Manufactured in a plant ingredients vs. May contain traces of nuts?

Posted on: Fri, 12/15/2000 - 3:55pm
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I am a new late night peanutallergy.com addict! My 3 year old son has peanut/pea/egg and bean allergies. We have recently introduced beans into his diet with no allergic reaction. With restrictions on so many foods, we try to find fun foods for him to enjoy. Many of the fun snack foods he eats are consistent with the foods discussed on the message board. ????Jelly Bellys! He has had these since junk food was allowed. I recently found out that the jelly belly bags in fine print state: Manufactured in a plant the processes peanuts. He still eats jelly bellys with no reaction (no peanut flavored or coconut ones). My question is two fold. 1. Does any other PA child eat these with no reaction or has anyone contacted the manufacturer to find out more? 2. Does anyone find that their PA child can eat items labeled manufactured in a plant that process peanuts, however, items saying may contain traces of nuts are not okay?

We are aware of cross contamination, and do not want to play russian roulette. However, I just feel some manufacturer's put this on the label to cover themselves legally.

Posted on: Sat, 01/13/2001 - 8:06am
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I have wondered the same thing but have been unable to come up with a good answer. My son, age 7, has been eating several products that have just recently started labeling with a warning. I found out on this board that Kit Kat bars are dependent on the plant that produces them - some produce in plants with other peanut products and some do not. good luck finding out, I'll keep my eyes and ears open.

Posted on: Sat, 01/13/2001 - 8:17am
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My 6 year old does eat jelly bellies. I only buy the fruit flavored assortment bags, so that I know there won't be any pb or nut flavored ones in the bag. I guess there is a risk, but this is what I feel comfortable with at this time. She has always enjoyed jelly bellies without a problem, and I just couldn't bring myself to take them away from her when they changed the label. Good luck!

Posted on: Sat, 01/13/2001 - 9:57am
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Welcome! I had posted a similar question to this about a month ago. It is under Main Discussion and it is entitled something like Do you think "may contain" and "manufactured in" are the same?
The reason I had asked this question was because where I'm living, I mostly see the "may contain" label. I rarely see the "manufactured in a facility that contains peanuts/nut products" label. So, when I did, I wanted some advice re this, as you do.
Now, the thread itself did get some good response, but what I considered invaluable
advice was from Chris at Peanutallergy.com.
He said that for him and his family, he considered them to be both the same. I'm not sure why Chris' opinion hit home for me rather than other PA parents I've been dealing with in discussion for over 8 months now, but it certainly weighed heavily in my decision to not let my PA son ingest a product with EITHER label.
There are also several different threads on this board discussing the actual percent of peanut products found in food products that are labeled a certain way. "May contain" has an 18% chance of actually containing a peanut product. I'm not clear about "manufactured in".
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Posted on: Sun, 01/14/2001 - 9:04am
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Regarding the Jelly Belly jelly beans, you can visit them at [url="http://www.jellybelly.com"]www.jellybelly.com[/url] and send them an e-mail regarding the safety of the fruit jelly beans. They have a great website.
As far as "may contain" or "manufactured in a plant that processes peanuts" I leave it in the store. This is our personal comfort zone.
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Posted on: Mon, 01/15/2001 - 8:25am
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Here is the response I received from Jelly Belly Jelly Beans!
Dear Connie:
We use peanut-based ingredients in our Peanut Butter flavored Jelly Belly jelly beans. It's one of our most popular flavors.
We know peanut allergies are a serious problem for some people who have to watch what they eat, so we clearly list Peanut Butter and Peanut Flour in our ingredient statements that can be found on the packages or bulk bin labels. We sell this flavor in bulk in our 20 Assorted Flavors mix and in our 39 Assorted Flavors mix.
None of the other flavors contain peanuts (or any other nuts) as an ingredient.
We feel it is important that you be aware that we produce all our Jelly Belly flavors on the same equipment. This means that it is possible for peanut oils or other peanut products to be transferred to any of our other candies. Therefore, we cannot guarantee that all flavors are 100% free of
peanut products. To be safe, we regret that we must recommend that you avoid all of our products.
Hope this is helpful.
Sweet Regards,
Mr. Jelly Belly
Chairman of the Bean
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[This message has been edited by Connie (edited January 15, 2001).]

