent could come under scrutiny for an anaphylactic reaction by Children's Aid (or Child and Family Services or other names in the U.S.).
I think you hit a particularly sore spot with me there because I have unknowingly taken Jesse to the circus (not unknowingly taken him to the circus but didn't realize the risk involved - yes, call me stupid). But how many of us don't simply live and learn here?
To think that we are not allowed to make a mistake along the way without having some higher Fascist authority step in to tell us even more so that we screwed up is ludicrous.
I was thinking about situations whereby a PA parent would need to be scrutinized by Children's Aid. They're not much different than a non-PA parent that would need such scrutinizing. If I was drunk, in a peanut filled bar with my PA son and unable to administer his Epi-pen (but then, you can't take children into bars here anymore). If I had peanuts throughout my home, I mean all over the floors, etc. but how would Children's Aid know about that unless someone (that all well intentioned neighbour) called them?
The only situation I can think of where a PA parent would have to be concerned about Children's Aid becoming involved in their lives because their child had an anaphylactic reaction is if the PA parent FED the peanut product to the child. This is not a *normal* PA parent. This is not one of the members here. That was the only situation I could think about whereby a PA child having an anaphylactic reaction would require Children's Aid intervention. I am serious.
A bowling alley may be considered "high risk" to you and off limits to your PA child. That is your comfort zone and Steve, I never question the rights to one's own comfort zone. But to suggest that someone who has a comfort zone not as tight as yours leaves themselves open to Fascist scrutinization, I'm sorry. That was way out of line, IMHO.
We are all on a journey here. We all make mistakes and we all learn along the way. We certainly don't need a Children's Aid worker to take us by the hand and lead us on our journey re PA. We know more about PA than a B.S.W. (or do you have to have an M.S.W to work with Children's Aid nowadays?) could ever know? I don't need a social worker to help me on my PA journey. I need other PA parents who yes, will tell me that perhaps going to the circus isn't okay, but then again, perhaps it is, here's a different way to do it.....
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 7:24am
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Sorry, I missed the whole second page before I responded and I don't have time to respond *properly* to anyone on the second page right now after the post I just made. I'm sorry [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
Many thanks and best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 8:49am
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Yes.. nothing much to watch on tv with President Bush on so many channels. And I didn't plan to watch that. I'd rather watch the weather channel.
p.s. I hope Jesse is feeling better today [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 9:35am
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Cindy,
f a s c i s t ..............
Don't ya just love saying that word??
If Children's Aid (or whatever they are called) (DCFS is probably the equivallent here, and oh, BRAVO (dripping with sarcasm), what a fine job they do..............
well...........IF they were to stick their nose in any doors regarding "child abuse" and PA, I would suggest starting in the schools. PLEASE PLEASE DO!
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHS ;Z9ZZZZZZZZZZ(DROOLING AT THE LIP, COFFEE, SNOT, AND OTHER INDESCRIBABLES COMMING OUT OF MY NOSE)
..............(i crack myself up---------wait! can I count that as a hobby too???)
MommaBear
[This message has been edited by MommaBear (edited January 29, 2003).]

Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 9:37am
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Cindy,
PS......................
skating rink????

Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 9:55am
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Hi California Mom,
I returned only to respond by invitation to a personal e-mail from Cindy to me that said she valued any PA parent's opinion, and if there was another way she could look at the situation.
Hi Cindy,
I've been very busy w/my project that I haven't read the entire thread just what has been posted below mine. I just read Erik's posting. I am truly sorry to hear that Jesse has had a reaction...OMG do I know the feeling! My son and his family were living w/us a couple of months ago when my MA granddaughter had a severe reaction followed by another 20 minutes after the Epi-pen was administered where she lost consciousness at the hospital. We hadn't experienced anaphlaxis since my PA daughter was about 2.
Stay safe!

Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2003 - 10:50am
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Lisa,
Fortunately Jesse did not have another reaction yesterday.. Cindy believes it is the stomach flu. But that's no fun either (although it is better than another reaction to PA).
I hope Jesse is feeling better today... this time of year with our cold weather it is unfortunate that there are many viruses going around.
Let's hope the groundhog gives us an early spring next week [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

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