just a small vent

Posted on: Fri, 06/08/2007 - 12:55pm
psufan1996's picture
Joined: 06/03/2007 - 09:00

This week I have spent a great deal of time getting educated about PA. My daughter goes to daycare and they have a peanut free policy. However, I decided that I wanted to read all the labels anyway. I go over to the kitchen staff and ask to see the boxes of the products I was concerned about. Well, this woman would not let me in "her kitchen because she would never serve peanuts because they are peanut free". I tried to nicely explain cross-contamination to her, but she just would not get it. Finally, she sniped that she threw away the boxes so there was nothing to read anyway. I asked her when the next delivery was and she said Tuesday. She then stated that I would need administration permission to enter the kitchen. So, now really mad, I stormed the assistant director's office. Needless to say, I have an appointment to read all the boxes Tuesday afternoon. At least the teachers have been great, and even though they have a general policy of no outside food, I have arranged alternative snacks if needed with the head teacher. I just was so mad at the lady in the kitchen!

Do you ever get used to people not "getting it"?


Posted on: Fri, 06/08/2007 - 1:05pm
Peanut Militia's picture
Joined: 03/06/2007 - 09:00

(my shortest post)

Posted on: Fri, 06/08/2007 - 1:22pm
SpudBerry's picture
Joined: 07/23/2002 - 09:00

She might be a bear for you to deal with - but in some ways that is exactly who you want running the kitchen. You now know that she isn't the type of person to let some other parent decide to have her serve some of their home made treats. And it sounds like she might be enough of a soup-nazi to always stick to the recipe, and the same supplier, etc.
So even though it's a pain your back side for now - in the long run she might be just the right person to be in your child's school's kitchen.
Or she could be just a (*bleep*) and have no redeeming qualities at all - but I've gotta at least hope there is a good side to having her around!
Mom to 7 year old twins Ben & Mike
One PA since 13 months
One PA since 7 years
Stay Informed And Peanut Free!

Posted on: Fri, 06/08/2007 - 1:56pm
ceross's picture
Joined: 01/27/2004 - 09:00

Can you pack lunch and snacks for your child? You might need a doctor's note but it might be less nerve-racking. After you read the labels on Tuesday, will you be allowed to read them each day and will you be informed of substitutions. We pack lunch for DD and try to match what we serve her to what is being served at school. I cannot tell you how many times the menu's changed without any advance notice.

Posted on: Sat, 06/09/2007 - 12:00am
lakeswimr's picture
Joined: 02/01/2007 - 09:00

That doesn't sound good *at all*! If she really knows what she is doing that is one thing but if she doesn't and just thinks she does that isn't safe at all. I would *never* turn over the responsibility to read food labels of things *my child* is going to eat over to a stranger. I trust my mom and myself. One day it will be DS's job. I would not allow that policy to continue or I would choose another school. NOt safe in my opinion.

Posted on: Sat, 06/09/2007 - 12:16am
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Kitchens are often off-limits to anyone that doesn't need to be there. And in her opinion you don't need to be. You were definitely right to go over her head -- but, it means she won't be letting someone else in for a silly reason, and they contaminate things.
However, I am always bothered when packaging is thrown out. If there is a recall, she won't know to check if it includes what she has.

Posted on: Sat, 06/09/2007 - 12:37am
Adele's picture
Joined: 01/31/2005 - 09:00

I think some people are offended that you don't 'trust' them.
Shortly after I was diagnosed with PA, I spent a few days with friends in California. My friend questioned me about what I could eat. While she was making dinner that evening, I asked if I could read the box for a rice dish she was serving.
I reached for the box. She grabbed it out of my hand and held it behind her back, and said, 'you don't trust me!'
I tried explaining about weird ingredients like lecithin, etc. but she was really offended.
A year ago, she was diagnosed with celiac and has become the queen of label reading. One of these days I will remind her about the time she wouldn't let me read the rice box.
People just don't understand that it's not as simple as looking for peanuts in the ingredients - that we also have to watch for other wording such as arachis or unspecified lecithin.
[This message has been edited by Adele (edited June 09, 2007).]

Posted on: Sat, 06/09/2007 - 12:51am
Carefulmom's picture
Joined: 01/03/2002 - 09:00

At that age I never would have allowed dd to eat something unless I had read the label myself. Now that she is older she reads her own labels, but the rule still stands that she does not eat it unless she or I has read the label. I would not even bother to go into their kitchen on Tuesday. I would start sending my child`s food and get a doctor`s note if necessary. The most common location for death from anaphylaxis in children is in school, and the most common reason is because the school made a mistake.
There are certain errors we cannot control, such as when a company makes a mistake with their labeling, so our child has a reaction. There are certain things we can control, like the chance of the school making a mistake. I`d eliminate that possiblilty and start sending my child`s food every day.
By the way, my dd is 12. I cannot even count the number of times other adults have told her something was safe when it wasn`t.

Posted on: Sat, 06/09/2007 - 4:20am
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Joined: 12/14/2006 - 09:00

I think, like the poster above, I would provide my child with their own food. If the kitchen lady is upset or hiding boxes/lables from you, then that's not food I'd want my child to eat. I go into our lunchroom kitchen weekely and I am always welcome. I even stand in the walk-in-freezer quite often!!! Because they work with me and are so friendly, I do allow my son to eat the hot lunch. If it were *ANY* other way...no way would he eat their food(he brings his own snack everyday but is allowed to eat hot lunch). Everyone's comfort level is different, many would say no hot lunch period...but if the kitchen staff was this difficult, that would help me decide right qick what my comfort level was going to be. Good luck, hopefully Tuesday she will change her tune!!
Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 (beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 (peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-3 1/2 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
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