NICK JR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am so upset that every time I watch Nick JR in the morning It shows FACE talking about the PEANUT sandwich he just ate and how it is sticking to his mouth. My son just look at the TV in AW! This company knows that alot of children watch this show. Can they not find something better for FACE to EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or is they are doing the eating part of a PEANUT sandwich could they at least throw something in about about allergies??????????? Sorry but I am Tired of it. Had to VENT! TINA

[This message has been edited by TDJEVA (edited March 29, 2001).]

On Mar 29, 2001

Yes, they could indeed use the opportunity of the PB sandwich to mention peanut allergy.

In my thread "Preschoolers show mentions PA", I described a segment on Treehouse TV (Canadian programming aimed at preschoolers) where Sharon, Lois and Bram (singing trio) were about to sing their song "Peanut Butter & Jelly".

The host of the segment (a clown) was about to make PB sandwiches that they could all eat after the the trio finished performing the song. She was demonstrating how to spread the PB and jelly on the bread, so kids at home could make a snack, too.

BUT - the clown actually said "WAIT! Is anyone allergic to peanuts?!" Everyone shook their head "No, not me." Then she looked at the camera and said "If you're allergic to peanuts, they can make you very, very sick, so you can just make a jelly sandwich."

I just about fell over, I was so impressed! I was watching with Cayley and we were both grinning from ear to ear! She was so pleased that "her" clown mentioned PA.

I sent an email to Treehouse TV on their website [url="http://www.treehousetv.com"]www.treehousetv.com[/url] lauding them for the mention, asking how it came about and what was the original air date, but I didn't hear back from them.

More kids shows should show the initiative Treehouse TV does - it was awesome!!

On Mar 29, 2001

I agree, I hate that part of the morning with Face. My kids love Nick Jr. but I feel this is unnecessary.

On the positive side - didn't I read here that Bob the Builder is PA? Perhaps we could ask Nick Jr. to use that show to better explain food allergies to our little ones since they've already opened that door.

This could be another topic for our ACTION thread.

On Mar 29, 2001

I don't want to start an argument here but I think face having PB is a good thing. It reminds my daughter that PB is out there and enjoyable to many people. When it comes on, my daughter just talks back to face with something like yeah well I don't eat PB.

It is important to our children to understand that PB is so revered in our society. Lord knows why ($$$$) but I think this a very non threatening way to remind her of the importance of explaining her allergy and being aware of what is around her. Sure, I would love it if every mention of PB was followed by an educational blurb but then what about the tree nuts, milk, egg, fish allergies? They are just as important.

I work hard to teach my daughter and her classmates that nuts and peanuts are not bad. I stress that they are bad for Rachel and they need to be careful if they have had those things and then come around her. However, I really don't believe face needs to stop talking about PB. After all, it is just a cartoon face.

Linda

P.S. Tina, I know sometimes things just get to me too and I need to vent also. I can see where on same days "face" could probably put me over the edge if it was a " bad PA " day. I don't want to downplay your feelings, I guess I just want to say try not to sweat the small stuff. I am glad you could come here to vent.

On Mar 29, 2001

Linda, We talk about similar things here when something w/peanuts or peanut butter comes on the t.v. I know there is a peanut butter song that is pretty popular (or was) on barney. And now there seems to be a LOT of peanut butter cereals, etc. Our talks seem to be working, a few months ago she was watching something where there was a commercial for Reeses Pieces cereal with the usual tag line "part of this nutritious breakfast" and my 5 year old dd blurted out "YUCK, not part of MY nutritions breakfast" OT, ever notice on most every cereral commercial, peanut butter or not, that when they say "part of this balanced" or "nutritional" breakfast they show a HUGE bowl of their cereal, along with a HUGE glass of OJ, a Huge glass of milk, toast, and a big muffin or some other type of food!@ It cracks me up!!!

On Mar 29, 2001

It just hit me the wrong way this morning. I was the one that posted about Bob the Builder on Nick. MY post is on this thread. I just think that sometimes the media can be a little more sympathy to Kids with food allergies. I have to admit I love PB and Jelly sandwiches but do not eat them anymore. I do think that they could have Face at least saying something about the allergy. But thanks for reply! Have a great day!

