MCDONALDS PRETZELS

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DOES ANYONE LET THEIR PEANUT, TREE NUT, SESAME SEED ALLERGIC KIDS EAT THESE. IM ASSUMING THEY ARE NOT SAFE SINCE MCDONALDS DOESNT ACTUALLY MAKE THEM AND I READ HERE THAT THEIR CONES ARE NOT SAFE? THEY ARE NOT ON THE MCDONALDS WEBSITE YET OR THEIR PAMPHELET. I EMAILED MCDONALDS...........

On Nov 16, 2005

Where did you hear the cones are not safe? My son has eaten them many times with no issues.

On Nov 16, 2005

ON THIS SITE. SOMEONE HAD THE MANAGER INQUIRE ABOUT THEM AND FOUND OUT THEY ARE MADE IN FACILITY WITH NUTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT MAY BE UNDER A SOFT SERVE SEARCH ON THIS SITE

On Nov 16, 2005

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Posts: 25 Registered: Apr 2005 posted April 20, 2005 06:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Ethans mommy Click Here to Email Ethans mommy Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote McDonalds cones are not safe for PA, they are made in the same facility as peanuts and not labeled properly. I had the store manager call about it and she took about 2 weeks to get back to me (I guess she had to call coporate or something) and sure enough she said they cannot guantee the safty of the cones. I NEVER feed the cones to my PA son we always get his soft serve in a cup.

------------------ Ethans mommy

On Nov 16, 2005

McD's has pretzels???

On Nov 16, 2005

Oh, bloody he**. Canadian specific. We eat McDonald's ice cream cones all the time. The information has to be on the nutritional pamphlet. I am fairly clear that you do have them in America as well.

As far as pretzels, I have not seen them in Canada.

Recently (well, in the summer), katiee had a question about the PA safety of a McDonald's product in Canada. You can actually get the answer, with a bit of figuring out, by going to their website.

Try [url="http://www.mcdonalds.com"]www.mcdonalds.com[/url] for America and [url="http://www.mcdonalds.ca"]www.mcdonalds.ca[/url] for Canada.

But no, here in Canada, bloody he**, the cones are PA safe. I mean, it's one of the few places that we can even buy an ice cream cone.

Check the website please before panicking.

I'll re-raise katiee's thread, only because I know I did have difficulty figuring out how to get to the allergy information, but I did finally get it. Or, perhaps I won't re-raise but simply place in here.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 16, 2005

Sorry, didn't see that the pretzels aren't on the website yet, but at least check there re the cones before mass flipping panic breaks out (similar to a statement this week about Pizza Hut using peanut oil in America).

We'll be going on Friday to one in Canada - I'll check to see if they're there, but right now I'm going to the websites.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 16, 2005

And sorry, I'm not clear if I had a sesame seed allergic child if I would be eating at McDonald's period. I mean, most of the buns do have sesame seeds on them and I would consider that a high risk of contamination. I am dealing with PA only.

This *might* be a good question raised separately for those members that do deal with sesame seed allergy as well - also I'm not sure that the bread itself (buns) would be sesame seed safe.

If my child was sesame seed allergic, I'm not clear we would be able to eat at McDonald's. PA, as he is, yes. TNA yes. But really not clear about the sesame seed one. I think I would be finding a burger joint that didn't have sesame seeds on their buns for one thing, and even then, I'd have to check on the safety of the buns.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 16, 2005

Canadian specific re the cones from the [url="http://www.mcdonalds.ca"]www.mcdonalds.ca[/url] website. Also noting that the [url="http://www.mcdonalds.com"]www.mcdonalds.com[/url] website lists for the top 8 allergens so it didn't even include sesame seed.

The cones, including the ice cream:-

Cone - Small - Vanilla Ingredients: Vanilla Ice Milk Modified milk ingredients, sugar, glucose, soy mono and diglycerides, guar gum, dextrose, artificial vanilla flavour, carrageenan, cellulose gum. Small cone Enriched wheat flour, tapioca flour, sugar, vegetable oil (canola and/or soybean oil), soy lecithin, sodium bicarbonate, salt, natural colour (annatto), corn syrup.

