Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2006 - 12:06pm
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Tonight's episode of the medical drama House had a patient who had bee sting, penicillin and peanut allergies.

I'll post more about it later - it did raise some questions for me about penicillin allergies (my daughter is allergic to amoxicillin) and just more period.

Funny, I had checked an on-line TV Guide early to-day to see if House was new tonight or not and when I saw what the episode was about (an allergic reaction in a heart transplant patient), I almost posted it here so people could watch, but then I didn't.


Back later.

Nothing negative to say about it.

Best wishes! [img][/img]

"That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2006 - 12:22pm
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Joined: 07/30/1999 - 09:00

Cindy - help! I saw the first 1/2 hour but missed the conclusion. Would you be so kind as to fill me in? I did see the very end where they pulled some sort of leggy creature from her, um, personal area. Did they ever figure out what caused the first anaphylaxis when the boyfriend kissed her?

Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2006 - 1:00pm
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Joined: 11/12/2005 - 09:00

DD (TNA,PA,OAS) watched this with me. We both thought that the epi given by mom seemed a little close to the knee!
This episode gave us a chance to go over the use of the epi-pen with our 12 and 17 yr old boys.
I am curious though, as DD has never experienced anaphylaxis, was that a more-or-less accurate portrayal of someone in ana. shock?
DD had her first bout of exzema after starting Amoxicillin for the first time. The pharmacist said it couldn't be a reaction, as the antibiotic was a synthetic. I read after that Amoxicillin does contain some penecillen, although she could have been reacting to the prescription given.

Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2006 - 1:21pm
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Joined: 01/16/2004 - 09:00

I never watch House but I tuned in today to see Michelle Trachnburg(sp?) cause I'm a Buffy fan.
It was a great episode, I'm really happy I got to see it. And I think it's great how the boyfriend went through so much to make sure she was safe (except the condom thing, but that's an entirely different kind of "safe" than I'm talking about).
Yes, I thought it was waaaay too close to the knee. When her knee started twitching I immediately thought, "Epi-pen injury!"
And I couldn't have been the only one here mentally screaming at the boy to pull off the gray cap and jab [img][/img]

Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2006 - 9:02pm
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Joined: 10/04/2001 - 09:00

We're complete House addicts here!
The timing of this show couldn't have been better; I'd just pulled out some old, expired epis and a grapefruit to do an "epi drill", since it had been awhile since we did one. (BTW, my kids passed with flying colors, my DH needs work.) Not five minutes later we see the boyfriend struggling with the epipen, reinforcing how important it is for people to know how to use it.
And yes, it should have been administered on the outside of the upper thigh! Drove me crazy too.
Terrific episode, especially the way they included key issues such as body fluids, teens forgetting their epipens and eating what they shouldn't, and the folly of driving yourself to the ER.

Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2006 - 10:20pm
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Kathy L., as far as I could tell, and others can correct me if I'm wrong, but she was allergic to ticks. The boyfriend brought one in on him the night before and as far as I could tell, that's what she had the anaphylactic reaction to because the antibiotic he was taking wasn't a 'cillin.
Then, because the tick was still on her (feeding off her [img][/img] ) everything else that happened happened.
It was questioned whether or not it could be a tick allergy when Greg finally figured that out and something was said about this girl's allergies being unusual/different/not run of the mill so that yes, with her, it was possible for her to have a tick allergy.
I'm glad so many people saw it! [img][/img]
Going Nuts, I just LOVE House. Still can't believe Hugh Laurie is playing a 46 year old, but then again, I'm just in denial. [img][/img]
Best wishes! [img][/img]
"That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

Posted on: Wed, 04/05/2006 - 1:13am
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Quote:Originally posted by lmw:
[b] I am curious though, as DD has never experienced anaphylaxis, was that a more-or-less accurate portrayal of someone in ana. shock?
It wasn't accurate to my personal experience with ana. shock - but that doesn't mean it isn't accurate. My son said that the three different people he has given (or been present when they were given) epinphrine - none reacted to it the way she did in the show. I also did not react that way. (Again, I'm not saying it isn't accurate - just not accuracte with my own personal experience.)
Overall, I thought it was an excellent show. I really liked that they strongly included the idea that she could be reacting to something her boyfriend had eaten. Although that part did lead to a discussion in my home.
Even though I've reacted to my husband's sweat - he felt that it was not possible to react to THAT. My son tried to explain, but dh has this mental block about it. I finally told him that just because it comes from his [i]special place[/i] doesn't mean it really is special. [img][/img]
Anyway, he won't eat my allergens anyway.
But, I do think the show really had my son thinking. We've never discussed any risk if his girlfriend takes penicillin.

