I am ashamed of the people in my city

Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2004 - 9:15am
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[url="http://www.stuffclub.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=322"]http://www.stuffclub.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=322[/url]
This is someone in my city who wrote this. I hope the link was posted correctly.
~Jenna

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Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2004 - 10:05am
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This is very familiar. This article has shown up here before. Maybe even "stuffguy" himself?
With "friends" like these...
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Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2004 - 10:07am
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I'm not at all suprised by this article - I'm sure there are many PA adults who feel the same way he does. Growing up with no accomodations or allergy knowledge does tend to skew ones viewpoint. However, having a PA child I realize that just because I went through it and survived doesn't mean I ever want my child to have the same experiences! The key differences that this guy needs to realize are that:
1. People's reactions and sensitivities are different. What was okay for him might not be okay for another.
2. Peanut products are much more prevalent in today's society than they were 10, 20, 30 years ago.
3. Just because you had to suffer through something doesn't mean that others should also. Change with the times - there are more pa people than ever and more education than ever. Why begrudge someone for having a safer childhood than your own? Bike helmets, seat belts, and infant car seats were also unheard of in generations past does that mean our children shouldn't use those things?
This article seemed to me similar to a grandad with the back in *my* day we walked 5 miles to school - barefoot - in the snow - uphill both ways type stories. Not to be taken seriously; just a rant.
Rebekah
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Edited to add link to discussion I just found
[This message has been edited by rebekahc (edited October 23, 2004).]

Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2004 - 11:24pm
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I totally agree with much of what this chap said.
sarah

Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2004 - 11:42pm
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for some reason, instead of "peanuts" this article is striking a chord with me re: "socialization". [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img] I mean, for the greater part [i]that's[/i] how [b] I [/b] learned where the lions were.[/i]

Posted on: Sun, 10/24/2004 - 4:47am
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While I do agree with what he inially said it was the responses to ;him I did not agree with. One respondant was mad because they couldn't send pb and j sandwhicehs? Yeah, so what? Can't afford to send meat sandwhishes everyday? If this person sent a peanut butter sandwhich every day of the week they would spend just as much on lunchmeat anyways, first of all. Second of all I do not send meat everyday I have used my creativity and come up with some pretty awesome cheap and healthy alternitives.
Kids are picky I know that.No one wants to eat the same thing day in and day out.However there are alot of other things you can provide that won't kill another kid.
I have taught my son all the things he needs to know about his allergy and I have had to as I can not possibly be with him 24/7. I do not agree in sheltering a child it makes it worse and harder when they do leave the nest.Reality bites. Yet, it is everywhere. Another taste of reality is a: he is still just a kid, so why put things in his life that could ultimetly kill him?
b: as long as this ignorant attitude towards allergies is maintained we will have to insist on them not allowed in the schools and finally C: the people with the attitude such as the second respondant had will never change thier attitude until they actually see what happens to a child who's throat is closing on them!
I also wanted to point out that "stuff guy" was in school years ago and reality is is that there simpley weren't the the levels of dangers there are now.Period.Not to mention I think he was just sh*t lucky.
My son will leave the nest one day and he will not insist everyone everywhere get rid of nuts he will be able to control his own exposure and decide for himself. I will be damned if and idiot mother will take taht from him just because thier kid had to have that peanut butter sandwhich.
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Posted on: Mon, 10/25/2004 - 2:39pm
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I wonder if "stuffguy" has any PA children? "Stuffguy" shows a decided lack of understanding of a parent's point of view. Perhaps some of the peanut restrictions are one step too far, but if it will save a parent a heap of anxiety isn't that of some benefit to society - you know, what goes around comes around and all that?

Posted on: Mon, 09/05/2005 - 10:45am
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I know I'm a year late, but [url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum3/HTML/000864.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum3/HTML/000864.html[/url]
should give you all the discussion you might need.. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Mon, 09/05/2005 - 10:52am
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And really, why this should make you ashamed of me, really does make me wonder.
Truth is truth. Your children will grow up, and it's how you prepare them when they are small that will determine how well they can cope with reality once you aren't here. It's my opinion that sheltering, and not educating your kids are just setting them up for trouble in the long run.
How you raise your kids is definately your own business, but my opinion, especially when it comes to PA, is still my own.

Posted on: Mon, 09/05/2005 - 11:31am
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Okay, I didn't say I was ashamed of you. I said I was ashamed of the people in my city. If this includes you well, then so be it.
You didn't read my post. I said a great big speel about what I think of "sheltering". I do not demand my whole school go peanut/nut free. I have taught my son the dangers through talking to him, pointing them out an teaching him how to respond to the exposures and the aftermath to exposure. He knows and takes very good care of himself.
What angered me the most was the promotion of the angry parents because they couldn't take the cheap easy way out of helping their community out. Really? If it was their children with the allergy then they would likely go much much further than I have with my own. Heck, even members here go to the enth degree when it comes to these LIFE THREATNING allergies. It is all about life and the comfort zones each of us are in. If it is to much for you to help a CHILD LIVE than frankly you do not belong in this world. This is what I have said to others and will continue to say to parents who stand outside my child's classroom dangling potentially deadly items and waggling them around in front of him like I have seen ADULTS do out of anger because of my son. They should be thanking the good lord they have healthy children.
When you went to school your allergy was likely very unheard of. I know that when I went to school there were NO other kids with these allergies. NONE!! I went to a huge school. Same as when I went to highschool. People need to learn to adapt to the ever changing world.
Please read the entire posts as you will benefit from them, before you decide that I shelter rather than educate. I do not agree with you antagonistic views. I do not apreciate you posting a link that sends me to others I have already read.
~Jenna

Posted on: Mon, 09/05/2005 - 11:57am
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Hello Stuffguy - just when I was wishing I could add my two cents to this old thread - here you are.
You obviously weren't a parent when you wrote your statement about PA.
You don't know anything about a five year old. Can you honestly tell me that you would trust a five year old child to make good decisions regarding what he/she can or can't eat when a mistake is potentially life threatening?
If you say yes, then I say BUNK! You don't know kids. If you think that 'educating' your five year old will prevent accidental ingestion of peanuts, then you are a fool.
I'm not the mother of a PA child. I'm a grandmother with adult-onset PA and there's no way on God's green earth that I believe your philosophy. It may work with 8 year olds and some five year olds - but not all.
This is why I would fight for PN free classrooms - to protect these little kids that aren't old or wise enough YET to make sound decisions in spite of being educated about PA.
Write back to us when you're a parent of a five year old.
I'd like to hear if you have changed your mind.

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