In the Spring issue of the Anaphylaxis Canada newsletter, McDonald's Restaurants of Canada Limited was mentioned as one of 24 restaurant chains that have signed on to the voluntary program of starting to list allergen information and provide detailed nutrition information.

Tim Horton's is amongst the restaurants (if you will) as well - they just mass label everything as "may contain".

For more information about the program, you can visit [url="http://www.crfa.ca"]www.crfa.ca[/url] , but I think it's excellent and I've certainly seen it in place, in McDonald's well before the announcement in this newsletter.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 16, 2005

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Originally posted by Jimmy's mom: [b]McD's has pretzels???[/b]

don't know about pretzels, but the McDonald's near me has these:

[url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum11/HTML/002542.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum11/HTML/002542.html[/url]

On Nov 16, 2005

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Originally posted by csc: [b]Sorry, didn't see that the pretzels aren't on the website yet, but at least check there re the cones before mass flipping panic breaks out (similar to a statement this week about Pizza Hut using peanut oil in America).

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apparently the one we order from does not. And the one I recommended for *Hot Lunch* at school.....Hey, I could be wrong, but my family scarfed down *two* family size pizza's the other night. NO ADVICE, WE COULD BE DOING IT ALL WRONG. PLAYING RUSSIAN ROULETTE..........I COULD BE A BAD MOMMY.

General Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. Just describing my own personal, highly individual, and unique situation. Individual Mileage May Vary. Who knows, maybe my children have *outgrown* their allergies.

ps....Don't mind me, I'm still freaking out about handcleaner.

On Nov 16, 2005

i heard about the oil at pizza hut and the unsafe mcdonalds cones on this site. im just saying what i heard here. we dont eat either so i didnt find out about them

On Nov 16, 2005

wow mcdonalds in canada has deli sandwiches? we dont!!! darn!!! we avoid sesame as a precaution because of how my son acted when he ate sesame breads. cant wait till dec. 1st when he gets tested for most tree nuts and sesame seeds!!

On Nov 16, 2005

I'm a lousy mother. Would you believe we order pizza from *five* different pizza establishments. (All different corporations)

I ALSO routinely purchase pizza from two *other* corporations found at my local grocer.

Dang. Almost forgot: I buy my cubs a slice of pizza from a particular store when we shop.

AND................ [i]on occassion, when I have completely lost my sensibility...........[/i] we make our own. Crust and all.

OOPS!!! I almost forgot!!! When pressed for time, I might purchase a ready made pizza crust instead (from a particular company).

Would you believe I've also been told I'm over protective regarding my cubs food allergies? LOL.

GO FIGURE.

As far as giving out brand names, sometimes, it terrifies me. Even on *good days*.

Ad Nauseum: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. Just describing my own personal, highly individual, and unique situation. Individual Mileage May Vary. Who knows, maybe my children have *outgrown* their allergies. [i]even tho my oldest's last rast was well in the six thousands....[/i]. I MIGHT BE A BAD MOMMY.

edit format.

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On Nov 16, 2005

Where is my stake.......so I can strap myself to it? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]

On Nov 16, 2005

we get pizza out and also buy crust to make pizza. my son loves to cook!! we try to be as normal as possible. hate saying no to him.

On Nov 16, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]ON THIS SITE. SOMEONE HAD THE MANAGER INQUIRE ABOUT THEM AND FOUND OUT THEY ARE MADE IN FACILITY WITH NUTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT MAY BE UNDER A SOFT SERVE SEARCH ON THIS SITE[/b]

you also posted this:

[i]"my son is PA for sure but we also avoid tree nuts. he also prefers mcdonalds though!! i know pizza hut uses peanut oil (my neice works there)."[/i]

and this:

[i]"ive heard that pizza hut and chik fil a both use peanut oil. i believe its a known thing. she works in new jersey. "[/i]

in this thread:

[url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum11/HTML/002594.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum11/HTML/002594.html[/url]

edit to add quote.

