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Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 1:23am
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Oh my. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img]
I had already printed up certain pages of this thread for our records & to use particular passages and "quotable quotes" in our arguments with the school.
But just printing "Page 1" of this thread took 34 pieces of paper. Please forgive me, Mother Nature.
~Eliz

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 2:54am
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Does this mean I've been Draconian for, um, 8 years?
Oh well. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
To me, I actually see it the other way. It would be Draconian for me to provide a safe treat box.
I was up all night puking my guts out with one of the most vicious migraines I have had in years, so I will return later, but honestly, truly, do not believe what I am reading in this thread, for the most part.
I'm shocked. But then again, I'm Canadian. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
Please everyone, visit [url="http://www.cbc.ca"]www.cbc.ca[/url] and check out Rick Mercer. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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There but for the Grace of God, go I.

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 3:18am
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Elizabeth....
I don't know whether to laugh or cry... or both!!
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img] (For your post you don't want quoted)
O.M.G!!!!! That is one of the most absurd things I have EVER-- and I do mean EVER-- heard.
(Wonder if they know who Carlos Mencia is? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] He has a term for people who do things like..... ummm, introducing high-fat, high-calorie foods into PE.)
Remind me again what the obesity rate is in your state? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img]
Gaaaa.

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 3:20am
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Is there room in Draconia for me? I'm ready for a move!
Safe snack boxes aren't a panacea. We had one for 3 years. And you know what one of my son's favorite things to do when he comes home from school on the last day of the year is? Eat the contents of his safe snack box. He and his brother get to split them. HOOOOORAH!
Count yourself lucky if you have a good teacher THIS YEAR. Count yourself lucky if you have a good principal THIS YEAR. Find security in that snack box if it worked for you LAST YEAR.... and if they use it this year again.... well, maybe you will think you are lucky again.
Complacency, getting comfortable, providing outs......... hopefully that works for people. But when the #hit hits the fan, and you have to go back through, see what precedent YOU'VE set to support what YOU have to do for YOUR child. When you get stuck dealing with people that aren't the TEACHER or PRINCIPAL that you think are great now, or from last year, you might end up thinking differently.
And honestly, if I could post more details I would. Because I think some things people could take as warnings. To learn from. To see the things that we have done that have helped when your great teacher, or principal, aren't there the next year. And to see the mistakes we've made.... so that you don't repeat them.
Now, I guess I need to go shopping for a new outfit. Draconia seems to have more extreme weather.............

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 3:34am
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I'm so sorry Eliz, such evil strategy these cupcakes queens are capable of. To set out to willfully exclude a child, in the name of birthday fun, is unbelievable.

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 4:01am
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Last night I managed to cry in the shower long enough to drain a 60-gallon hot water heater, with no help from dishwasher or laundry running.
This after I stood at the foot of my son's bed and told him that we would do everything we could to work to have him fully included in at-school events. I again reminded him that not ALL of life is fair, and that we must all work toward accepting those things which we truly cannot change. And I told him he could always come to us when he felt he was not being treated fairly -- and that we would listen and help in all ways we believed to be appropriate. And my boy -- the one who normally just wants a good night peck on the cheek -- my 65-pound "little" boy crawled across the bed and into my arms, squeezed me as tight as he could, and with a kiss on my cheek, he whispered [i]thank you, Mommy. [/i]
~Eliz, thanks for listening

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 4:12am
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Quote:Originally posted by ajas_folks:
[b]Last night I managed to cry in the shower long enough to drain a 60-gallon hot water heater, with no help from dishwasher or laundry running.
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ajasfolks, gvmom, please read this thread, (paying in particular attention to [b]The Cupcake Incident[/b], which involved a "circumvent the plan" strategy, much similiar to the one Z describes. Probably exactly the same.
[url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum7/HTML/001880.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum7/HTML/001880.html[/url]
gvmom, I believe the 3 page interaction in that thread lay at the very heart of this thread. I'm noting with glee, once again, that I managed to get the premeditated violation of my child's IEP documented as [i]an incident report[/i] and placed on permanent file/record. Still remembering the teacher telling me in plain view/earshot [i]of the office staff and visitors[/i].: "I'd do it again."
U-huh. Yeah, sure you would. I bet.
And I'm no betting woman.

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 4:58am
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EB--I'm very sorry to hear about your issues.
In PE???????????????????????????
Let me say, though, that if those food-filled birthday celebrations are going to happen, I think the cafeteria IS the best place. There's already unsafe stuff being eaten there. The cupcakes are kept out of the classroom.
It's how we've had it in Texas the last few years, since the passing of that law, and I think it's WAAAAAY better than how it will be now in my new home. I'd give anything for cupcakes in the cafeteria once again, in fact--if they are at the school at all.
And I must say I'm surprised that in the fourth grade, cupcakes are still a presence. Did I say "presence?" I meant to say "bane"--that they are still part of our lives at all. But they apparently are part of my DS' life at school this year, so if they are there, I'd rather they be in the cafeteria.
That this was somehow supposed to be sneaked past you is truly horrific, though. And that your child must be realizing the value place on those stupid cupcakes seems to be greater than the value placed on his inclusion is just . . . profoundly sad.

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 9:56am
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I occasionally peek in here (in this thread) to lurk and read and learn. Interesting thread--very interesting.
Elizabeth,
It happened to my dd last year too. The teacher would get around the tree nut/ peanut free classroom for kindergarten wide celebrations. A different teacher would bring in treats for the entire kindergarten (spur of the moment type thing, I was told) and the classroom teacher didn't check with me. They had the kids eat the treats outside or in the hall so it wouldn't violate the peanut/tree nut free room part of the 504.
The tough part of it is the fact that my dd doesn't always come home and tell me. She holds it in and tries to be brave. She tells herself it's O.K. The teacher then believed she was O.K. with this arrangement. She was not. I found out--later. I wish I had known sooner.
The worst was when the class had an ice cream party. Two kids were misbehaving and had to miss it as a consequence. They were told to sit on the carpet. Guess where the teacher put dd? On the carpet with those kids. Yes, she put her with kids who were being punished. This brought on a meeting at the school and yes, this was discussed at the meeting and 11 more items were added to dd's 504 at that meeting. I was furious.
So I'm sorry. I can feel what you are going through. I'm glad that you have this thread to bury your info in.** I felt like I couldn't post about my experience. I didn't want the teacher to take it out on dd. I didn't want the school to see what I post. I had to deal with it privately.
I am very, very sorry.
This thread has given me a lot to think about.
**edited to add: when I say bury, I just mean that I don't think anyone who doesn't have pa would take the time to read a long thread. I DO think the info in this thread is important and valuable.
Gotta stop re-reading these posts! I feel like nothing I say comes out right!!
[This message has been edited by Lori Anne (edited August 24, 2007).]

Posted on: Wed, 08/22/2007 - 10:09am
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Wow....I just finished reading the link #1 Mouser provided...
2 years ago you, GailW, Synthia, csc (Alternative to Mainstream??) had this discussion.
It is somewhat discouraging to know that history keeps repeating itself with the cupcakes [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
It was a great discussion, though! I love that you got a copy of the incident report, MB! Love that!
2005 was prior to this huge Wellness Policy thrust. We'll see if there is a difference in 2 more years regarding cupcakes since schools have been mandated to include "Wellness Policies"--our school calls them "guidelines"/"voluntary"/"can't tell a teacher what to do in their classroom"...

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