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Posted on: Wed, 04/07/2004 - 9:57am
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Quote:Originally posted by Alternative to Mainstream:
[b](the part about Sweetworks' history of contract manufacturing for giants of the industry such as Hershey, M&M/Mars and Nestle)
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It is [b]very[/b] likely Sweetworks has been making Sixlets for quite some time. And if they were pa safe - it is possible for them to continue making them pa safe.
This is a fight worth fighting, and as with Nestle - it needs to be done [b]before[/b] nuts/peanuts enter the plant.

Posted on: Wed, 04/07/2004 - 10:01am
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Quote:Originally posted by erik:
[b] However, the reason I give an answer of "no" is because I do not think that the ability of a candy company to manufacture items in a peanut/nut-free facility could be due to their ability to sell items with peanuts/nuts (made in separate facilities).
As my example, I would use [b]Nestle Canada[/b]. All of Nestle Canada's top selling bars are nut-free/peanut-free. Aero, Kit Kat, Mirage, Smarties, Rolo, Coffee Crisp... all made in nut-free/peanut-free facilities. The bars that they do sell with nuts/peanuts (Butterfinger, Turtles, etc) make up a small fraction of their sales are are not top-sellers in Canada.
If Nestle was to eliminate their chocolate bars that contained peanuts/nuts, it would not have any affect on their ability to manufacture items in a nut-free/peanut-free facility.
Of course, Nestle Canada would not want to elminate all of the chocolate bars with nuts/peanuts, as they want to compete with Cadbury, M&M/Mars, and Hershey for market share and wouldn't want to lose the nut/peanut lovers. However, Nestle's nut/peanut confections are by no means necessary in order for them to provide peanut-free/nut-free products.
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In light of this assumption, I'm still trying to figure out why a company like Hershey would eliminate one item like Sixlets. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] I mean, was it pulling it's weight financially? I mean, what profit margin is in candy sales? Can even one item make a significant difference? [i]Regardless of how many "top sellers" there are. [/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img] I tend never to underestimate the power of a single item.

Posted on: Wed, 04/07/2004 - 10:13am
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Quote:Originally posted by Alternative to Mainstream:
[b]It's a *good* thing you have the metabolism you do, isn't it? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
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Definitely.

Posted on: Wed, 04/07/2004 - 10:26am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]Is "Nestle Canada" in any way connected financially to "Nestle USA"? I don't know.
Was "Nestle USA" in existance before "Nestle Canada" or visa versa, or simultaneously? I don't know.[/b]
Hi Momma Bear,
Nestle SA is a SWISS based company. It's head office is in Switzerland. Nestle USA and Nestle Canada are both subsidiaries of Nestle SA of Switzerland.
There is no financial link between Nestle USA and Nestle Canada. They are autonomous of each other, and both report independently to Nestle SA of Switzerland.
Nestle SA of SWitzerland began operations in 1867. Nestle USA existed before Nestle Canada. The first Nestle plant in the USA started operating in 1900, while the first Nestle plant in Canada started operating in 1918. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 04/07/2004 - 10:36am
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Quote:Originally posted by erik:
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Hi Momma Bear,
Nestle SA is a SWISS based company. It's head office is in Switzerland. Nestle USA and Nestle Canada are both subsidiaries of Nestle SA of Switzerland.
There is no financial link between Nestle USA and Nestle Canada. They are autonomous of each other, and both report independently to Nestle SA of Switzerland.
Nestle SA of SWitzerland began operations in 1867. Nestle USA existed before Nestle Canada. The first Nestle plant in the USA started operating in 1900, while the first Nestle plant in Canada started operating in 1918. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Is Nestle SA of Switzerland Peanut/Nut Free? [i]Are they even still around?[/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 04/07/2004 - 10:41am
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Quote:Originally posted by AnnaMarie:
[b] This is a fight worth fighting, and as with Nestle - it needs to be done before nuts/peanuts enter the plant.[/b]
Hi Anna Marie,
I think Sweetworks already has peanuts in their chocolate facility. I checked out the on-line store for their St. Augustine manufacturing facility (Whetstone):
[url="http://www.whetstonecandy.com/productlistings.htm"]http://www.whetstonecandy.com/productlistings.htm[/url]
They have chocolate products and fudge made with peanut butter, peanuts, pecans, walnuts, almonds, cashews, and brazil nuts, plus for Easter they make peanut butter eggs.
So I can understand why Sweetworks puts an allergy warning on Sixlets, as the manufacturing facilty is filled with nuts and peanut butter. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
(it is possible they manufacture Sixlets in a different facility, but froim what I;ve found, their chocolate products use nuts, peanuts, and peanut butter quite frequently)
[This message has been edited by erik (edited April 07, 2004).]

Posted on: Wed, 04/07/2004 - 10:53am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b] Is Nestle SA of Switzerland Peanut/Nut Free? [i]Are they even still around?[/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
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Nestle SA (the head office of Nestle) is not peanut free. On the web site it is written:
[i]Nestl

Posted on: Wed, 04/07/2004 - 11:08am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b] In light of this assumption, I'm still trying to figure out why a company like Hershey would eliminate one item like Sixlets. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] I mean, was it pulling it's weight financially? [/b]
I am not sure either..
maybe it just didn't fit in with their other products.. they manufacture a lot of chocolate bars, so maybe it is not economical for them to manufacture Sixlets since the manufacturing process would be quite different from that used to maufacture chocolate bars.
Hershey still has a license to sell Sixlets if they pay Sweetworks to manufacture them. Maybe they just wanted to outsource the manufacturing and that's why they sold the brand.

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