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Posted on: Sat, 12/16/2000 - 5:28pm
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Canadian Smarties - very much like plain M & M's, but not as plump and not as brightly coloured, I would say. Also, Jesse's teacher is from Kentucky and she told me that she misses her M & M's because Smarties aren't as sweet. I suppose there is the possibility for confusing the two, but I would say not.
Smarties are flatter and their colour is not anywhere near the same as M & M's brightness wise. Perhaps you could actually post that question in the Smarties thread and see if any of the people that have received the Smarties find them something to be confused with plain M & M's. I really don't think they would be.
I also think you could probably show some plain M & M's to Bobby and then show him the Smarties when you got them and he would clearly know the difference also. It's amazing what our children can grasp that we sometimes can't, and especially with regard to their PA. Just as you said that he was not bothered by what happened at the school the other day, it was you, I really maintain that a lot of times are children "get it" better than we do and deal with it much more in their stride. I'd sign Bobby up for the Smarties, but again, you may want to see if they are confusing with plain M & M's. I would say no, but I've never actually purchased plain M & M's. We always had Smarties so to me it was "why bother?". Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Sun, 12/17/2000 - 12:36pm
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PA definitely affected my day yesterday. My company had a children's holiday party yesterday. I asked one of the coordinators in advance if any of the food being served had any peanut product in it including peanut oil. She called the caterer and assured me that no nut product or nut oil was being used. The caterer mentioned a child once had a severe reaction to almond oil so now they don't use any nut product. I told the coordinator that I was talking about peanut products specifically and that peanuts were not actually a nut. She reassured me that there were NO NUT products. She obviously wasn't understanding that I wanted to know about PEANUTS. She seemed annoyed with me too that I was questioning her answer.
So we got to the party yesterday. The first thing I noticed that there was a long table with hot servers on it. Shelled walnuts and almonds were being used as decorations and were all over the table. My husband then went to find the caterer who told us to stay away from the pizza because there was chicken on some of the pizzas and the chicken was cooked in some sort of thai sauce.
For dessert they had the kids decorate their own gingerbread man. They had butterscotch chocolate chips and plain M&M's. Of course, the caterer didn't think to mention these products to us. Needless to day, we were very careful with what we fed my son. I was a bit of a wreck when I really should have been enjoying the party. I was very annoyed that I asked questions in advance and tried to be prepared for this party. I was told twice that all the food was safe, only to find out that there were both peanut and nut products.
I plan to talk to the party coordinator tomorrow and tell her I was disappointed. I really want her to understand how serious this issue is and that she really need to be more certain next time. If not for my son, for someone else.

Posted on: Mon, 12/18/2000 - 10:34pm
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Cindy,
I had to tell you this story because, their is good people in this world. Yesterday (Monday)-Bobby was home sick & I received a phone call at 8:00am from one of the moms that were at school with me Friday. (Her 2 year old is PA & her 5 year old is a diabetic.) She proceeded to tell me she baked cupcakes for Bobby that were peanut free because, she was so upset that he sat by himself on Friday while they decorated the cookies. I was so touched that this women did this for my son.
Also, she asked why did I allow the M&M's in the class? I explained to her that it was my fault-she explained that 504 form in depth to me & said that his class is technically peanut free & that they probably did not know that M&M's have a "may contain" label & I should educate them on this.
I feel 100% better now with the situation at school & I know my sons rights.
Thanks again.
Stay Safe
Ronna
Thought this would be a positive about my day with PA.

Posted on: Mon, 12/18/2000 - 11:08pm
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Excellent "positive" to share with us to-day, Caring Mom. The other woman sounds wonderful! See, I wasn't the only one who felt sad about Bobby besides you! I think this is wonderful and I also think it's really great that you shared it with us because we need to hear the "good" stories too as well as the bad. I know I started the thread off on a fairly positive note, but it wasn't my intention that it be either positive or negative - simply how did PA affect your day that day, but it sure is great to see some positive stuff coming into it.
I am so happy for Bobby and for you too that you have found this other caring, concerned woman, who is also dealing with PA.
The M & M's still interests me. Of the stores I checked yesterday, the plain M & M's were labeled "made in a facility that has peanuts". I didn't see any that said "may contain". So, now I have to find out who makes the bloody things to begin with and call them and see what they mean by that particular labeling. Then, I'll know whether or not I should speak with Jesse's teacher about HER allowing them into his "peanut free" classroom or not. Someone else also gave me a really good thread to check out here on the percentages of food, when tested, that is labeled a certain way that actually does contain peanut products. So I have to check that out too.
Also, I'm really pleased that someone was able to help you with the 504 because I am still unclear about what it is.
Thanks for an upbeat message for the day, Caring Mom and I hope Bobby enjoyed his cupcakes! Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 12/19/2000 - 6:01am
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Cindy,
I know M&M Mars Company makes the M&M's here in Hackettstown, NJ-which is only 5 minutes from my house. I wonder if they import them to Canada? I can do some research for you & get back to you on that.
Ronna

Posted on: Tue, 12/19/2000 - 6:38am
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Caring Mom, yes, I called the New Jersey phone number this morning but only to ask them for a Canadian phone number! I did find out the information that I needed re M & M's plain, they're not "safe", just as I thought.
If they were "safe" we wouldn't have a Smarties sending thing going on! I posted the information I received from customer services at Mars Confectionery in threads under Manufacturers, the "may contain" and "made in a facility" thread under Main Discussion and the Canadians thread under Main Discussion.
So, the packages I checked yesterday were labeled "manufactured in a facility where there are peanuts". To-day, I check packages in a different store, and they say "may contain trace peanuts". However, yesterday, I had checked a blue packaged M & M's and the tube one and to-day I checked a brown package.
I did speak with Jesse's teacher after school tonight and she said that if the other child did have M & M's in the classroom she was unaware of it (and this woman is aware of everything that goes on around my son!) and when I told her what child it was supposed to be that had them, she said that he was probably teasing Jesse. I'm not even going to think about that now, okay? Otherwise, I can already start to feel myself getting upset and no time for that right now, and besides, I'm in a good mood!
I will think about that later and probably post more about that later, but just not right now. At any rate, the M & M's were not eaten or opened in the classroom, so, once again, no big deal.
Caring Mom, what a drag to live so close to a candy manufacturer and yet you probably can't ingest ANY of their products! It would be great to live close to say Rowntree (Smarties, KitKat - Canadian, Aero, Coffee Crisp). Well, actually, not for people that can consume four chocolate bars at a time like I can, but.....
Thanks so much for offering to help with this one. I really appreciate it. Many thanks and best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 12/19/2000 - 7:59am
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Cindy,
I emailed you probably when you were replying on the M&M's topic in this thread. At any rate I learned more about M&M's today when I did some research.
Take Care, talk to you soon.
Ronna

Posted on: Tue, 12/19/2000 - 12:45pm
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What did you learn?
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Posted on: Wed, 12/20/2000 - 12:21am
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I posted the M&M Mars Co. under Safe & unsafe food.

Posted on: Wed, 12/20/2000 - 12:58am
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Caringmom, Thank God you were there for your son when he was moved away fromt the rest of the class. I think at the small ages Christopher would have been so upset because of this whole thing. We never had this happen,but if my son had come home and told me this story I would have cried because I wasn't right there to get him through it. There are other options besides M&Ms. I don't expect anyone to bow down before me or to roll out the red carpet,but they could have used somethingelse. As Christopher always tell me"mom you worry to much I am fine". I forget he knows no other way of life than to avoid things. Whereas I have not. I am glad your son is o.k. and understood why he had to move. It is amazing how well they care for themselves so young. take care claire

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