Tina [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

On Apr 1, 2001

Tina,

I think that is what is good about this site. If something hits you the wrong way, you have a place to come and vent about it. Also, I could never tell non PA people I don't think it is a big deal for face to talk about PB because they misinterpret my statements as PA not being a big deal.

Mom2two, it is so funny about all the other food put with the cereal to make it a balanced breakfast. If they took away the cereal, it would still be a balanced breakfast, probably even better for you!!!

Linda

On Apr 1, 2001

Tina, this is also something that given the right day, would have sent me into a tizzy. Since it does seem to be quite prevalent though in children's programming, what I have done is used this time to explain to my kids why Jesse can't have the peanut products they're eating on the TV screen. Of course, when I first heard pb, I was thinking, Oh, does he have to be watching that and hearing that? But then, I was able to turn it around so that I was able to educate BOTH children re PA.

It's like the night that I posted about Women's Magazine Recipes and how all of them had nuts in them. Sometimes something just strikes you the WRONG way immediately. I remember this past Christmas Jesse had wanted to watch a particular Christmas show, the Nutcracker or something (not the traditional one) and it turned out it was a bloody Peanut character. I was aghast, but Jesse wasn't, and he never knows when I am anyway.

Also, I think you did the absolute RIGHT thing and what I really believe is one of the many reasons for this website. If you see something that bothers you, you have every right to come in here and have your head explode! Do you know how many times I have done that? Do you know how many times that has saved my family from the stress I was experiencing because I have NO ONE else to share this with but other PA parents here on this website? This is the place to come, definitely!

Also, while we're talking about TV, I do think I've mentioned this a few times. When my children began to watch TV recently with commercials (i.e., not PBS or TVO, public television), I take the opportunity to point out peanut product chocolate bars etc. and let them know that these are unsafe.

I like how Rilira posted above about her daughter talking back to Face. I could see the same thing happening in my home. I think it's a slow progression but eventually these things don't bother us as much as they initially do. You learn to just let some things go.

Under Media, I have posted about The Sopranos and how they managed to have 3 peanut products blatantly shown in one episode. I have posted about Nash Bridges where a college student was killed with peanut oil added to his alcohol beverage. I'm trying to say that I consume enough TV to see enough peanut products on it and I have most certainly not been pleased.

Also, just last week, in the middle of the night actually, my DH called me into the living room. He was watching an old episode of Grace Under Fire. It turned out the woman that Russell (the pharmacist) had invited on a date had many environmental and other allergies. One of them was peanuts. They were at a restaurant and the woman had to inquire about whether anything had been cooked in peanut oil. Because of the litany of her allergies and the way she dealt with the waitress, this became quite a joke to both Russell and Grace. I only caught one little bit of it, recognized that I better not watch the rest because I was very angry and left the room.

I explained to DH later that although the portrayed the woman asking the waitress about the peanut oil in a comical way (for anyone except someone dealing with PA, I guess), that I know of an adult PA person on this board who was very concerned the first time he/she would have to go out in public with business colleagues and have to ask that question at a restaurant. I explained to him that he knows I hate ordering my food in a restaurant, etc. and yet I have to ask about peanut products when I go somewhere with Jesse. I also explained how I recently pointed this out to Jesse what I did after I did it (questioning the waitress) and telling him that he would need to do this when he was older and not with me. What I'm trying to say is the episode and it's depiction of an allergic individual was not funny to me at all. However, I simply walked away. Oh, and I did use the show to further educate my DH on the difficulties PA people face.

Cayley's Mom, that was wonderful what you saw on Sharon, Lois and Brahm. It's really too bad that you didn't get a reply back from them. That is absolutely amazing! Thanks for telling us about that, for sure.

Tina, depending on the age of your child watching Face in the morning (I'm fortunate I don't think I can see such a creature in my home - actually, I'm fortunate, Barney seems to have disappeared also! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] ) , you may like to start using what would appear to be Face's morning ritual as something that could help educate your child about pb and how he/she can NEVER have the product and why.

