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Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 12:28am
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Lilmansmom, I do believe it was my daughter trying to figure out why another PA child could have something her PA brother is not allowed to have, and then, by extension, she cannot have.
I didn't even know they had frozen pbj sandwiches. Gross me out (coming from someone who has hated pb since they were 4 years old, not a PA parent)!
I'll probably try to talk to her a bit more about this and see if what she is wanting is to try a tree nut product.
If that's what the deal is, then I may have to re-look my comfort zone, have a discussion with her Father, etc.
The previous two years, for JK and SK, she didn't have a "peanut free" classroom and I'm sure that there were other childing eating peanut products around her, but she never said anything to me about not being able to eat what the other kids ate. But, with that, since it was JK and SK, she was only going part-time.
Now, she is in Grade 1 and I have to say I was quite pleased when I found out that she was in a "peanut free" classroom, only because really all of our family do eat as though we all have the allergy.
As I spoke about here last year and probably even in this thread, certainly when my daughter and I are out and about she will eat something or go into a coffee shop or someplace with me that I would never take her PA brother into. But again, still not eating peanuts or tree nuts.
I'll have to talk to her. I had something similar, I guess, happen when she was in JK.
I didn't want her eating peanut products or even "may contains". Ember actually had her own safe treat box in the classroom for when someone brought in cupcakes that we didn't know were completely PA safe.
Then, I realized it was making her feel different and uncomfortable because she is not PA. I loosened up that. She was allowed to eat at school different "may contain" products that she would not eat at home or that her brother is not able to eat.
But still, speaking with her teacher, extremely clear that she is not to eat peanut products.
I must have raised a sibling question here before about whether siblings eat peanut products or not.
I'll have a talk with Em and if she wants to try tree nuts, well, I'll have to think about that part of my comfort zone.
Thank-you for your post. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 12:39am
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"... didn't know to say almonds because she's never had an almond. But I knew which ones she meant because I had eaten them.
So, in actuality, they are "safe" for my non-PA daughter to eat, except that I don't let her eat peanuts or tree nuts."
Just trying to clarify...cause I might be reading this wrong:
Do you sometimes eat tree nuts? I guess I am wondering if that is where DD is confused?
Kelly
P.S. For the record, I allow my non-Pa boys to eat anything they want (do not buy peanut products for the house) when they are either away from the house, OR someone gives them something (ie, halloween candy, etc). In our case we use it as a learning tool, as we make sure they clean up properly (and my son w/PA witnesses proper disposal of the item, cleaning of the area, etc). Not saying that you should do this, just adding this info to the thread.

Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 12:49am
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Nothing related to peanuts:
Ian Dury died <4> years ago??? Good god. I thought it was only a couple...
When I heard it, I knew right away who he was... One hit wonders. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Jason

Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 12:56am
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kelly01, yes, in that particular instance (something to do with chocolate), I did eat the Hershey's Almond Kisses. However, I did not eat them in front of the children. That would be the first time that I have consumed anything with a tree nut in it since two summers ago this coming summer.
I was working at the antique warehouse and Allan came in with something he had gotten at a bake sale/garage sale. It's a common bake sale item, with walnuts in it, damned if I can remember the name. Anyway, I had one square of whatever it was. It was delicious. But I just didn't feel okay about it. I did make sure that I had washed my hands and brushed my teeth before I went home.
Again, my son is not TNA.
I appreciate your post. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Jason, yes, four years ago. Yes, one hit wonder. But here's what I can't figure out, how can they be touring this summer as Ian Dury and The Blockheads? Is there a clone? Is he revived from the dead?
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 1:26am
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Cindy, my non PA son eats may contains, usually not at home. Our home is peanut free. I used to let him eat p.butter,but got too nervous having it in the house. You know what though? We were at a restaurant and they give the kids a free cookie, and my pa ds knew he couldn't have one, and when they asked my non pa ds he said "no, if ***** can't have it, I don't want it."
I thought that was really sweet, that he wouldn't eat something his little brother couldn't.
Is there any chance the pa student in Embers class thought they were plain Hershey kisses which are safe?
Chances are...she just felt like giving you a hard time [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] .

Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 1:37am
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Ian Dury was frozen at the cryogenics lab in AZ that has Ted Williams head.
They heated up Ian, back to normal, all clean and sober. Thats how he's touring now.
How else do you think Iggy Pop is touring! (or Morrissey for you Brits)
Jason

Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 1:57am
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Iggy Pop looks like he should be dead, so that makes sense to me! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] (And that's who I was thinking of when Cindy said Ian Dury, so when she said he died I thought, No! I just saw his picture in a magazine somewhere!)
Now, as to the real purpose of this thread. I think you're handling things just fine with Ember. It's an extension of "why can't I do what the other kids are doing" but since you have PA thrown into the mix, it seems like a different problem. But as AnnaMarie said, it's really the same thing. You have your rules for your family, and other families have their rules, and [i]your[/i] rules are what count. So emphasizing that is the best thing you can do.
I laughed a bit when I read your first post, not laughing at your situation but because I can totally see my willful younger daughter doing the exact same thing in a few years. Right now (age 3) she has started saying that she is allergic to peanuts and that's why she can't have them. I never lie to her and I always correct her to say that she isn't allergic but none of us in our family eat peanuts because they could make her sister very sick. And then she usually disagrees with me and says that she is so allergic.
But in a few years I'm sure I'll be getting the "but why can't I" whine, just like you are. It does make it a lot harder when your reason for not eating tree nuts is because Jesse is allergic to peanuts, but she sees another child allergic to peanuts eating them. She's just old enough to question the unfairness, but not yet old enough to understand the complexities of why you have the rule you do.
So, just keep doing what you're doing.

Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 2:00am
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cindy-
thanks for clarifying...when I originally read your post I took it to mean that you ate the same almond kisses that Ember couldn't eat (like she brought them home).
Kelly

Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 3:40am
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How dare anyone say anything against Iggy? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
I LOVE the man! He even cleaned up well (looks wise) for the Blah Blah Blah album (yes, I am old and so is that album for that matter). I absolutely LOVE Iggy!
Morrissey, I don't know. I had never heard of any substance abuse problems with him as I had heard about with Iggy. But the last I heard, he was clean and sober (which *may* be the same as saying that The Toxic Twins, Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith are clean and sober). Also, interesting enough, since Alice Cooper came to Canada to present a Juno (our music awards), he has been clean and sober for almost twenty years. Man looks like a walking skeleton to me, but whatever.
But Iggy, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
And back to regularly scheduled thread..... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
kelly01, I actually did eat the kisses that both Jesse and Ember had brought home. They simply thought that they had gone in the garbage.
I spoke with Ember to-day after school since we had a little bit of walking to do. I asked her if she asked me about B eating the tree nut stuff in her class because her brother isn't allowed to eat the same thing or did she ask me because she would like to try a tree nut product?
Well damned if I didn't get which answer?
She would like to try a tree nut product. Okay, her brother is not allergic. As I posted in this thread, both children tried tree nuts that were falling from the skies last year.
Jesse didn't like the conversation. He was waiting for his sister to say that she wanted to try peanuts also but she didn't.
I said okay, I'll have to think about it. You can try a tree nut product, but I'll want to have some precautions in place and I'll have to find what one I think is an okay one.
She was quite happy and even went on to say that should she be able to try one she'd wash her hands ten times!
My quandry would be is that I want my home to be peanut/tree nut free. It's a sense of security (oh, that false one, not [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] ) with Jesse. Knowing that he never has to worry when he comes home. Just as when we stayed at another PA.com member's home, he said that one of the best things about going to the family's house was, aside from meeting a great family, he knew that their home was peanut/tree nut free.
So, she's going to have to try it out of the house.
This whole discussion of comfort zones has me thinking again (not in this thread, the discussion I mean) about whether or not "may contain tree nuts" is something that we *could* have in the house. That Jesse *could* eat.
But if things are working and working well (IMHO), why change them?
I do think I have probably raised the question about what probable possibility there is that a "may contain tree nut product" has been cross-contaminated with a peanut product - i.e., if there are maybe traces of almonds in something, what is the likelihood that those traces of almonds were cross-contaminated by a peanut product? (I'll see later if I can find the thread).
I'll let Em try a tree nut product. When, I don't know. Maybe now that I've agreed, she'll let me be. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 5:00am
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Cindy---not trying to be ugly, but before you think you would drop dead for teachers not having work days, TRY IT YOURSELF!

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