National Peanut Tour Coming soon to a city near you!

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pWell I don't know what happened to the other thread on this but I am reposting it. It is long.br /
National Peanut Tour Spreads the Word on Peanutsbr /
NEW YORK, April 25, 2001/p

Posted on: Wed, 04/18/2001 - 1:55am
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I THINK PEANUTS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL, BANNED OR OUTLAWED. I KNOW ITS A MAJOR SOURCE OF INCOME FOR PEANUT FARMERS, BUT THIS PLAGUE CAN TAKE LIVES! PEANUTS ARE BANNED IN MY HOUSE!!!!!! TAKE CARE, STAY SAFE!

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Scared mom
I feel similar where PEANUTS are concerned. I forgot to write when I reposted that I was going to go when it came to my area with a sign that said Peanuts also can Kill.
christyn

Posted on: Wed, 04/18/2001 - 3:17am
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I certainly respect the right of others to have a different opinion...but I guess I am in the minority here on this board...I am fine with this. With the exception of pushing peanuts on pregnant women, I see nothing wrong with the peanut farmers,etc trying to publicize their product. Peanuts ARE a healthy food choice for many (millions) of people. I prefer to concentrate on the things that (again just my opinion) are reasonable and achievable, like labeling, no peanuts on airlines, peanut free zones in school,etc. Trying to tell the rest of the world that they shouldn't eat peanuts at all does not seem reasonable to me. Peanuts themselves do not kill, allergies do.
Just wanted to post another viewpoint. Thanks!

Posted on: Wed, 04/18/2001 - 3:26am
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I guess my post got lost along with the rest of the original thread. I am so FURIOUS with the March of Dimes for teaming up with the peanut people to push peanuts on pregnant women. That is so irresponsible, it is appalling!! As for the peanut tour itself, I think it's a little overboard. I've never seen a milk tour, or apple tour, though maybe they do exist. It's not as if there is a single person in this country who has never heard of peanutbutter. It's not like it's soybean butter or tofu or something regional like grits. Give me a break. Peanuts don't need publicity.
There was a part in the original article/announcement that mentioned something about allergy education. I wonder what that will be about. Maybe they should hand out a free epi with the free samples. Hope no one dies from this tour.

Posted on: Wed, 04/18/2001 - 3:52am
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Kelly01, A tour like this worries me because it makes the "achievable" goals (your's are the same as mine), so much more difficult to achieve since this high-impact marketing more than off-sets the "downside" of peanuts in the general public's mind. It can make non-pa folks even more resistant to peanut-free rooms, peanut-free flights. We won't can't far without the support of families who do not live with pa, a tour that promotes ONLY the health benefits and NONE of the potential risks will only make our "work" more difficult.
On the diappeared thread, I suggested that when use the list of venues to contact local newspapers, radio stations etc with the pa-point of view (prior to each local event). You can bet the Peanut Board is going to use local media to promote these events and have representatives interviewed at length about the health benefits of pn etc. We will need a "counter offensive" to ensure our message is not forgotten and that coverage is balanced.
Also there are only 25,000 peanut farmers and 3 million in the US with pa/tn allergy. THe difference is they are organized, have a common goal, and make a lot of noise!

Posted on: Wed, 04/18/2001 - 11:54am
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The more I think about this the more I think we need to tackle the March of Dimes (unless of course this pn-drive for pregnant women generates many moer pa kids then of course it will be more circumstantial evidence!).
Is the Peanut Board trying to get back the good image of pn?