Last year, realizing that Jesse had never seen a jar of pb, I asked a girlfriend to please bring a jar over. She stayed quite a distance from Jesse but showed him the pb and took the lid off the jar so he could actually see what the product looked like.

Enough rambling. I had actually been made aware of this thread by another PA parent so I wanted to check it out. I didn't mean to babble on.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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On Apr 2, 2001

If I'm having a bad day, something like this could also get to me. Whenever face starts singing this song, Kevin always turns to me and tells me that he can't have that sandwich, but he can have butter and banana sandwiches!

He'll rework a recipe he finds (usually on the PBS program Zoom) and tell me how he can have it. DH tells me Kevin learned this from me. Whenever we find a recipe that he would like me to make, usually some kind of decorated cake, I talk to him about what can be substituted for the ingredients that he can't have.

There was a Disney children's program a couple of years ago called Katie and Orbie that did a whole segment on food allergies. A friend was coming over to have dinner and this little girl was allergic to eggs. They talked about the epi-pen, checking labels and how siblings that are not allergic feel. I was amazed how well it handled the subject and kept it both entertaining and informative for preschoolers. I don't know if this program is still running, has anyone els heard of it?

On Apr 11, 2001

My PA son came home singing a song about peanut butter and jelly in preschool. A very catchy tune. It disgusted me, but I know it's out there and he has to deal with it. I only hope they used it as an opportunity to discuss how it can make some children ill and they should wash their hands after eating it! I don't like the nick thing either or the PBJ&Otter show on Disney. However, Peanut butter is socialized in our society as a kids "favorite" and changing society's perception of our children and getting them to respect the boundaries (and lives) of our children is a difficult task indeed.

On Apr 11, 2001

Okay, I almost hesitate to write this ... but ... first, I think that it is great to have a place like this forum to vent. However, because other people read these threads, I just wanted to post that I have a different opinion. My 4 yr old is PA. I never had a problem with Face eating PB, he and his brothers love to sing the Peanut Butter and Jelly song, and one of his favorite shows on Disney is PB&J Otter. True, he cannot eat peanuts or peanut products ... but he understands that others can eat them and enjoy them. Yes, I hate the fact that he has this allergy, and that I have to educate and interogate everyone around him. But someone eating PB on TV does not affect us. Thanks for letting me post this viewpoint, and thanks for posting yours, I didn't realize others felt so strongly. Take care!

On Apr 12, 2001

As an adult with pa, I can honestly say that it doesn't now, nor did it ever bother me to see people eating pn or to hear them talk about it as though it was the best food ever! As with so many things, its the parents who are bothered and not the children (I can say that speaking as a mother too).

I know pb is more prevelant in US/Canada, but I still hear about it daily, and truly, it does not affect me. People often seem to take pity on me when I first tell them, all they can see is that I can't eat Snickers etc, but the truth is, you don't miss what you never had - that and knowing the outcome of eating pn is enough to put me off anyway!

So please, don't worry about songs or ads or whatever. This is something we have to live with daily, and as long as people are just singing, its really not harmful to us.

Gwen

On Apr 12, 2001

Thank you Gwen, for your reply. It really helps to get the perspective of an adult with PA!

On Apr 12, 2001

Gwen, I am also an adult PA/TNA person, and when people tell me they feel sorry for me, I can't really "get it." I don't miss anything with nuts. In fact, the thought of eating something with nuts actually makes me ill. I don't care what anyone else eats, but I do draw the line at being around anyone eating nuts. I get ill from the smell.

If it is a social event, I move away from them. If it is a business occasion and if the smell bothers me, I request that the nuts be removed. I live in a peanut free home.

Right now, there is a peanut butter egg in my garage for my husband, and he will eat it outside, and then brush his teeth and wash his hands. It's no big deal for him, either.

Interestingly enough, yesterday at my service club meeting, the server came to me and told me not to eat the dessert as it contained almond paste. I thanked her profusely, and then educated (again) all the women at my table about nut allergies.

WoozerMom

On Apr 12, 2001

Gwen, I think you made a really good point and you said it perfectly. I often find that different "little" things bother me. Then, if I add up enough little things my head is ready to explode. Or, have a little thing in there with a big thing and my head is ready to explode. And all the while, although my son wouldn't even know my head is ready to explode (I never let it show), he is so accepting and understanding. I do believe a lot of PA "things" bother us parents more than they bother our PA children. I have seen this time and time again with Jesse. Excellent point!

