Why us and immunizations?

Posted on: Sun, 02/08/2015 - 3:30am
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Allergic friends, I need to know how everyone feels about this. Last night a friend on FB posted one of those If I cant bring Peanuts to school why can your kid bring in diseases because they are not fully immunized. I asked what does my kids allergy have to do this? There were some intelligent answers about protecting all children but if that's the case why did I have to pull my son out of school because they failed to protect him? Why are our NA/PA kids getting pulled into the middle of this debate? Are we the easy mark because people have see it as difficult to accommodate our children allergies and protect them? Are we low hanging fruit that get lopped in with any issue that involves banning something at school?

Posted on: Tue, 02/10/2015 - 2:25pm
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I posed this exact same question on my FB page. What does vaccines have to do with my child's life threatening PA? It infuriates me.

Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 1:32am
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It is so frustrating when we have to justify safety versus convenience. Furthermore, it is frustrating when our children and their allergies become the poster kids for asking others to make any herculean compromise. Zac's Dad is correct, it is unfair.
Taking a step back, the fundamental issue is keeping ALL children safe at school. For the mother of a peanut-butter fanatic, changing her child's lunch is an ordeal, and I have am truly grateful to those parents who have changed their lifestyles and their children's lunches to accomodate my child.
To immunize or not to immunize can be a very personal issue. Having lived overseas, I am a fundmentalist when it comes to making sure my children are immunized. The parent that chooses not to immunize may believe that they are protecting their child. Ironically, they have the safety to pursue this belief when the majority of the population is immunized, thus reducing their child's exposure to the disease.
It comes down to how we define and enforce saftey for ALL children. If a particular substance could be harmful, whether an allergen, biological or chemical agent, we should eliminate it or contain it. Just as some on this forum have made the decision to remove their children from unsafe classrooms, the anti-immunization parent can make the same decision if immunizations are required in public schools. As parents, it is up to us to determine whether a given environment is safe for our children, advocate for their safety and, if necessary, remove them.

Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 8:48am
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Question of the Week: Answered!
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention. You’ve brought up a concern that many parents of children with food allergies have - and rightly so.
According to Dr. O’Shea, vaccines may be responsible for the increasing prevalence of food allergies. You can learn more about how peanut oil became widely used in vaccines here.
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Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:04am
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Thank you ...I copy and pasted this with some edits and tried to get some discussions going on the subject.

Posted on: Sun, 02/15/2015 - 10:54am
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Per the following report by the California Department of Public Health:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm64e0213a1.htm
28 out of 110 (25%) of the patients "were intentionally unvaccinated because of personal beliefs".
47 out of 110 (43%) had "unknown or undocumented vaccination status".
8 out of 110 (7%) had 2 or more doses of the vaccine.
12 out of 110 (11%) too young to be vaccinated.
The media seems to be focused on 25% of the problem while ignoring the other 75%.

Posted on: Wed, 02/18/2015 - 4:18am
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PeanutAllergy.com you have provided a TERRIBLE answer that is not based on SOUND evidence. There is NOT peanut oil in vaccines and you are perpetuating this fear of vaccines. Please check your sources. Dr. O'Shea is a holistic ANTI-vaccine "doctor". I really question now any PA.com advice given on this site now. CHOP is a world-reknowned expert hospital on child health and vaccinations and this is their comment http://vec.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/vaccine-ingredients/ You can also find ALL vaccine components in the CDC Pink Book and vaccine package inserts.
Now in regards to the original posting, I see the friend's post regarding PA and vaccines as a pro. They are saying that we even restrict peanuts to protect children, why are we not restricting children who could bring severe disease into our schools. I suppose it's all up to interpretation.

Posted on: Wed, 02/18/2015 - 4:18am
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PeanutAllergy.com you have provided a TERRIBLE answer that is not based on SOUND evidence. There is NOT peanut oil in vaccines and you are perpetuating this fear of vaccines. Please check your sources. Dr. O'Shea is a holistic ANTI-vaccine "doctor". I really question now any PA.com advice given on this site now. CHOP is a world-reknowned expert hospital on child health and vaccinations and this is their comment http://vec.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/vaccine-ingredients/ You can also find ALL vaccine components in the CDC Pink Book and vaccine package inserts.
How do you justify your response?

Posted on: Wed, 02/18/2015 - 11:50am
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Many vaccines and the Vitamin K1 shot given to every
newborn, contain Polysorbate 80.
This injectable grade Polysorbate 80 datasheet:
http://askavantor.force.com/servlet/fileField?id=0BEG0000000TSTm
says:
“Rev. 7; March 30, 2011 – Section 4: Added peanuts
to the Allergen list; Corrected residual
solvents info for Ethylene glycol; minor formatting. (JLW) ”
So Avantor was unable to guarantee that this Polysorbate 80 was not
contaminated with peanuts, before 2011.
Today, you will see Avantor specifically claiming their product is of
non-peanut origin.
Documented evidence of peanut proteins contaminating vaccines/injections.
Also, the FDA package insert, CDC pink book are not the complete list. As you can see, excipients such as Polysorbate 80, sorbitol are from various food sources.
Such contamination is not documented.
There is also no specification or regulation of such contaminants. The FDA, US Pharmacopeia and Sanofi Pasteur have confirmed this to me.
Even the pharmaceutical companies are surprised by this lack of regulation as shown here:
http://www.excipientfest.com/europe/pdf/EFE14%20June%2024,%20A1%20The%20Joint%20IPEC-PQG%20GMP%20Guide.pdf
Slide 6:
“How is excipient
manufacture regulated?
• To the surprise of many the
manufacture and supply of excipients
is unregulated by any agency
• European legislation puts the onus on
the user, the MA holder to ensure that
starting materials are of a ‘suitable’
standard”

Posted on: Thu, 02/19/2015 - 3:19am
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I think everyone missed my point. Why does a PA kid get compared to a child that is not immunized? They are not connected at all.

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