In Good Hands.

Posted on: Tue, 01/24/2006 - 6:54am
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Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

What role, if any does faith play for you in "living with Peanut Allergy"?

[b]Psalm 91[/b]

[i]11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. [/i]

for me, I can't live without it. No matter how much I [i]micromanage[/i]. Research. Plan. Worry. Get angry. Debate. No matter whom I enlist or enlist with. No matter how [i]well[/i] I feel I've done.

At some point, *I* realize not everything is in my hands.

How about you?

Posted on: Tue, 01/24/2006 - 7:19am
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Joined: 04/16/2005 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]What role, if any does faith play for you in "living with Peanut Allergy"?
[b]Psalm 91[/b]
[i]11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. [/i]
for me, I can't live without it. No matter how much I [i]micromanage[/i]. Research. Plan. Worry. Get angry. Debate. No matter whom I enlist or enlist with. No matter how [i]well[/i] I feel I've done.
At some point, *I* realize not everything is in my hands.
How about you?[/b]
I would have to say that faith plays a great deal in every aspect of my life. But by that I probably mean something much different than most folk.
Going out on a limb here, but yes I would agree that not everything is in my hands. But then I would also say that DS' PA is also not in God's hands either, in the sense that God is controlling DS' PA (to clarify: I do not believe God is controlling DS' PA).
It's in God's hands in that God is embracing DS throughout every step, holding DS, no matter what happens. But my understanding of God is not one where God decides outcomes and causes them. My understanding of God is not of God "out there somewhere at all" causing things in here but is more, as Tillich would say, a "ground of being." This is not new stuff--it's neo-orthodoxy.
I had a nephew who died of leukemia. He was six and was diagnosed when he was four. People used to tell me that we just needed to pray harder. Like if we just prayed harder God would take this horrible thing away. And they would talk about how God caused this. And how God "took him home." I don't believe any of that. I believe God was with him and us every single beautiful and painful moment holding us up and embracing us. But God didn't put the leukemia there.
And he didn't put the PA there--a much, much better thing than leukemia any day.
About Psalm 91? I love that psalm. DH and I sing hymns to DS every night at bedtime, and one that I sing every few weeks or so is "On Eagles Wings" based on that psalm. I typically sing more traditional hymns, but Psalm 91 is special to me.
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Posted on: Tue, 01/24/2006 - 7:29am
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Thanks to my...experiences (thinking about Mom who knows my username *sigh*) I am definitely non-Christian.
Nothing wrong with it for others, I understand that many derive enormous comfort in same, just not for me, thanks for not trying to convert me, this is not an uninformed choice, KWIM? (I know that prosetylization is part and parcel of evangelical faith, and frankly, relations within my family would be much simpler if it weren't.) What ticks me off is the notion that I need saving in order to be whole or "good" somehow. Prosetylization of those who have other faiths is just plain disrespectful. (vent having to do with family situation over)
I am a Taoist and I think I would categorize my husband as a Deist. (This line of thought is also referred to as "God as master watchmaker.")
Spirituality is a marvelous thing. But I don't feel that has much to do with religious "faith," necessarily. I am glad that I was raised on religious diversity and with avid curiousity since that gave me a great foundation for making an informed choice, BTW. We intend to do likewise with our child.
I don't find that I personally get a lot of comfort from a spiritual sense of "letting go and letting God" though I am very familiar with that, as my mother certainly does. I am more like my Dad's family-- none of whom have ever been able to derive comfort in it. I find my brain picks at the innate inconsistancies in faith-based understanding of things-- it chafes my brain.
Do I think there is some "big plan?" No I don't. I could be a deist, but I don't see any reason for that either. I do think that it is all too complicated for ME personally to see and understand all the connections that exist and drive things that happen. (It's a big old goofy world, in other words!)
The taoist line of thought here is that anything you have to truly STRUGGLE at is NOT supposed to be happening, and won't be sustainable. Balance, and the natural flow of things is the route to contentment. I am under no illusions that I have control-- even if I don't necessarily think that anyone else does either!
I can let go rationally if I recognize that they either cannot be changed or cannot be changed by my own actions. I control only me, in other words. I don't need a god in order to have that sense of peace. But I have no problem with those who do have that kind of spirituality.
What matters is that you have some worldview that matters to YOU and gives YOU peace.
I don't think that either of us finds our faith much help in dealing with PA, but it is hard to say for sure. Not directly, the way a Christian belief works, I think. Indirectly, however, tao dictates how I deal with the situation in a more global kind of way, so yes. I experience a lot of inner tranquility and appreciation of the everyday "good things", and I like that.
I don't think Santa Claus is real either, but that doesn't keep me from enjoying Christmas celebrations with those who do. [img][/img] And I don't think less of people who choose to beleive in Santa. Wish I could sometimes, too, 'cuz it looks like a lot of fun.
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Posted on: Tue, 01/24/2006 - 8:19am
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What role, if any, does faith play?
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Posted on: Tue, 01/24/2006 - 8:41am
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Joined: 08/24/2005 - 09:00

CSC, you stole my answer!!!
Ditto ...... None.