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On Nov 16, 2005

Momma Bear, well, if you're BAD MOMMY, so am I then. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

I buy the pre-made crusts that come with a packet of sauce in the local grocery store. They look well labeled to me IMPHO and we have never had a problem. I also buy Kraft and McCain frozen pizzas (obviously not the Kraft one with the PA warning).

We eat pizza from Pizza Hut, Pizza Pizza and have eaten at Domino's. We also eat at a local pizzeria (having asked what I feel are all of the requisite questions).

As far as McDonald's - the American website had not been up-dated since the end of September month, but I found it very comprehensive as far as the 8 top allergens.

tidina, may I ask, since Momma Bear did post a quote from you saying that yes, you do eat at McDonald's, what does your son eat? I mean, I'm not clear if the buns are safe (I'll have to check another thread I started to see if there were any responses) - the bread of the buns itself. I know that not all of the buns have sesame seeds on top, but the ones that now hit my table do.

So, with McDonald's you're not worried about a cross contamination issue such as the one you're worried about in pizza places even though your son is not TNA, but you do need to know whether or not the pretzel is actually free of the sesame seed allergen? Is that my understanding?

At any rate, I would be pleased to see the e-mail posted.

Here, in Canada, as far as I am concerned, from the McDonald's Canada website and from their agreement to work with Anaphylaxis Canada (which I don't think is taken lightly), the ice cream cones are PA safe, both the cone and the ice cream.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 16, 2005

Another bad mommy here. I buy those same ready made crusts in the personal size for dd since she hates sauce. She gets a meager sprinkling of cheese on her "personal pizza" while the other three of us enjoy the chicken, spinach and carmelized onions one we order.

It does get confusing when there are posts here that counter what is published on a company website, or gathered by a phone call.

In light of the discrepencies, even with calling, I have decided to rely on label reading until I have a reason to go further these days. I just cannot take it anymore. I am cracking up over this stuff. Meaning it drives me crazy when I do a search, not meaning laughing at this conversation! becca

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On Nov 16, 2005

becca, sounds like we're in about the same space about stuff right now. You said it very well. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] (you didn't say we were in the same space but what you said you said very well).

I, personally, can only control what I can control (posted this in the pizza places thread).

I don't know if the tomatoe I bought for a sandwich for the kids this week had fallen off the pile into the bushel basket of peanuts right beside it (that is true, that is how things are placed in my grocery store) and put back on the pile and then I brought it home.

Even the things that I can control, I can only control to a certain degree (i.e., trust that the labeling is good, whatever).

I've done okay on the journey so far (although yes, my son has had reactions), but at least we all haven't gone insane.

I have to trust that the website is clear. Especially if the company is working with Anaphylaxis Canada. Actually, Pizza Hut is as well here in Canada.

Does FAAN have a similar program?

Anyway.....

Three bad mommies.....

I have to go to bed. The stress is killing me (not here).

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 16, 2005

About that stress, csc, what's up with the nice guy upstairs that had you come see movies? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] TOTALLY OT, I know. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] becca

On Nov 16, 2005

becca, you read it, so I've edited it out. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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On Nov 17, 2005

From McDonalds USA website -

Vanilla Reduced Fat Ice Cream

Whole milk, sucrose, cream, nonfat milk solids, corn syrup solids, mono- and diglycerides, guar gum, imitation vanilla flavor, carrageenan, cellulose gum, vitamin A palmitate. Contains milk ingredients. Ice Cream Cone

Enriched flour (wheat flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate [vitamin B1], riboflavin [vitamin B2], folic acid), contains 2% or less of cornstarch, partially hydrogenated soybean and/or cottonseed oil, sugar, salt, baking soda, annatto (for color), artificial flavor, soy lecithin. Contains wheat and soybean ingredients. Allergens :

Wheat, Milk, Soybean

On Nov 17, 2005

AJSMAMA, thank-you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

So, what does this tell us? For me, I've always double checked on products HERE. It was only in the summer I first visited the McDonald's Canada website to get some information for katiee.

