I don\'t know if these were reactions

Posted on: Tue, 07/25/2006 - 5:30pm
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When traveling recently, I bought my son a bagel at a bagel store. I asked about egg and peanuts etc. and was satisfied with their answers.
He mostly licked the cream cheese off of the bagel. A while latere we walked back to the place we were staying and he got the runs and threw up a little bit.

Normally Miles will break out in hives when he's reacting to something but he didn't this time! I don't know if it was a reaction or not. Does anyone find that the symptoms of a reaction will change? Or for the most part do the symptoms stay the same (at least in the beginning of a reaction) from reaction to reaction?

A few days ago at a friends house he suddenly broke out in hives and I have no idea why. He ate food I brought for him so I don't know what the heck is going on! These random incidents have me racking my brain and freaked out at the same time.

Posted on: Tue, 07/25/2006 - 9:51pm
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Hi,
My reactions, GI/cardio/resp, are very predictable. I do not usually get hives.
Travelling? Changes in water and just more exposure to general viruses will elicit vomiting/diarrhea.
But be extra careful in other people's homes. Even if you bring your own food, nut proteins stay on a surface until they are cleaned off.
Good luck on your move,
Daisy

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 1:43am
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Did they use a clean knife for the cream cheese? Did they use a clean knife *last* time they used the cream cheese? I can imagine them using the PB and then wiping the knife "clean" on the bagel and dipping in the cream cheese at some point. Did the mystery hives appear after the bagel? Could have been a delayed reaction. If it was not related to the bagel, I would suspect a contact reaction. My DD has had hives when visiting people's houses several times.
Cathy
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Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 3 1/2 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.
[This message has been edited by Momcat (edited July 26, 2006).]

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 8:57am
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Well, this may not help, but let me say this: DS has had different reactions to peanut--his throat closed once when he swallowed peanut flour and mole (with nuts). And he threw up after having chips fried in regular peanut oil (not cold pressed). And he's had hives around his mouth after eating Chick Fil A.
I myself have different reactions for different allergies. I have GI reactions (cramps and diarrhea) after eating shellfish. And after eating sesame, my eustachian tubes swell a bit. Both start out with a bit of spaciness. With chamomile, things swell up and my nose runs (after putting lotion on my hands, my hands swelled, my tongue and lips swelled, and my nose ran like a faucet).
I would very, very strongly suspect the bagel, knowing my own GI reactions.
BTW--my GI reactions happen either 20 minutes or 2 hours after ingestion, if that's any help.

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 10:55am
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milosmom,
I just posted a similar question!
My PA son... I consider ANYthing even remotely LIKE a reaction, a reaction with him.
What I posted today was about my nonFA son. I'm asking all the same kinds of questions you are. I'm at a loss.
So, I guess to answer your question, I'd consider what you posted reactions.

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 1:23pm
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thanks guys!
with the bagel he had no hives just a little vomit and the runs which is abnormal for him, but when at another friend's house eating food i brought for him that he eats all the time he had hives- which is his known reaction. Momcat, immediately after he threw up I suspected that the knife may not have been more than wiped clean.
I guess I didn't want to think of this as a reaction (the vomiting etc) because I really am doing the very best I can to avoid reactions so he can have a better chance of outgrowing the allergy and it would kill me if I allowed something to screw that up.
Thanks for the well wishes Daisy, the movers come tomorrow although we have no where to move into yet as the house fell through so I am flying out without the kids this weekend to look again (and am scared spitless about leaving the boy here alone with my parents for more than 2 days)...

Posted on: Tue, 07/25/2006 - 9:51pm
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Hi,
My reactions, GI/cardio/resp, are very predictable. I do not usually get hives.
Travelling? Changes in water and just more exposure to general viruses will elicit vomiting/diarrhea.
But be extra careful in other people's homes. Even if you bring your own food, nut proteins stay on a surface until they are cleaned off.
Good luck on your move,
Daisy

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 1:43am
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Did they use a clean knife for the cream cheese? Did they use a clean knife *last* time they used the cream cheese? I can imagine them using the PB and then wiping the knife "clean" on the bagel and dipping in the cream cheese at some point. Did the mystery hives appear after the bagel? Could have been a delayed reaction. If it was not related to the bagel, I would suspect a contact reaction. My DD has had hives when visiting people's houses several times.
Cathy
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Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 3 1/2 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.
[This message has been edited by Momcat (edited July 26, 2006).]

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 8:57am
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Well, this may not help, but let me say this: DS has had different reactions to peanut--his throat closed once when he swallowed peanut flour and mole (with nuts). And he threw up after having chips fried in regular peanut oil (not cold pressed). And he's had hives around his mouth after eating Chick Fil A.
I myself have different reactions for different allergies. I have GI reactions (cramps and diarrhea) after eating shellfish. And after eating sesame, my eustachian tubes swell a bit. Both start out with a bit of spaciness. With chamomile, things swell up and my nose runs (after putting lotion on my hands, my hands swelled, my tongue and lips swelled, and my nose ran like a faucet).
I would very, very strongly suspect the bagel, knowing my own GI reactions.
BTW--my GI reactions happen either 20 minutes or 2 hours after ingestion, if that's any help.

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 10:55am
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milosmom,
I just posted a similar question!
My PA son... I consider ANYthing even remotely LIKE a reaction, a reaction with him.
What I posted today was about my nonFA son. I'm asking all the same kinds of questions you are. I'm at a loss.
So, I guess to answer your question, I'd consider what you posted reactions.

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 1:23pm
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thanks guys!
with the bagel he had no hives just a little vomit and the runs which is abnormal for him, but when at another friend's house eating food i brought for him that he eats all the time he had hives- which is his known reaction. Momcat, immediately after he threw up I suspected that the knife may not have been more than wiped clean.
I guess I didn't want to think of this as a reaction (the vomiting etc) because I really am doing the very best I can to avoid reactions so he can have a better chance of outgrowing the allergy and it would kill me if I allowed something to screw that up.
Thanks for the well wishes Daisy, the movers come tomorrow although we have no where to move into yet as the house fell through so I am flying out without the kids this weekend to look again (and am scared spitless about leaving the boy here alone with my parents for more than 2 days)...

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