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My son had an anaphylactic reaction this past Friday. He started swelling one hour after eating some store-bought popcorn (already popped). We headed to the hospital (5:00 rush hour on a Friday). I had to use the Epi-Pen for the first time (I pulled over on the side of the highway). It was a very scary experience. This was his first reaction since his initial reaction 6 years ago. I called the company today and they say there are no peanut products in their facility. So I don't know what to think. I'm scared to have my son eat anything at this point. Our house is peanut-free and I don't know what else he could have reacted to. Any thoughts? It seems likely that it was the popcorn, but I don't know.

[This message has been edited by jessica77 (edited February 07, 2005).]

On Feb 7, 2005

I am sooo sorry about your son. Is he doing better now? Don't look for the obvious(sp?} Look deeper,does he have other allergies? What was he eating before the popcorn? I'll try to think of more ?'s sending a angel your way to watch over him [img]http://www.TimeshareWeb.net/public/angel_9.gif[/img]

------------------ Love this site Synthia

On Feb 7, 2005

jessica, I'm so sorry your son had this reaction. I'm glad he is ok. Is it only peanuts your son is allergic too?

Had he eaten anything else? It can take a few hours sometimes.

Was he touching the cart in the store? Maybe he touched peanut residue?

On Feb 7, 2005

Wow, Jessica, sorry this had to happen. I hope your son is better by now.

You might consider calling 911 next time. I vowed to never again put my son in the car while he was reacting.

911 can get thru traffic, can treat him if it gets worse enroute to the hospital and can get you in the doors of the ER instead of a waiting room.

I often speak to the EMTs who shop at my local store and they assure me they will come for PA, they take it very seriously. Good luck. Peggy

On Feb 7, 2005

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Originally posted by jessica77: [b]My son had an anaphylactic reaction this past Friday. He started swelling one hour after eating some store-bought popcorn (already popped). We headed to the hospital (5:00 rush hour on a Friday). I had to use the Epi-Pen for the first time (I pulled over on the side of the highway). It was a very scary experience. This was his first reaction since his initial reaction 6 years ago. I called the company today and they say there are no peanut products in their facility. So I don't know what to think. I'm scared to have my son eat anything at this point. Our house is peanut-free and I don't know what else he could have reacted to. Any thoughts? It seems to likely that it was the popcorn, but I don't know. [/b]

OMG

I hope he's doing better NOW. Please let us know he IS...

Hope you get to the bottom of the allergen and where it came from... I would think, IMO, if peanuts are to be avoided, then store bought popcorn would be just fine.

They pop it at the store? (Like Target?) Or shelved popcorn (like umm... crackerjackish -- see I am so clueless, I dont buy it..) [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

How are today?

Jason

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On Feb 7, 2005

Thanks, everyone, for responding. My son is doing fine now. We had spent the night in the hospital. As I look back, I realize that I waited too long to leave for the hospital. I called the doctor basically to find out if I should call 911 or drive to the hospital myself, and they told me to give him Benadryl and the swelling should go down. That got me all confused. (this was the regular pediatrician, not the allergist). Synthia, since your daughter's reaction, how do you feel about feeding her anything?! We can't necessarily trust the labels. Will you ever give her Hershey's again? Jason, the popcorn my son ate was on the shelf at the store. The ingredients were: popcorn, corn oil and salt. Sounds safe enough, right? His reaction started at 4:30 and for the 3 hours prior to that we had been playing outside in the snow and then came in and at the popcorn. I am upset about the whole ordeal, because I feel like I can't trust any food to be safe for my son. We are very careful about what we eat. Thanks again. Jessica

On Feb 7, 2005

jessica77, I will answer your ?'s tonight when the kids are in bed,they just got home from school!

------------------ Love this site Synthia

On Feb 7, 2005

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Originally posted by jessica77: [b]As I look back, I realize that I waited too long to leave for the hospital. I called the doctor basically to find out if I should call 911 or drive to the hospital myself, and they told me to give him Benadryl[/b]

When Little V had her first reaction(at 18 months old I too called the doc and was told to give benadryl I did not know what to do either.Long story short Picture the size of a dime,now cut it in to 1/4's that size was the amount that was missing from the pb cracker we don't know if that was the amount she had ingested,or less. Anyway I took her to the hospital and when we arrived they asked me "is she a burn victim".She was beet red all over.I said no.All I could get out of my mouth was she took a bite of peanut...the next thing I knew we where in the room hooked up to lines Iv's and they told me to call my DH I knew at that point we where in trouble.I was chewed out by the staff and other people about the need to call 911 and don't wait,hay I was a newbie at this.

[b]and the swelling should go down. That got me all confused. (this was the regular pediatrician, not the allergist).[/b] It did me too,I had to call twice before I left for the hospital.