Posted on: Mon, 01/15/2001 - 11:32am
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Leslie - I found a definitive list of percentages for "may contain" warnings. This was originally posted by NaomiR:
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Here is more information on the "may contain study":
18.2% (4 of 22) "may contain peanut" contained traces of peanut
12.5% (2 of 16) "manufacturer on shared equipment" contained traces of peanut
12.5% (1 of 8) "manufacturer in a facility that also processes peanut" contained traces of peanut
20.8% (5 of 24) where peanut was listed at the end of the ingredients list contained traces of peanuts
Peanut present was measured at concentrations from 1 to 2500 parts per million.
The study was done by LM Niemann, JJ Hlywka andSL Hefle and presented at this year's AAAAI meeting.
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Hope this helps. Carolyn

Posted on: Mon, 01/15/2001 - 1:14pm
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Cayley's Mom, I really appreciated the "definitive list" as I'm sure a lot of other people on this board will. Thank-you so much.
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Posted on: Tue, 01/16/2001 - 12:02am
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I wasn't going to reply to this post but after leaving it for a while I decided to come back and post something on this topic.
We have worked hard for many years (as have some non-profit educational based organizations such as FAAN, and many, many individuals) to get manufacturers to check their facilities and warn us if there is a possible health hazard for those with peanut allergy. I hope that you will keep yourselves safe by avoiding those manufacturers that label with a "may contain" statement, or a "manufactured in same facility as" type statement, or whatever warning they decide to use. Remember it is not a law in the USA that they label with a warning for us, there is not a standard they all follow so it is uniformed so we can tell what they really mean (unless you call each manufacturer and keep an up to date list of what their statement truly means). Many manufacturers worry about what their non-allergic customers will think when they see such a statement (dirty facility etc?) so some decide what wording to use on a product based on thoughts such as these.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE? IF A COMPANY IS LABELING, IT IS PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THERE IS A POSSIBILITY. I have only heard a few companies that might be labeling just to keep their lawyers happy, the majority are doing it to keep our community safe (and of course themselves out of the news and court cases etc.).
We know that many of us pick our own safety levels based on many factors, often our education level with the allergy (I usually find the more educated on the allergy, the more precautions one will take, this makes sense as those who have researched and follow closely the problems we need to be concerned with have more experience to base their decisions). Often we hear from people who have changed their ways after becoming more educated, this is good to hear! Like I always say, "Stay Safe".
I know how much work it can be and how inconvenient doing all that is necessary to keep a child truly as safe as possible really is. I know the heartache of not being able to give my child something they may want to try etc. I always tell myself that I am doing my job as a parent to keep my child safe, people have different health problems, ours is peanut allergy and sadly, these are the things we must do to "stay safe".
I could go on for hours on this topic, (I have been working on better labeling for years and have years of experience dealing with manufacturers: the reasons some will not put this type of label on their products, the cost excuses (they won't spend the money to find out if their factories are safe for people with peanut allergy) etc.
Sign up to be on the e mail list (and join as a member of PeanutAllergy.Com) to receive more information on this when we send it out.
Here is a link to the form page [url="http://www.peanutallergy.com/formpage.htm"]http://www.peanutallergy.com/formpage.htm[/url]
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[This message has been edited by Chris PeanutAllergy Com (edited January 16, 2001).]

Posted on: Tue, 01/16/2001 - 2:12am
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Chris, I wholeheartedly appreciate all the work you do for this community. I realize that your efforts on all of our behalf have brought much needed recognization of this allergy, and indeed, positive policy changes. If if weren't for you, I wouldn't even have this website to post on!
I want to share that it is not a lack of ecucation of this allergy that allows me to allow my daughter to eat jelly bellys. I am highly educated regarding pa. I have been a FAN member for over 5 years, and I spend time on this website nearly every day, keeping up with the latest information. My comfort zone is looser than many on this site. At the same time, I am sure that it is tighter than many other parents of pa kids. I am a cautious and very protective parent, and I realize that every situation in our lives carries risk. I take a great deal of comfort from the PA adults who post here. Often they convey the attitude that while we must be cautious with our kids, we also must be careful not to keep them in a bubble. (I almost hate to use that term because I know it may infuriate some parents; I just can't think of anything better right now!) This is really just the tip of the ice berg on this topic, but I felt that your last post needed a response.
Take care, and yes, definitely keep safe!

Posted on: Wed, 01/17/2001 - 2:43am
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Chris, in response to your post, and I think one line in particular, I do not believe that our comfort zones re PA are based on how educated we are about PA.
Now, I am not clear exactly how we each come up with our own comfort zones - does it depend on the severity of our child's reactions (I think in my case the answer to that would be no) or other things. I'm really not clear. However, I am clear that it has nothing to do with how educated one is re PA, for me at least anyway, and obviously also for California Mom above.
Chris, we all appreciate the work that you do on behalf of PA sufferers. When you come in and actually post (and I have seen you doing more of it lately), I do think that because you are who you are that your words are given more weight.
Your post had great room in which for it to be misinterpreted that if anyone's comfort zone was less strict than yours and Patty's, that we were less educated re PA. I am sure this is not what you meant, but there was some space left in there for misinterpretation which I'm sure you did not intend.
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