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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On Apr 17, 2001

Hi, just including the info here that I posted under the Bob the Builder heading. Please read that explanation of the show.

(Bob is NOT PA, it was another character that was on for a minute... not the positive message we were hoping for.)

On May 11, 2001

Okay, I'll admit it. When I first read this topic, I kind of rolled my eyes. Not Anymore!!!

My son's vocabulary has exploded in the past few months. He couldn't even say "mommy" and now he's begging for peanut butter!!! Guess why? That stupid FACE! Geeeez. Everyday at about 11 that stupid thing comes on the screen and talks about that peanut butter. Can't they have "face" eat a tuna sandwich or something? Talk about one-dimensional.

Anyway, I've never really talked to my son about peanut butter. He never asked, so I never explained. That, and I thought he was too young to understand. Now I have to say "peanut-butter BAD" or "peanuts-YUCKY." Of course, he thinks this is one terrific game. If I say something is bad, he'll say it's good, if I say it's night, he'll say it's day..you get the picture. I feel very fortunate that Joe is with me all day long, because I know if it was another person looking after him and he started begging for peanut butter, they'd probably think it was ok.

PHEW! Glad to get that out. Take care everyone. Jennifer

On May 12, 2001

HI L&Mojoe: I know you were probably just writing off the top of your head, but just in case I wanted to offer a suggestion of how I handled my children's interest in PB:

In stead of telling my son that "peanutbutter BAD" or "peanutbutter Yucky", I would tell him "peanutbutter makes you sick". I did this for 2 reasons, 1)when he got older and found that others liked Peanut Butter, I didn't want him confused, OR thinking I lied to him. 2)As he got older and could verbalize better, I wanted him to tell people that it made him sick, not that it was yucky (sick implies an allergy, Yucky just implies that he doesn't like it).

Just a thought.Take care!

On May 12, 2001

I am going to respond to this and I am in no way disagreeing with anyone. I just want to put a point of view I see in here. First of all my son is allergic,but out of all the kids in his school he is the only 0ne. Other than my son I only know of 2 other people and one is a grown up and the other is 9 years old. I think that the thing is is that our childrens allergy is very new to people that not many people have even heard of the allergy to nuts. My son watches FACE all the time. To tell you the truth the part of peanut butter is a great way for us to be sure and get a comment in and remind my little guy about the severity of the allergy. I always will hear FACE singing the song and Stephen has learned from that to say back at the t.v"Christopher will be very very sick if he gets sticky peanut butter". I think of that as my little guys reminder for the day. It doesn't bother Christopher that the FACE is on or that peanut butter is on the ads. He just tells me thank god i am not allergic to bees. I asked him one day why that comment,because we have bee allergies in my family. He said he would be afraid to sleep that a bee might sting him in the night. When your children are watching FACE just give a quick reminder"Chris can't have it"and keep on going. I know how tough it is but sometimes it bothers us moms more than the kids. take care claire

On May 12, 2001

Point taken Claire. But I still reserve the right to vent a little when I feel like it. Sometimes I'm just not in the mood to get tangled in the logistics of using america's obsession with peanuts as a learning tool for my son. I do that enough in my life outside of here.

On May 12, 2001

Cayley's Mom, this is slightly off-topic, but the other day when we were watching Treehouse, Sharon, Lois and Brahm were on singing their pb song with one of the "girls" from Treehouse. I was waiting and waiting for them to say something about the allergy to pb, but it didn't happen. I was SO disappointed.

I still have to contact TVO and thank them for the great food allergy mention in their Fun Food Frenzy show.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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On May 14, 2001

L&mojoe, I agree we all need to do a bit of venting and I appreciate it very much when I can vent someplace. Maybe if we all try and find the web site for Nick Jr. We could tell them our stories. Don't go into the website angry,but explain our stories nicely. Sometimes going in angry ticks them off and we can't be heard. Thank you L&mojoe for letting me talk here. claire

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