new with coffee questions

Posted on: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 12:50am
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Hi everyone, i'm new to the site, I'm 40 years old and have been TNA all my life, having several near death experiences. My question is about flavored coffee. I have inquired at Duncan Donuts and they assure me they have "removed" the nut protiens from their flavored coffee's yet i start to feel tingly in my nose and my throat gets thick whenever I smell flavored coffee's. I am wondering if anyone else experiences this? thanks.

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Posted on: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 1:42am
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Hi! I worked in the coffee industry and the majority of the flavors are artificial. This does not mean the protein has been removed! It was never there in the first place! So either they don't know what they are talking about or they are indeed using the real thing, in which case I wouldn't risk it. The tingling you exprience is concerning regardless of what they tell you...
Maybe if you do a search on Dunkin Donuts you can get some more info since I am not knowledgable about their coffee specifically. I will tell you most companies get their flavors of that sort from a flavor house...they don't make their own...and the ingredients are proprietary...as a result it can be very difficult to get information on the ingredients and processing methods beyond their requirements to satistfy US labeling laws.
Welcome! Luvmyboys

Posted on: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 2:40am
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Thanks so much for your reply, and i stay out of and away from duncan donuts and all coffee places...but it's always so hard to explain to people. They also told me that sometimes they use flavor shots, but in the northeast (where I'm from) they use flavored beans...lucky me. Thanks again for the info and welcome.

Posted on: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 7:56am
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I called Dunkin Donuts about their flavored coffees a few years ago and got very reassuring answers, basically saying that their hazelnut flavored beans and later their hazelnut and almond flavored shots were entirely artificially flavored (or at least nothing came from real nuts). They told me that they would never use real nuts in their coffees because too many people were allergic. Great.
Now, however, since they started selling those peanut butter cup cookies and putting allergy statements on their doors and everywhere else you look that all of their products may be contaminated with allergens, including peanuts, their story has sort-of changed. Basically, they told me that yes, ALL of their products now are may-contains for various allergens including nuts. Even coffee. Even ground coffee or beans sealed in vacuum-packed bags. No, nothing has changed in the manufacturing, packaging or transportation of their coffee products. But now everything has the potential to be cross-contaminated.
I asked if this was due to employees in the store possibly handling a peanut-butter cookie and then handling my coffee cup or something else, and they really didn't give me a good answer.
I found the call very frustrating, and since they couldn't give me any real answers, I think the entire thing is a new cover-your-backside policy they've adopted since they introduced the peanut butter cup cookies.
I think that the coffee is as safe as it ever was if you're willing to accept the possibility that an employee may serve a customer a PB cup cookie and then re-arrange the bags of coffee on the shelf or handle the outside of your coffee cup. For me, that's fine, but for other people, I can see why you'd be concerned.
If you're having a reaction to the flavored coffees, I think you should just stay away from them, even if logically and intellectually you know that there's no reason to be concerned. Why give yourself the stress, when there are lots of other coffee shops around?
--Debbie

Posted on: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 8:19am
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Hi...I do stay away from Duncan Donuts, the problem is they are everywhere! Almost every grocery store has them and when I travel I have to go several very long hours because every rest stop has them in it. So I just wondered if anyone else has had this problem. I got the major run around from them when I tried to get information from them a few years back about flavored coffees. They told me maybe I was allergic to something else in the store...however I had not had a problem with coffee's until they started serving flavored ones. Interesting too because I will start to get a tingly feeling in my nose, and my throat feels consrticted before I even know someone with coffee is near me, and so far everytime I have felt that way and asked what flavor, it's only the hazelnut or even the french vanilla. Weird but it makes you wonder. Thanks for the reply.

Posted on: Thu, 02/15/2007 - 10:23pm
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I go to starbucks and just get regular coffee or capucino as their flavored coffees do have nuts. I am PA/TNA. They told me to stay away from their flavored syrups, caramel, chocolate, etc. because they share the measuring cups for those with nut flavors. They also told me I can mention that I'm PA/TNA but I don't have to worry if I'm just ordering regular coffee.
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Posted on: Fri, 02/16/2007 - 2:58am
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I would not risk a flavored coffee for the world. You just never know. The site I order my flavored coffees from says they are not peanut/nut safe so my son does not drink it and I really don't get it any more.
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Posted on: Fri, 02/16/2007 - 3:08am
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I actually don't even drink the coffee, but the smell alone makes my throat and nose start to tingle. I've been told by FAAN that if there are nut protiens in the coffee beans you could go into an anaphalytic reaction if it is brewed, roasted, or ground near you. I can't even go into the mall because there is a duncan donuts at one end and borders at the other. I just wondered if anyone else felt the effects of being around coffee not even drinking it. (I too have called coffee companies and currently the only one that I know of that roasts and packages their beans in a seperate plant from their hazelnut versions...how's this for ironic...is Chock full of Nuts! My family and friends have all switched to this brand and i am ok around it, but the others start me itching and since I am so sensitive I get really nervous and leave, I haven't waited around to see if the reaction would worsen...thanks for the info!

Posted on: Fri, 02/16/2007 - 5:27am
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Newhope4life,
I have similar problems as you with the smell of certain coffees. And I get nervous too. I can't tell you how many places I've rushed through or left because of coffee smells. However, I have never had a full-blown reaction from such exposure. The most I have ever had to do was take Benadryl - and that may have been because I got myself worked up (nerves).
Hope this helps. Blessings,
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Terri in the USA
(Severe allergy to peanuts, walnuts, haddock, tuna and avoid all nuts and fish)

Posted on: Fri, 02/16/2007 - 7:23am
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In general, I'm not a fan of 'flavored coffees' (like vanilla, cinnamon, hazelnut, christmas spice, etc.) --- I like pure unadulterated coffee! I do enjoy 'tastings' between the different roasts/types of beans though...
I can't stand the smell of hazelnut coffee AT ALL. It doesn't make me sniffly or anything (like how I get with peanuts), but the smell is just atrocious...think of a really putrid smelling "old lady perfume" --- that's how I feel about it!
I never use public grinders like at grocery stores, and only buy coffee from places that don't have 'flavored beans' b/c the pots don't get cleaned very well in betwee, and there is also a 'contaminated grinder' problem.
Most higher end coffee shops don't have flavored beans, instead they use flavored syrups. Now, some of the flavored syrups have nut proteins (the almond at Starbucks for example, but not the toffeenut or hazelnut, those are chemical flavorings) --- but there isn't a high risk for cross-x since they use pourers into your personal coffee cup or push pumps.
When I visit home and stay at my sisters, I have my own coffee pot and grinder b/c she loves flavored coffees.
I don't drink D&D coffee anyway (I find it gross) --- but I've been spoiled in Tucson with a great coffee roaster (Raging Sage) with spectacular fresh roasted coffee [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] (once you go fresh roasted, you have a hard time drinking anything else) and I mean fresh-roasted...like a day or two before...
Adrienne [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Sun, 02/18/2007 - 5:05am
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I'm so glad to hear it happens to someone else. I too have not had a full blown reaction but I leave places the second I smell coffeee, I don't want to wait around to find out. Thanks everyone for all the helpful info!

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