[b]Synthia, since your daughter's reaction, how do you feel about feeding her anything?![/b]

You know I do understand being scared about feeding her food,and yes we have to be really careful about the food we feed our PA children.I have found that the less that is on the label the better her system handels it.Did that make any sense [b]We can't necessarily trust the labels.[/b]No we can not but believe in yourself mistakes happen don't beat yourself up and it won't be long before the new labeling law takes effect (2006) it's not perfect but it is a step in the right direction. [b]Will you ever give her Hershey's again?[/b] At the time she had this reaction I would have said NO,after talking with her doc the answer is yes!!! I was told by her doc that we are to wait until she has fully recovered and have in hand the epi-pen and steriouds and breathing treatmet before we are to try! Thats what we will try I donnot reccomend this way to anyone. Talk to your doctors you and the doctors now the history of your child.Yes I am going to be a nervise nilly when we try again,There are still ? in refference to the reaction we still need to figure out.

[b]I am upset about the whole ordeal, because I feel like I can't trust any food to be safe [/b] Jessica

I too was soooo upset that I took a chance,I new where I went wrong and I will never let my gaurd down again. Fresh fruits and veggies and remember the less processed the better!!

? Does your son have a corn allergy? I hope this helped in some small way

------------------ Love this site Synthia

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On Feb 7, 2005

jessica77, I am so sorry to hear of your son's reaction, but glad to hear that he is feeling better. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Did the popcorn list any flavourings or colourings?

My son did have a cross contamination reaction once (although not anaphylactic) and when I spoke with the company, they swore up and down that it could not have possibly been their cake mix. And yet, that was the only thing he had eaten that was new and the hives appeared as soon as he ate the cupcake.

Then, I posted here about his reaction and the manufacturer of the cake mix, only to find that other members didn't trust them either for various reasons. Now, I just avoid them.

As far as beating yourself up about not getting your son to the hospital sooner - you did call the pediatrician and were given advice. At least you did that. Whether the advice was correct or not, I can well understand your absolute panic.

I learned the very hard way, by my son almost dying, that you don't drive to the hospital.

If I were you, I would consider that part of it a learning experience, one that you will never forget. Next time you will not hesitate to call 911. You will NOT drive.

The last town I lived in, I thought my daughter (non-PA) was having a FA reaction at McDonald's. I immediately called and got an ambulance. Of course, the ambulance personnel thought I was insane, but I really didn't care at that point.

You learned a valuable lesson, your guy is okay, and our thoughts are with you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

On Feb 7, 2005

Jessica,

How is your son doing? That must have been really scary for the both of you. What brand was the popcorn? Did the company sort of give you the CYA response or was it genuine? I have a very tight comfort zone because of the multiple allergies I am dealing with so I have not allowed my dds to eat popcorn. I wonder if though that the ingredient of "corn oil" could be produced where they make peanut oils? I hope things are better and sending you a cyber (HUG).

On Feb 8, 2005

You are all so right! I will definitely not hestitate to call 911 next time. We went to the doctor yesterday and he was tested for corn allergy. We'll know the results in a few days. I don't think he's allergic to corn, though. He just ate corn-on-the-cob last week and he's eaten corn a lot in the past. Mom2nickie mentioned that maybe the corn oil was contaminated - I didn't think about that, but maybe that's it. The company seemed very confident in their response that "there are no peanut products in our facility." All I know is that we'll be popping our own popcorn from now on! Thank you so much everyone. This support has been invaluable to me.

On Feb 8, 2005

jessica, i'm sorry, I misunderstood, I thought your son was in the store with you, and he was eating the popcorn on the way home.

As far as calling 911, when my son woke up struggling to breathe, I panicked, threw him in the car and drove the 5 blocks to the hospital. Never even thought about 911. But let me tell you, every 2 seconds I was asking him if he was ok, just to make sure he answered and was still breathing. I was by myself and it was the longest drive ever. I pray next time I will think to call 911. It just happens so fast you can't think straight.

My son has also had reactions (not as bad as your sons), that I haven't been able to pin down what caused them and it is very frustrating.

Hopefully he has not developed a corn allergy as well. Keep us posted, and hang in there. I'm sure you are still quite shaken up. I know I would be!

On Feb 8, 2005

So scary! I'd almost bet on residue on something- maybe the popcorn bag or container itself! Paula

On Feb 8, 2005

There have been questions raised regarding genetically engineered corn and food allergies.

The following article was published in 2001:

[url="http://www.biotech-info.net/jury_still_out.html"]http://www.biotech-info.net/jury_still_out.html[/url]

Jury Still Out on Genetically Modified Corn

Emma Patten-Hitt, PhD Reuters Health via Yahoo! News April 30, 2001

ATLANTA - Corn genetically engineered to produce insect-killing proteins may have caused several cases of allergic reaction, but it is too soon to know for sure, according to an investigation by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia.

The genetically engineered corn, called StarLink, is produced by Aventis Crop Science and was removed from use for human consumption because of concerns about potential allergic reactions. It was, however, later found in taco shells, leading to a recall of more than 300 food products last September.