The cones are safe! In both Canada and the U.S.

To whoever originally got the response that they were not okay, I would say then that the McDonald's they were buying from needs to be reported to corporate headquarters. There is no sense having a website up and running, particularly with very clear allergen information on it, if individual stores are going to go against that (I'm not clear that they do).

I will see if pretzels are on the menu tomorrow night and if there is allergy information available in the store for them.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 17, 2005

LOL, csc. At least it makes for an amuzing story. Now if 4 kids by 3 different women isn't a turn on, I don't know what is! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

I don't know why, but it had just popped into my head and wondered about what was up with it.

Back on topic everyone, sorry. becca

On Nov 17, 2005

As for Pizza Hut, I had to look into them this summer and at least here in the U.S., they are not uniform as McD's is. Each Pizza Hut's ingredients are at their own discretion - I believe it has something to do with some of them being corporate owned, and others not.

Amy (who also frequents several different pizza establishments (none of them national chains), and who made an awesome pita pizza the other night)

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On Nov 17, 2005

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Originally posted by Going Nuts: [b]As for Pizza Hut, I had to look into them this summer and at least here in the U.S., they are not uniform as McD's is. Each Pizza Hut's ingredients are at their own discretion - I believe it has something to do with some of them being corporate owned, and others not.

Amy (who also frequents several different pizza establishments (none of them national chains), and who made an awesome pita pizza the other night)

[This message has been edited by Going Nuts (edited November 17, 2005).][/b]

Going Nuts, this information is helpful, to our American friends, thank-you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] What does the Pizza Hut U.S. website say?

Do you not have any fast food restaurants that work closely with FAAN?

As far as your last comment - you can now enter the BAD MOMMY club. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 17, 2005

The Pizza Hut where I live is completely safe. They do not use peanut oil. I had the manager read me all ingredients from the sauce and cheese and pepperoni. He said they did not use any peanut products or peanut oil. Hope he was right b/c my son eat's it.

On Nov 17, 2005

my pizza hut makes a dessert pizza with a nut topping in the same oven as the regular pizzas. no nuts on salad bar though!!

On Nov 17, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]my pizza hut makes a dessert pizza with a nut topping in the same oven as the regular pizzas. no nuts on salad bar though!![/b]

I don't know why your local Pizza Hut adds nuts to the dessert pizza, as I have eaten at many Pizza Huts and never found a dessert pizza that contains nuts.

Plus, the Pizza Hut USA wen site indicates that the dessert pizzas do not contain nuts [url="http://www.pizzahut.com/menu/allergen.asp"]http://www.pizzahut.com/menu/allergen.asp[/url]

Perhaps you can ask your local Pizza Hut why they add nuts to their dessert pizza considering the web site says the dessert pizza does not contain nuts. Why do they add nuts?

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On Nov 17, 2005

At the top of the pizza hut webpage it states that some pizza hut restaurants do use nuts and to check with the manager. as i said i spoke to manager and was told that this particular pizza hut in souderton, pa uses a topping in their dessert pizza that does contain nuts. the website also says that nuts may be used in common manufacturing plants. "Peanuts and tree nuts may be used in some Pizza Hut restaurants. Please check with the store manager. They may also be used in common manufacturing plants."

[This message has been edited by tidina (edited November 17, 2005).]

On Nov 17, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]At the top of the pizza hut webpage it states that some pizza hut restaurants do use nuts and to check with the manager. as i said i spoke to manager and was told that this particular pizza hut in souderton, pa uses a topping in their dessert pizza that does contain nuts. the website also says that nuts may be used in common manufacturing plants. "Peanuts and tree nuts may be used in some Pizza Hut restaurants. Please check with the store manager. They may also be used in common manufacturing plants." [/b]

but why would the franchise add nuts to the dessert pizza?? it tastes perfect without nuts... and the corporate owned restaurants make the dessert pizza without nuts..

why would an individual Pizza Hut restaurant go through all the effort and expense to add nuts to it?? what's the point.. I don't get it .. so many Americans seem to love nuts/peanuts everywhere [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

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On Nov 17, 2005

erik, I'm really coming to believe that. It seems to be SO much more an American *thing* and something I feel very badly about for our American friends.