Posted on: Tue, 01/24/2006 - 10:41am
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Joined: 12/22/2005 - 09:00

It plays ALOT...
I don't have to wonder about HIM, I don't have to overthink HIM. He is there, he is real and he is mine and can be yours, too...
I do tend to micromanage the allergy thing...but every once in awhile I must remind myself to Let Go and Let God. Faith/religion is not about whether it 'works' for me, it is about whether or not I work for HIM.
You know, I pray for healing and I know it will happen, I just don't know when or where. I look forward to the day I will see my relatives that have gone before me, I look forward to seeing the One that made me. I will smile and fall into His arms, I will be so happy that there will be no illness cancer, no allergy. Just beautiful breath of Heaven. relaxes me to know He is in control. So I ramble plays alot in to living with PA (TNA).
DD, 5, TNA
DS, 18 mo. EA, MA

Posted on: Tue, 01/24/2006 - 8:56pm
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

For me, I think a lot. I firmly believe there IS a divine plan.
There have been several "moments" in my life that serve as a reminder to me that there is such a plan. Remembering a time when I was 12 years old and working in my best friend's mother's deli. Half the deli was an ice cream stand and one day a customer came up to me and asked me, "Is that Butter Pecan?" It wasn't--it was Butter Almond. I was never a nut lover and really didn't know the difference between an almond and a pecan--it all tasted the same to me so I simply nodded yes.
My best friend piped up, "Oh no, that is Butter Almond, NOT Butter Pecan." I looked at her with that "Huh?!?!" expression, and she said, "X! You MUST tell customers exactly what nut is in there! Some people are very allergic to certain things and can get very sick and might have to go the hospital."
When she said that, I realized I had done something terribly wrong. Most kids would have long forgotten an incident like that, but I remember it as clearly as the day it happened. That day would come back to me, and it did--in the form of a peanut.
Just like after I had Ryan. There was a strong, nagging feeling inside me that I should resign from my job. After a two-year leave, I did resign. Good thing since I would have had an undiagnosed child with a peanut allergy in day care full time. Gosh, Ryan could have died in a situation like that. Too scary to even think about. It was another full year until we realized he had a peanut allergy.
There are many other incidents like this for me, which leads me to believe that all these things are divinely intertwined. Too much of a coincidence, IMO
Although I wouldn't wish a food allergy on anyone, it has actually greatly enriched my life.
So overall, yes, I believe we are "In Good Hands."

Posted on: Wed, 01/25/2006 - 12:00am
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Joined: 12/30/2005 - 09:00

I couldn't say it any better than Jill and Ryan's Mom. I agree wholeheartedly with them!
I find that I have been on a roller coaster of emotions with ds's allergies. The only thing that brings me peace and leveling-out of my emotions is knowing that my Heavenly Father is much more capable of taking care of my child than I am, even though I do all I can and know to do. He made him and He is the one who knows about what causes his body to react to what, where the allergen may be hiding, who may expose my child, etc.
I respect others who choose not to believe. However, I can't imagine going through the hardships of life without God! And I'm glad I don't have to!
Jamie - mom to:
Morgan (dd-13) - NKA
Ethan (10) - asthma, enviromental allergies
Carson (5) - PA/TNA/EA/Soy
- enviromental allergies, slight asthma?
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Posted on: Wed, 01/25/2006 - 1:01am
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Joined: 01/31/2005 - 09:00

No faith in the traditional sense. I'm not new-age either, but my mind is open to things undiscovered in the universe.
Scientists talk of parallel universes, string theory, bending or warping space and the physical rules that tie our universe together. I am in awe of the possibiities that our small brains can't even conceive.
So who am I to say that this is all there is?

Posted on: Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:50am
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

Quote:Originally posted by Adele:
[b]Scientists talk of parallel universes, string theory, bending or warping space and the physical rules that tie our universe together. I am in awe of the possibiities that our small brains can't even conceive.
I absolutely believe in this above paragraph. This is quantum physics. We can only understand and comprehend a certain number of dimensions. Beyond that, anything is possible.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 6:49am
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Joined: 05/28/2003 - 09:00

I have a feeling that Psalm 91 is not the same as what Im thinking of, IRT Psalm 69.
Though Jesus build my hotrod... vroom vroom
[b]* Obsessed * [/b]


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