Posted on: Wed, 04/05/2006 - 2:31am
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Joined: 03/05/2001 - 09:00

We don't normally watch House, but just happened to catch the beginning and then watched the whole thing!
First thing my 15 year old DD said was "that's not where you give an epi!"
She didn't say much about the episode, but I know the whole "boyfriend" issue gave her something to think about. Particularly about him not knowing how to use the epi.
I think she was troubled by the severity of the reactions, until it got to the end and the tick was removed and everything got all better.
But when they research these episodes, why couldn't they get something as easy as the right way to administer an epi-pen right???

Posted on: Wed, 04/05/2006 - 4:11am
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Joined: 01/16/2004 - 09:00

According to my mom, that's how my two ana. reactions played out. I was fine, ingested PB, and the next minute I was blue and couldn't breathe. Ana. involves two body systems, so if your two systems are your throat closing and your blood pressure dropping, then yes, that's how ana. could look. Of course, it's not how it *always* looks, but for my two reactions way back 18 years ago, that's pretty much how it went (I didn't convulse or have my eyes roll back, but I came thisclose to losing consciousness).

Posted on: Wed, 04/05/2006 - 7:20am
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Joined: 07/13/2005 - 09:00

We saw it too. The epi being used above the knee was the first thing we noticed too.

Posted on: Wed, 04/05/2006 - 8:35am
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Okay. Jesse watched the show with me. Ember usually does and for some reason last night, she didn't (she finds House so grumpy so can't figure out why anyone would go to see him [img][/img] ).
When the anaphylactic reaction happened right after the boyfriend kissed her, I thought, okay, they're going to tie it into the kiss. I wasn't even thinking sex (not that a kiss is not sexual).
As far as her reaction, I actually told Jesse it was okay if he didn't watch that part because in our experience, with Jess, he did NOT flail around. I explained to him that maybe that was just how this particular teenager reacted, especially because she was so anxious. But no, we've never had the flailing bit happen.
Funny thing, I was so anxious for her to get the Epi-Pen into her, I didn't notice that it wasn't done in the right place. And for a boyfriend of two years, I feel the boyfriend should have known how to use it and if he already did, he should have been able to react quicker.
This sparked a discussion about my daughter learning how to use it for when she is "out and about" with her brother without me, but right now, she can't see that ever happening in life. [img][/img]
Then, with the pencillin in the sperm bit - Ember is allergic to amoxicillin. I feel like BAD MOMMY but all I've ever done is just tell the prescribing doctor she's allergic. She does not have a MedicAlert bracelet and no one has ever suggested that she might need an Epi-Pen. Does she? Need an Epi-Pen?
I told Em last night I would try to find out because I really didn't know and I feel bad about that answer. I feel like I should know as much about her allergy as I do about my son's and I don't.
Some discussion about sex, which was *good*.
Oh, and when Foreman was calling the Mother over-protective and she responded the way she did - listing her daughter's reactions and why the girl had even needed a heart transplant (my heaven), I thought, wow, that could have been any one of us trying to explain to a doctor why we live the way we do. Wow.
So, yes, definitely a lesson, which I went over with Jesse - you don't worry even about finding me if you're having a reaction (say at school) - you just get someone to administer the Epi-Pen and dial 911 and all else will fall into place. Don't worry about ME. Get the Epi, dial 911 and just go!
And definitely, no driving yourself to the hospital. Can you imagine? [img][/img]
I'm sorry I didn't post it yesterday when I saw it in the TV Guide, but I wasn't sure what it was going to be about. It looks like there are a lot of House fans here anyway.
I have to check on-line tonight to find out how old Hugh Laurie is anyway. I cannot believe he is 46. I know he is playing a 46 year old in the show, that that doesn't mean anything, but somehow he just looks older. [img][/img]
(I do love House and Greg in particular).
Best wishes! [img][/img]
"That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."


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