To assess the health effects of this incident, CDC researchers led by Dr. Brad S. Winterton interviewed 18 individuals who reported symptoms consistent with food allergies after eating corn products--mainly tacos and corn chips.

Of 18 persons interviewed, 12 reported a serious allergic reaction called anaphylaxis, which is characterized by low blood pressure and difficult breathing. Fourteen reported skin allergy, and nine reported stomach problems.

The researchers reported the findings on Thursday at the CDC's 50th Annual Epidemic Intelligence Service Conference meeting here.

According to Winterton, none of the other 60 or so genetically engineered foods on the market have been linked with these types of allergic reactions.

"Just about any crop that we eat has been genetically modified for something," Winterton said. "Other crops have been approved that are insecticidal," he said, "but there's no concern that they might also create an allergic reaction."

The chance of finding the corn's insecticidal protein, called Cry9C, in the current human food supply is slim, Winterton noted.

"The US Department of Agriculture USDA has developed a test...for Cry9C, and the test is being used by many manufacturers of corn products to ensure that their corn has none of the protein in it," he said.

Due to cross-pollination among different plant species, the protein might end up in corn that was non-StarLink, Winterton said, but the USDA test would be able to pick this up also.

"Next, we will be comparing the serum of people who have an allergic reaction to those who we know do not," Winterton added.

"I wish we had the answer to whether the corn caused these allergic reactions," Winterton said, but he pointed out that it is rare for people to have an allergy to corn that has not been genetically modified to produce Cry9C.

On Feb 8, 2005

Well, that's an interesting article. Why do they have to keep "modifying" our food?? My son is being tested for corn allergy. I wonder if the test covers the genetically modified corn?

On Feb 8, 2005

This is interesting cause Little V will only eat green giant corn,she does not have a corn allergy????

------------------ Love this site Synthia edited to add,genetically modified corn? I will have to research this area when I can find the time lol.

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On Feb 9, 2005

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Originally posted by jessica77: [b]Well, that's an interesting article. Why do they have to keep "modifying" our food?? [/b]

It's my understanding and I could be wrong, that in some instances, it might be to enable some crops to better tolerate items such as this. (Not sure if that is the case in the particular GM corn being discussed in this thread.):

[url="http://www.inchem.org/documents/pds/pds/pest91_e.htm"]http://www.inchem.org/documents/pds/pds/pest91_e.htm[/url]

This was issued in 1996, so I'm not sure how current it is.

I also posted some links on page 2 in this thread [url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum22/HTML/002325.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum22/HTML/002325.html[/url]

(GM foods and herbicides came up in discussion)

General Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. I do not guarantee the accuracy, content, or currentness of the link in this post.

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On Feb 9, 2005

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Originally posted by synthia: [b]This is interesting cause Little V will only eat green giant corn,she does not have a corn allergy????

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How's this?

Caitlin will NOT eat 'frozen bagged corn' which she USED to eat all the time -- And she can tell which is which.

She ONLY eats 'dark corn' now -- dark corn is not dark. Its canned. Whther its store brand, del monte, or ANY company. If its canned, she'll eat it.

Tastes different, she says... It does. I know.... But c'mon.. corn is corn isn't it??? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Jason

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On Feb 9, 2005

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Originally posted by jtolpin: [b]Tastes different, she says... It does. I know.... But c'mon.. corn is corn isn't it??? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

[/b]

Different texture.

One of my son's will not eat frozen peas - but canned peas is his favourite veggie.

Canned veggies ([b]in my opinion[/b]) are overcooked - much softer, less flavour, less nutritional value. No surprise that kids prefer them. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img]

On Feb 12, 2005

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Originally posted by MommaBear: [b]

I also posted some links on page 2 in this thread [url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum22/HTML/002325.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum22/HTML/002325.html[/url]

[/b]

reraising to compliment another thread.

On Feb 12, 2005

1. He may be allergic to corn.

2. The corn oil may be produced in the same factory as peanut oil. Some oils are not safe because of cross-contamination.

On Feb 12, 2005

Thank you, Cathlina. That could be... cross-contaminated corn oil might have been what caused the reaction. I'm not sure we will ever know for sure. I do know that we will be popping our own popcorn from now on! I'm pretty sure he's not allergic to corn because he eats it all the time. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

On Mar 3, 2005

So sorry your son had a reaction! Was the popcorn popped at the store or from a sealed package? If sealed, can you tell us what brand? I would like to avoid it! Thanks.

On Mar 6, 2005

jessica77, So sorry that you had to go through that.

Did you talk to the popcorn manufacturer? What company was it? Any insight you can share?

Thanks!

On Mar 6, 2005

Jessica,

Hope you figure it out. I know how frustrating it is to have "mystery" reactions. You feel like you are losing your mind. Hope your little one is doing better.

Doreen

On Mar 7, 2005

Jessica77, just wanted to send best wishes - what a scary experience - hope you and your son are feeling better now.

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