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Posted on: Tue, 04/09/2002 - 10:22am
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I can't bear the thought of once again having to tell Patricia that she can't have a food she has been eating before because it is no longer safe. Poor kid. She is going to grow up hating corporate America and restaurants and bakeries, all because people in this country are so d*** obsessed with their stupid rights to eat peanuts in mass quantities.
Geez...if a food company suddenly decided to produce fertilizer or DDT or Cyanide on a line next to their regular food products, everyone would see that as a problem. Why is it not a concern when the food could be contaminated by peanuts or nuts that is known to kill small children and adults alike? Makes me sooooo angry! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 04/09/2002 - 2:31pm
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I spoke with a Nabisco rep today. I had previously emailed and got the canned letter they sent out so I decided to call too. The rep started reading the script they are given and I asked if I could please interupt her. I said that it sounded like she was just reading something to me and would she please just skip that and answer some of my questions. I asked if there were going to be dedicated lines and she said Nabisco routinely does not use dedicated lines. She stated that there would be a warning label on anything that could be a problem. I asked in what way they determined if a label would be put on and would it be labeled for cross contamination. She said that she did not know how they determined if a label would be put on and there was no one there who did. It was a very lengthy conversation and I basically do not know any more than I did when I called. She did say, though, that they had a special meeting about the PB Oreo situation this morning. So---apparently the emails and phone calls are being noticed. I would encourage everyone to keep calling and keep emailing and have everyone you know call and email! We are getting their attention if they are having special meetings about this.

Posted on: Tue, 04/09/2002 - 3:49pm
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Just sent my email. This is what I sent:
"I understand that your company will be making a peanut butter Oreo cookie. As a mother of a deathly peanut allergic child, I am pleading with you to run this new type of cookie on dedicated lines. The regular Oreo cookie is the only safe cookie my child can eat and I'm sure you would not want to lose a faithful customer because the two types of cookies are not run on dedicated lines. In fact, I am quite certain that you would lose MANY customers if you don't do this as there many parents of peanut allergic children who are not comfortable with companies "cleaning" in between runs. Please let me know what your process is with respect to the PB Oreos and the regular Oreos. Thank you for your consideration of this matter."
I'll post a response if I get one.

Posted on: Tue, 04/09/2002 - 3:50pm
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Whoops! Double post.
[This message has been edited by Suz-a-loo (edited April 10, 2002).]

Posted on: Tue, 04/09/2002 - 9:53pm
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Are regular Oreos run on their own line? I ask because everyone is calling them "the only safe cookie" - if they aren't run on a dedicated line, they aren't exactly safe either, are they? It seems from the answers given so far, that everything Nabisco makes is run on shared lines - that would include the regular Oreos, wouldn't it? (I know there is a thread around here about Oreos in particular, so I'll look for it. We don't eat Oreos much, although we have without a problem.)
We are all trying to figure out Nabisco's labeling procedure. It comes back to everyone's comfort zone with sanitizing, etc., but are we sending mixed messages about keeping the original Oreos "safe" if they're run on shared lines, and are, therefore, not really safe for some of us?
Going to find that thread,
Tammy
Edit: Found the thread. There was a great deal of confusion about the whole thing then, too. (Under Manufacturers/Food)
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Posted on: Tue, 04/09/2002 - 11:14pm
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Here is the response I got from Nabisco after sending an e-mail regarding keeping regular oreos "safe"
"Thanks for visiting our web site. We appreciate your interest in our
Nabisco products.
Nabisco products are not routinely produced on dedicated lines, and our
production schedules are subject to change. If a product is produced on
shared equipment, every reasonable precaution is taken to avoid contact with
the eight major allergens recognized by the FDA--wheat, soy, peanuts, tree
nuts, milk, eggs, fish, and shellfish.
Should cross contact with a food allergen in our production environment be
unavoidable, appropriate labeling of the food allergen is implemented. When
appropriate, allergen labeling is used in addition to, and not in place of
good manufacturing practices.
Please add our site, [url="http://www.Nabiscoworld.com/,"]http://www.Nabiscoworld.com/,[/url] to your bookmarks and
visit us again soon!"
Makes me think they were never and never will be safe.

Posted on: Wed, 04/10/2002 - 2:42am
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It seems that the USA Oreos are not made on dedicated nut-free lines so even if they decide not to make peanut butter Oreos, maybe they are still not safe.
I have heard that Christie in Toronto makes their Oreos and Fudgeos in a nut-free part of the Lakeshore Blvd factory - I will email them to find out for sure.
And Peak Frean cookies (made in East York I think?) should be fine also as I do not think they make any peanut cookies but I will need to email them too. Although I think they use another type of nut in the factory (not peanuts).

Posted on: Wed, 04/10/2002 - 11:05am
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Before this whole PB Oreo was announced I really trusted Nabisco. I always bought the Chips Ahoy (blue and the chocolate lovers brown bag). Now I'm not so sure. Dylan had a mystery reaction about 6 weeks ago, shortly after eating chips ahoy. No itchy mouth, just hives on his arms and chest. We really didn't know what it came from, figured it might not even be peanut related, now I'm not so sure. I hate to put another company on his "can't eat" list. Karen

Posted on: Wed, 04/10/2002 - 1:38pm
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erik, I had e-mailed Mr. Christie's on Lakeshore Blvd. West as well (well, through the [url="http://www.nabisco.ca"]www.nabisco.ca[/url] website) to confirm, if, in fact, there is a concrete barrier in the plant. This is what I have always been told.
However, since you live in Toronto, which I no longer do, how about you actually go there and find out for all of us Canadian Mr. Christie cookie buyers? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] I could give you good directions as I did grow up in the area and worked right across the street from the plant (no, not in one of the seedy motels [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img])
Someone else had mentioned in a separate thread re companies with their line about cleaning properly, dis-assembling equipment, etc. that they would actually like to schedule a tour of the plant. If I was in Toronto at this point, I would be checking out Christie's. Of course, I'm not saying that you should.
Curiously enough, while others have received responses to their e-mails to both Nabisco U.S. and Nabisco Canada, I'm still waiting for mine. I suspect they've been flooded and I'm really pleased about that!
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Wed, 04/10/2002 - 2:08pm
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Hi Cindy...
Yes.. I would like to tour the Christie plant in Etobicoke and the Peak Freans plant in East YOrk, as those are the two brands of cookies I usually eat.
I know where the Christie factory is [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] .. I see the Christie water tower when I am along the QEW by the Humber River. Actually, they are knocking down all those seedy motels and replacing them with luxury condomiums in that area so it looks quiet different these days.
I'll keep you updated .. ttyl [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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