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Posted on: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 5:52am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b] But still, since the lot sample tested negative to nuts, Campbell's appears to have closed our file.[/b]
It's simply not in their best interest to investigate the matter.
Cathy

Posted on: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 9:53am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
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Oh, and she also made a statement that the reaction 'couldn't have been that serious' if we didn't treat her with the epi-pen.
[/b]
**** ***.
This is like saying: "Tossing a baby from a second story window isn't that serious as long as the person you toss them to catches them."
"Rolling your car three times in an accident isn't *that serious* unless you are injured in the process."
Any others?

Posted on: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 9:55am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b]Campbell's has requested the cans, [/b]
I bet they have.

Posted on: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 11:07am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b]...She assured me, repeatedly, that there was 'no possible chance' of cross contamination from the lines due to their cleaning procedures. I asked about possible shellfish cc, lentils, peas, etc. "No." She stated how closely they work with FAAN, and that they clean their lines extremely well due to the training they've received from FAAN re CC. They require their sub-suppliers to supply them with evidence that there is no cc as well. She was adamant. (I was wondering why, then, did they want to test the can?)... [/b]
D@mn, and I was hoping to have you do my "dirty work" for me. I will wait a week or so and call about the Cr of Chicken soup. [i]I've so been wanting/craving a turkey pie lately.[/i]
Who cares if they *clean* the lines, you asked specifically what other soups were processed on the lines? [i]They didn't answer your question? Perhaps they don't need our business? [/i]
Hopefully your allergist will be able to resolve something. This was a strong enough reaction, that you would not want this to happen again, especially away from Mom and Dad.
Take care,
Daisy

Posted on: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 11:16am
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Gail, I know how you feel. I know when my ds had the reaction after eating those cookies, I was sure it was cc. It was actually kind of disappointing to get negative test results. I know that sounds weird, but you just seem sure that has to be it and then you find out you have no idea what caused it.
I hope you get to the bottom of it.

Posted on: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 11:42am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b] But still, since the lot sample tested negative to nuts, Campbell's appears to have closed our file.[/b]
[i]mwahahahahaha.........[/i]
apparently Gail, Campbell's doesn't know you are "the velvet hammer".

Posted on: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 12:29am
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Quote:Originally posted by Momcat:
[b] It's simply not in their best interest to investigate the matter.
Cathy[/b]
I think that's exactly right.
So no, they don't want the cans now. They've met their obligation. Any further investigation might only lead to finding 'positive' results to undeclared ingredients.
[i]Before[/i] the test results were in, they wanted the cans, they were understanding and sympathetic. If I had sent them the cans, initially, instead of sending them directly to FARRP myself, the results would be the same of course, but Campbell's would have been the 'client' and would have controlled the process. They also would have controlled the dissemination of information. If the soup had tested positive, I think they probably would have had them retested. And I could have been told, for exmple, that testing wasn't "completed."
I wonder if I hadn't been so quick to share that the results were negative, that perhaps Campbell's would be more [i]willing[/i] to share information that now appears to be unavailable. E.g. what else they produce on those same lines, what (exactly) are in the flavorings. Part of me regrets not holding on to the results a bit longer until Campbell's answered those questions first. Now, they've taken the position that perhaps the reaction wasn't so significant after all, and that Mariah should 'just' get retested for everything. They don't seem very interested in helping me narrow that field down. Grrrr..... We'll see if our allergist is willing to make any headway with them.
Quote:Originally posted by momma2boys:
[b]I know when my ds had the reaction after eating those cookies, I was sure it was cc. It was actually kind of disappointing to get negative test results. I know that sounds weird, but you just seem sure that has to be it and then you find out you have no idea what caused it.[/b]
Yep. I'm grateful that Carefulmom has actually seen a Campbell's soup with an undeclared ingredient. It infuriates me that I specifically asked about peas, and she said that "NO", it was not possible that peas could end up in a soup where it was not an intended ingredient. It shows, at the very least, that the cross contamination [i]does exist,[/i] despite the Rep firmly and repeatedly declaring to me that it wasn't possible.
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Posted on: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 12:49am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]apparently Gail, Campbell's doesn't know you are "the velvet hammer".
[/b]
. . . feeling a bit more like a rubber doormat at the moment. LOL!

Posted on: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 1:11am
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Here`s a thought. I am not recommending that anyone do this; it is just a thought. If you had any leftover soup, you or your allergist could do a "skin test" with the soup. Put a little on her arm and see if she has a reaction where it touched her. I suppose this could be considered an exposure, but I have already thought of doing it after dd`s reaction last Sunday. I had thought of doing a "skin test" with the Divvies chocolate chips on one area and the Bisquick on another to see which caused the reaction. In our case, I suspect milk not peanuts. I don`t think I would be so quick to do it at home if I suspected peanuts or tree nuts. But doing it in the allergist`s office seems very safe, especially if your child eats several things, has a reaction and you don`t know which item caused it.

Posted on: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 8:22am
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I've done the at home "skin test." We were eating a meal and she complained that the peas had peanuts in them. I didn't want to start forcing her to "EAT YOUR PEAS!!!" if they really were hurting her. I dabbed a bit of all her food from the meal on different parts of her body. She got hives from the peas. RAST class 3.
Looking back, I can't believe I did that. Seems so dangerous. But, at the time, I couldn't even fathom that she was allergic to peas.
besides, wouldn't the "skin test at the dinner table" only work if they are contact sensitive?

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