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Here is the text from the corrupted thread. We will delete the corrupted thread and let this new one serve for this topic.
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posted April 17, 2001 04:38 PM
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This is long but I didn't know how to link it. Sorry! I feel like attending one of these with a giant peanuts can kill sign!
Christyn
National Peanut Tour Spreads the Word on Peanuts
NEW YORK, April 25, 2001

Posted on: Wed, 04/18/2001 - 10:51pm
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How can you people condemn an entire industry? It is unfortunate and sometimes very scary that we have to deal with this horrible allergy. The fact remains that for 98% of the population peanuts are a safe, nutritious, and quite tasty snack. Should people who are allergic to milk be up in arms over the "Got Milk?" campaign? I think not. Maybe you should focus your energy on things that can make a difference like education, better labeling, and finding a cure for this horrible allergy. Maybe one reason that we haven't been very successful in getting manufacturers and legislators to listen to us is that more and more of us are sounding like radical lunatics who want to ban or outlaw peanuts. Come on people, this isn't Nazi Germany. Should we avoid these types of promotions? Absolutely! But what gives you the right to condemn the peanut growers and people who love peanuts?

Posted on: Thu, 04/19/2001 - 1:14am
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stef92 - I don't think it's radical to expect the Peanut Board to at least acknowledge that peanut allergies exist! You would think that, with the amount of money they are spending to mount this campaign, they could come up with 1 or 2% of it, to spend on allergy education.
I remember coming across a slew of peanut butter recipes, put out by Kraft, in a newspaper supplement cookbook. In the midst of the recipes, was an fine educational blurb on peanut allergies - "Peanuts aren't great for everyone", or something to that effect. This, by a company who makes millions of dollars from PB! This doesn't harm sales!
Someone mentioned that the Peanut Board may have a promotion on PA? That is acceptable to me. It gives us "credibility" to have this major industry acknowledge that peanuts aren't "great" for everyone. If I didn't have a PA daughter, I would still be indulging in peanuts left and right, so surely including allergy education as part of their campaign, won't hurt the peanut sales!
You're right - it only affects the people who live with it - so the rest can have their peanuts, but the general public needs to be better educated about how harmful and FATAL peanuts are to us. Eileen is right when she says promotions like this are a step backward for us as we strive to better education the public. I mean, heck, why don't they just put a halo over Mr. Peanut's head and get it over with! Balance is key, here, not an outright ban (but, sheesh, this promotion does seem WAY over the top), but just... balance.

Posted on: Thu, 04/19/2001 - 1:37am
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I am pretty ambivalent for the most part about this except the March of Dimes connection. But the fact remains that there is no evidence that eating peanuts during pregnancy is what causes the first exposure or an allergy to peanuts. I of course always warn others not to do it but only because of a sort of "just in case" type thing.
I would think directing an email campaign at March or Dimes to alert them to this possibility would be pretty effective.
As for promoting peanuts in general, those people who are not allergic and have no affiliation with anyone who is allergic really have no reason to not eat peanuts or peanut products.
I think of all the products out there that kill and main so many of our children that are dangerous to everyone (alcohol comes to mind) that no one, except those who want to go back to prohibition times, tries to totally ban or make illegal.
Its hard when it affects us directly but I try to keep in mind that its a very small group that is really affected by this and to focus my energies that way (ie at the school level, local eateries, and just telling everyone about this in an informative way)

Posted on: Thu, 04/19/2001 - 9:06am
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Someone's probably already suggested this, but why don't we email the "National Peanut Board" and tell them about peanut allergies. Maybe they could talk about that at their peanut sampling...about the severity of food allergies, how many people have them, things like that. That way, they can educate people about the good and bad sides of peanuts (though personally, I don't really see a good side of peanuts).