Does this mean that FAAN does not work with any fast food restaurants/chains like Anaphylaxis Canada does here in Canada?

As I said in either this thread or the pizza one, it doesn't necessarily mean that working with Anaphylaxis Canada means they won't use the allergens, but they will provide nutritional pamphlets and let you know if the allergens are present.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 17, 2005

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Originally posted by MommaBear: [B As far as giving out brand names, sometimes, it terrifies me. Even on *good days*.

[This message has been edited by MommaBear (edited November 16, 2005).][/B]

Momma Bear, this has struck me about your posts and somehow I do think it is important. I do mention brand names, but as I cautioned McCobbre in the thread re her son becoming vegetarian, just because my guy had a PA reaction to Kraft Boca Burgers doesn't mean that she should necessarily write them off for her guy trying them, KWIM? I mean, it might have been a "one off" situation.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 17, 2005

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Originally posted by csc: [b] Does this mean that FAAN does not work with any fast food restaurants/chains like Anaphylaxis Canada does here in Canada?

As I said in either this thread or the pizza one, it doesn't necessarily mean that working with Anaphylaxis Canada means they won't use the allergens, but they will provide nutritional pamphlets and let you know if the allergens are present.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

[/b]

Should I raise this FAAN question separately?

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 18, 2005

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Originally posted by csc: [b] Momma Bear, this has struck me about your posts and somehow I do think it is important. I do mention brand names, but as I cautioned McCobbre in the thread re her son becoming vegetarian, just because my guy had a PA reaction to Kraft Boca Burgers doesn't mean that she should necessarily write them off for her guy trying them, KWIM? I mean, it might have been a "one off" situation.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

[/b]

For me, it's also an "efficacy" situation. As well as probably an "informed consent" one.

But that's just me, I'm not a [b]BAD MEMBER[/b] am I? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img] I mean, since I'm not liberal with brand names and/or companies?

On Nov 18, 2005

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Originally posted by csc: [b]erik, I'm really coming to believe that. It seems to be SO much more an American *thing* and something I feel very badly about for our American friends.

[/b]

I don't feel so badly. I don't feel badly. And I'm not a Canadian either.

[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

On Nov 18, 2005

I'm really not sure about which Fast Food restaurants work with FAAN, but a Burger King representative was at one of their conferences a few years ago, so they probably do.

Amy

On Nov 18, 2005

Going Nuts, I only know because Anaphylaxis Canada published in one of their newsletters the 24 fast food restaurants/chains they were working with. I only received the copy to get the school survey for nutternomore. I'm not a member. So, I just happened upon the information trying to get other information.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 18, 2005

We went to McDonald's tonight. They didn't have the pretzels there (Canadian specific, my area specific). They did, however, have a new Toffee hot drink. I asked the person behind the counter if she could let me look at the box or whatever the mix came out of. She couldn't understand what I was saying. I grabbed a nutritional pamphlet, but because the item is new, it wasn't on it. She was not able to answer my question re PA safety because again, she did not understand English very well and let's just say, I was not pleased. The drink was made by Nescafe and I'm not familiar enough with their products in the grocery store. So, I had to nix that and I have to say I was upset that I couldn't get her to understand what I was saying. Not a terribly big deal, but I'm glad it wasn't a question regarding the food we were going to buy.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 19, 2005

i know what you mean. i called a company yesterday asking about nuts and the rep. told me the product was safe, she said it is wheat and gluten free!! i was like, THAT IS FOR PEOPLE WITH CELIAC SPRUE, my son has food allergies and is allergic to blah blah blah,my gosh, anyway she finally knew what i was asking and is having someone call me back!!!

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