Hospital Closings - Lots of Them!


Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the closings of so many hospitals? At least here in Massachusetts, they seem to be closing left, right and center. I just read an article in the Boston Globe that Whidden Memorial might close after 106 years of operation. My husband had to go to Mass General on Wednesday to get some stiches and he said the ER was so incredibly over burdened. [img][/img]

On Dec 1, 2000

Yes, the situation is the same here in Ontario. Starting about 4-5 years ago, hospitals started to close, completely overburdening many ERs.

There is an inquest being held right now in Toronto, concerning the death of an 18 year old asthmatic patient, who died after the ambulance he was in was turned away, because the hospital was so busy they went on "redirect".

The medics in the ambulance couldn't perform a tracheaotomy, which he needed, and by the time the ambulance arrived at the next hospital, 20 minutes away, he was brain damaged and near death from lack of oxygen. He died the next day in hospital.

Hospital closings are tragedies waiting to happen - the above is only one example of the inquests that have been held in the past few years in Ontario, relating to hospital closures.

On Dec 30, 2000

This could turn out to be a very dangerous situation. This is obviously a complicated issue. If anyone has any expertise on this topic contact me and post what others can do etc. on this thread if there is anything which you can say in public.

------------------ Stay Safe,


On Jan 5, 2001

Things are pretty dire in Montreal too.

A few years ago the provincial government offered early-retirement packages to doctors and nurses in a bid to reduce the province's medical budget(!!!!). Attaining "deficit-zero" at all costs is a big political goal for the Partis Qu

On Jan 6, 2001

The situation is all to similar here in Ottawa. My sister-in-law was diagnosed with MS this past order to get a difinitive diagnosis she had to have an MRI. The waiting list here in Ottawa was 9-11 months. This was completely unacceptable because recent research in MS has strongly indicated that early treatment was key to slowing down and even stopping future occurences of MS.

My SIL opted to pay $600 and was able to get her MRI in Montreal within a week.

Sure, and we don't have a two tiered health care system in Canada. I have to wonder what a financially disadvantaged person would have done in a similar situation.


Katiee (Wade's mom)

On Jan 6, 2001

Arachide.... I am one of the nurses who was offered a package to leave Quebec when the hospital I was working in was closed..... We questioned the government about their reasoning ...asked them for all kinds of information to support their plan and some sort of strategic plan to ensure that their proposals were viable ..... as you can well see.......we didn't recieve any specifics and you are now living through the results advice to you and anybody else who's wellbeing is threatened is to call in the press immediately ......file law suites if necessary ...... The average individual costs for relocation is 10,000$ not including the cost of orientation which depending on the department, can be up to 6 months of "doubled up" time, where the practionioner is working in a new department and is buddied with another staff memeber as a super-numery. Out of country staff may only stay for 1 year and are not always able to nor do they want to have their visa renewal approved......others do not wish to go through the language requirements for Quebec so they use a position there as an entry point into Canada......Did Bouchard and Rochon save money .....well calculating that it was senior people who opted to leave, I suspect that the drain to the knowledge base in health care was enormous, and in terms of community health, well statistics provided are always with a political slant so they may be skewed but they show that the health of the population is not affected adversely ......Many of the newspapers tend to side with one party or the other and so information is very slanted and not accurate in either direction ......When services are not available in a timely manner for serious conditions just think of the hours and hours of wait time for just simple incoveniences, like broken bones, cuts, virus' etc which fall low on the triage list when breathing problems, heart problems etc must come first ...... We then have to look at a system that is stretched to the point of breaking and ask your health care provider how many hours he/she has been working on that particular shift......some are on double shifts which means over 16 hours you think their judgement is 100%??? I wish I could say that health care is better in other provences but I would be lying.....I have worked in two other provences, both having undergone health care reforms and both suffering the same effects..... It would seem that somewhere, somebody would look at the effects in other places and learn from their negative experiences but alas, I am dreaming in technicolor there ..... So all I can suggest is political pressure in the form of keeping people has been shown to be a very effective tool....and legal recourse when necessary ......but not only against the institution but also against the governement ...... Sharon (who has strong feelings on this subject!!!)