Posted on: Thu, 04/19/2001 - 9:19am
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I think I was the one who mentioned something about the peanut board and pa awareness. This is from the original post:
The National Peanut Board is a research and promotions board that represents the USA

Posted on: Thu, 04/19/2001 - 12:50pm
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National Peanut Board plowing the field toward increased consumption.
by Cecil H. Yancy jr.
The National Peanut Board is a

Posted on: Thu, 04/19/2001 - 12:51pm
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Oops, double post
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Posted on: Thu, 04/19/2001 - 10:44pm
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Eileen:
Something in your post leaped out at me:
"...allergy kits for schools..."
OK. So they know some people are allergic. This is what bugs me about some of the non-PA public: they know that PA people have medication, so they think "no big deal - if there's a reaction, use the medication." It IS a big deal!! It terrifies me to even imagine my child STARTING to react... the immense FEAR he would feel!!! Yes, the medication is a God-send, but I'd really rather he NEVER have to use it.
Sorry, had to vent about that. This whole thing makes me so incredibly sad.
Oh, and the labeling issue... I'm a pessimist, I admit, so that will probably explain where this is coming from, but... I have a true fear that some day EVERY label is going to read "May Contain Peanuts" because they are everywhere already, and are going to be more than everywhere if the Peanut Board is successful with their "outreach" plan.
I am so sad. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 04/20/2001 - 2:51am
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While they are handing out their peanut samples at these events, I wonder if they will be warning families with a history of allergies that their babies and young children shouldn't eat peanuts. I assume they will have Epi Jr.s on hand for the inevitable emergencies when parents discover their child has a peanut allergy.
I really agree with people who say we shouldn't hurt our cause by appearing to be fanatics. I'm not a fanatic. I even have peanut products in my home. But this does seem to be over the top. And any discussion of peanuts should include a warning that it is the number one fatal food allergy. Maybe it hasn't been proved that peanuts are bad for pregnant and nursing mothers, but there's enough of a question that they certainly shouldn't be PROMOTED. One glass of wine won't hurt a pregnant woman either, but our society has no problem totally banning ALL alcohol comsumption by pregnant women. At least until more is known, it's probably a good idea for pregnant and nursing mothers to be cautious about peanut consumption.
I think it would be a great idea for FAAN to have an info booth at these events, and it would be more effective than protests. I don't see any benefit to protesting peanuts, but education about peanut allergy at a peanut event would be great.

Posted on: Mon, 04/23/2001 - 6:36am
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Lam, yes allergy kits indeed, anyone ever see an allergy kit sponsored by the Peanut Board?

Posted on: Tue, 04/24/2001 - 5:15am
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Stef92,
Earlier in the thread you answered your own question "Should people who are allergic to milk be up in arms over the "Got Milk?" campaign?" with "I think not."
Your answer made me think that you might not be aware of the strength of organized opposition to the "Got Milk?" campaign, as the following link will illustrate.
[url="http://library.northernlight.com/FB20010424720000165.html?cb=0&dx=1006&sc=0#doc"]http://library.northernlight.com/FB20010424720000165.html?cb=0&dx=1006&sc=0#doc[/url]
The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) is involved in this opposition and in 1999 were invloved in a "a successful lawsuit, to make dairy products optional in the federal food guidelines..."
They have also "..filed a petition with the Federal Trade Commission last year charging the milk-mustache campaign with deceptive health claims; that petition is currently under investigation...."
Now I'm thinking that we need to get the PCRM involved pa/tn March of Dimes/Peanut Board issues. What do the rest of you think? I happy to start this off as a campaign if there is support for it?
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Posted on: Tue, 04/24/2001 - 11:48pm
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As I stated earlier, we do not have the right to rain on others' parades. If you are allergic to something avoid it, educate others, and support those conducting research for cures and treatments. If we banned everything that someone was allergic to there would be nothing left to eat, drink, and breath. I'm starting to feel like many of you are losing sight of what can be realistically done and are beginning to sound a little "over the top". You won't get people to listen to your cause if you are constantly looking to condemn others or ban things just because they are harmful to a small minority of people. You must be realistic and state your case in a rational, composed manner in order to be taken seriously.

