Moms: are you a tea drinker? Use fluoride treatments?

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:53am
BriandBrinasmom's picture
Joined: 10/20/2006 - 09:00

I'm back to my armchair research again!

Fluoride is one of the substances that's been proposed as a possible cause of in utero damage to kids with food allergies. To (really) summarize, food allergies are ultimately caused because a child's gut mucosa has a immunological response to a food protein. This may be because their gut is damaged by some substance they're exposed to, before or after birth, allowing these larger, antigenic proteins to slip through and trigger the reaction.

One substance that's been proposed as a cause for this damage is fluoride. We drink fluoride in our water. We brush our teeth with it. It's in some food products, including high levels in processed tea.

So...moms of food allergic children: are you a tea drinker? A big tap water drinker? Did you use whitening treatments before or during pregnancy? Do you see your dentist twice a year? In general, would you consider yourself a high consumer of fluoride?

And for those who posted before that they believe food allergies are genetic, I'm not discounting a genetic factor. However, food allergies have increased dramatically in just the last few generations, not enough time for genetic changes to be the cause. We also know that food allergies are not found outside industrialized nations and presumably some humans in Bangledesh have the same genetic make-up as we do, so it follows that there's something else at work here. Autoimmune diseases are not a good thing evolutionarily speaking, so food allergies are not something that's likely to suddenly pop up "in the wild" without there being some cause (or benefit, I suppose, to having them stay in the gene pool).

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 4:57am
Adele's picture
Joined: 01/31/2005 - 09:00

I am PA but I can answer for my mother. Yes, she was a BIG tea drinker, as I am. Yes, she drank tap water but this was in New Zealand.
Most NZ'ers water supply was, and still is, catchment (rain water). No minerals or flouride. Even the ground water is lacking in natural flouride. Therefore, New Zealanders have had some of the world's worst teeth. However, that has changed with flouride toothpastes, better dental care, etc.
When I was pregnant with my son, I had flouride treatments on my teeth (probably not while pregnant) and drank flouridated tap water. I'm a big tea drinker. Never used whitening treatments, and my son has no food allergies.

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 5:38am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous (not verified)

A very BIG tea drinker here while pregnant with both children (one PA, one non-PA). Have reduced that significantly since. Also, drink a LARGE amount of tap water per day; while pregnant and still to-date. Use toothpaste with fluoride.
No whiteners for my teeth tho' and I can't remember the last time I had a fluoride treatment on my teeth.
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Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 6:05am
mept_famom's picture
Joined: 10/27/2006 - 09:00

Not a big tea drinker. Did have teeth whitening before and after pregnancies. None while breastfeeding. Flouride in tap water, sure and I did/do drink a lot of water. Flouride in toothpaste, yes. Flouride treatments at dentist because they thought everyone should have them, yes. Do I think it has anything to do with allergies? No.
I'm more inclined to believe that the increase in breastfeeding is related to the increase in food allergies. And I am all for breast feeding, I did it, would do it again. But I think it's part of the equation, more so than any other theory out there.

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 6:38am
kandomom's picture
Joined: 01/12/2006 - 09:00

Not a big tea drinker.
No teeth whitening treatments, but flouride at the dentist 2x/yr.
Drinks tap water (flouridated).
One PA child and one not.

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 6:50am
maphiemom's picture
Joined: 12/01/2005 - 09:00

Not a tea drinker at all with either kids, very infrequent with the floride none anywhere near pregnancies, I am open to hearing any theories.

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 6:58am
Sarahfran's picture
Joined: 06/08/2000 - 09:00

Can't stand tea. Boiled weeds. Yuck.
Also not a tap water drinker. I should drink more water, but I can't seem to force myself to do it. In the past year I've gotten better, largely because the office water cooler is close by. But during my pregnancy? Hardly drank any.
And I'm one of those people who have to force myself to go to the dentist. I usually manage once a year, but sometimes I stretch it out longer. I know I had a lot of dental work done during my pregnancy with Connor (just one cleaning; the rest was work because of a filling that came out and then the tooth it had been in broke) but he doesn't have the allergies. I don't remember if I went at all during my pregnancy with Claire. I don't think I did because I was concerned about the dental x-rays. So not a big flouride user either.

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 7:18am
mommamia8's picture
Joined: 11/13/2005 - 09:00

No tea here, hot or cold. I actually hate Iced tea.
No fluoride from dentist, only in tap.
You mention the mucosal lining of the gut and I see you are new here. I am big on probiotics and use Culterelle. You should visit their site and read up on Lactobacillus GG. You can email me for more info if you want.

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 8:52am
BriandBrinasmom's picture
Joined: 10/20/2006 - 09:00

For the poster who attributes food allergies to come food allergies weren't killing people then for the thousand of years before we had formula? LOL!!
On a serious note, there have been a number of studies that have shown that breastfeeding has a protective effect on "closing up" the intestinal mucosa after a baby is born.

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 8:56am
BriandBrinasmom's picture
Joined: 10/20/2006 - 09:00

And thanks momma, but we already supplement with lactobacilli - not sure which brand but we finally found one that was not grown in milk culture after much searching. It can't hurt and I have read studies that say it does some good.
My son obviously has absorption problems (he's 11 years old and 55 lbs) so we need every little bit of help. Pretty quick here his 7 yr old sister's going to outweigh him and it's terrible for his dignity when she sits on him and he can't get her off!

Posted on: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 11:33am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

I stopped drinking tea and coffee when I found out I was pregnant.
Prior to that I drank one cup of tea in the morning and a pot of coffee during the day.
I had my teeth cleaned twice a year.
I don't drink a lot of water at all and when I do, it's filtered, not tap.


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