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You might be interested to know that the Physicans Committe for Responsible Medicine is an organization that promotes vegatarian lifestyles. Their suggested diets include lots of nuts and seeds for protein AND THIS IS IN A PREGANCY DIET!!! They have a recommeded vegatarian diet for children ages 1-3 that includes nuts and nut butters (like peanut butter)! This is downright STUPID!!!Oh, they do say be careful as peanuts are a choking hazard in small children! (duh!!!)
One of their suggested recipes for a HEALTHY life is their Spicy Thai Peanut Satay/. Hmmmm
I don't think this is the group that is going to be condemning the peanut industry!
They are also considered by many to be a somewhat radical organization, along the lines of PETA. THey claim a membership of "nearly 5000" doctors. This number has been disputed by other medical organizations.
Oh and by the way, they are already protesting something in connection with the March of Dimes. Animal experimentation. The head of the organizations feels that we can avoid school violence by identifying animal abusers (hmmm, well that takes care of that problem heh)
To get this, and a lot of other nonsense (and I am a vegatarain who is against a lot (but not all) animal research, you can go directly to their web site: [url="http://www.pcrm.org"]www.pcrm.org[/url]

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so, to basically answer your question, I say NO, let us NOT use this organization for their support. As I have said before, and as the prior poster has said, lets use rational approaches so as not to lose support of the mainstream public.

Posted on: Fri, 08/31/2001 - 9:22am
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Did anyone else see this big peanut? While at the Bite of Portland it wouldn't have done any good protesting as it sat empty but for one couple I saw entering the 18 wheeler's trailer. So the grounds weren't littered with shells and wrapers and the No Peanut shirt went unnoticed.
Dan

Posted on: Sat, 09/01/2001 - 9:19am
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Yuck! Our family's going to the Bloomsburg Fair in a few weeks. You can be sure I'll be on the lookout for this promotional tour. Believe me, I'll open my big mouth if someone starts spouting off how peanuts are such a good source of folic acid for pregnant women. On the other hand, hopefully I can avoid this stand like the plague. I know there's a roasted peanut stand that we stay far away from while we're there.

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OMG! They will be comming to a town near us. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img] I take my children every year to a fair in Bloomsburg,PA. IT is about an hour away from where I live.
Guess who isn't doing the fair thing this year! I know my children will be disapointed but If they are giving out samples to all my son could be in real danger and Gosh I would love to wear shirts to show that PEANUTS KILL, but I wouldn't dare take him anywhere near there because of the exposure.
Guess we will have to do something different this year.
Best wishes,
Renee [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

Posted on: Mon, 09/03/2001 - 8:32pm
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renee111064,
Believe me, this really scares me. This fair has been a tradition with us for 17 years. This issue has weighed heavy on my mind, but we'll go this year with six epipens, prelone, etc. I take comfort in knowing the hospital is close by, too, and feeling our precautions will help keep him safe. We don't ride the rides or eat the food, but give each child $20 to spend. Now we'll have more verbal warnings about things to look out for--more so than ever. I just read btbear's post under the Introduction board and feel better with my decision now. My worry also is if we don't go or don't take him, he'll know it's because of his allergy. Gosh, I wrestle with these feelings everyday--gauging risk vs. leading a somewhat "normal" life. Not very fun, is it.

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While I agree wholeheartedly with the posters who said we shouldn't demonize peanuts, I also think that an organization that speaks for unborn children should consider their partnerships, so I wrote the March of Dimes. Here's what their VP of media relations had to say:
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Thank you for your inquiry about peanuts, and for raising topics that we continue to monitor. I'd like to share with you the information we post on our Web site about this ([url]http://www.modimes.org/HealthLibrary2/peanuts.htm[/url])
which I think will give you further details on allergies and also outline that peanuts are recognized as a natural source of folic acid, which is the core of our health message. We are also in a constructive relationship with the FAAN, and keep them apprised of our materials.
Many thanks for writing, I appreciate your thoughts.
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I was encouraged that they had at least addressed the issue, but it doesn't do a lot of good buried on their web site when the truck are rolling out peanut fairs all across the country. ((sigh)) I guess the influence follows the money.

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