Honestly Please, Is My Position About Seeds Strange?

Posted on: Mon, 06/17/2002 - 11:25pm
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pI have this strange thing going on in my head about seeds and have ever since Jesse was diagnosed with PA. To me, I associate all edible seeds with nuts (tree nuts and peanuts) even though Jesse is not allergic to any seeds. The strange thing about it is that my association is different for different seeds and I'm getting kinda confused by my own stance./p
pYesterday, I was sent an article about sunflower butter by another PA.com member. However, I have never brought sunflower seeds into our home to eat since Jesse was diagnosed and our home became totally peanut/nut free. I do use sunflower seeds only (not a mixed seed) for my bird feeders.br /
They are not shelled. I allow Jesse, rather reluctantly, to put them in the feeders but have him come in straight away and wash really well./p
pFor me, sunflower seeds have always presented a cross contamination issue because they are always found in the grocery store right where the peanuts/tree nuts are found. However, I know that there are many manufacturers/packagers of sunflower seeds that do label correctly. I have seen the warning "may contain" on packages of sunflower seeds before. Perhaps that's what my problem is. I have seen the warning on some packages so I don't trust any of them./p
pI'm fairly clear that I would no longer buy sunflower seed oil to cook with either./p
pThe other day in looking at the ingredient list for some white chicken breast chicken nuggets, I saw sesame seed oil. As soon as I saw that, I put the package down. Jesse is not allergic to sesame seeds. Jesse eats sesame seeds if they are on hot dog or hamburger buns or bagels from a reputable, well labeling manufacturer. I thought about it later and thought my decision was bizarre especially since I'm wondering what the chances of cross contamination of oils could be. Is it the same as with other products?/p
pI bought some cosmetics within the last month and received some freebies. One of them was a face moisturizer with sesame seed oil in it. To me, it was something that I could immediately give away. Why is that?/p
pJesse also consumes poppy seeds when they're on buns or bagels that are from a reputable, well labeling manufacturer./p
pPumpkin seeds I'm okay with if they have come straight out of a pumpkin because I figure there is no chance of cross-contamination. But I would never think to buy any packaged ones./p
pBut I have to admit that I have this *thing* about seeds and I'm wondering if I've simply gone off my rocker and am denying my family a really great casserole made with sunflower seeds simply because I'm afraid. /p
pI have to admit that it took me quite awhile to loosen up about the sesame and poppy seeds on bagels and buns. Quite some time. I think also, Jesse has questioned me about seeds - is there something about seeds that makes them look nut-like? and whether they are "safe" for him to eat. So, I am trying to be super careful as well./p
pOkay, so general consensus, have I gone absolutely bonkers or can someone please set me straight? I really don't mind the truth!br /
LOL!/p
pMany thanks and best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]/p
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p[This message has been edited by Cindy Spowart Cook (edited June 18, 2002).]/p

Posted on: Mon, 06/17/2002 - 11:56pm
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O.K. Cindy, I do think you're going a bit overboard on the seed thing. However, maybe your maternal intuition is telling you something and you should listen to that little voice in your head. As for the sesame oil in a packaged product, however: I definitely would not worry about that. I could be totally wrong, but that is my perspective at this point. We tend to avoid seeds if there is a reasonable alternative (such as getting plain bagels instead of poppy; plain burger buns instead of with sesame) mostly so we don't "overload" Leah's system with seeds and hasten any development of a seed allergy if she happens to be so predisposed. (Does that make any sense?!?!) However, we did avoid seeds entirely after we had a sesame seed scare with Leah and thought she may be allergic. We did an at home challenge (yes I know this is not a great idea) and found that she was able to eat an entire burger king hamburger (with sesame seed bun) without any problem. Later she tested "class one" to sesame seeds on the RAST. This is why we try not to overload her.
O.K., does it seem like I just totally contradicted myself all over the place?!?!
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Miriam

Posted on: Tue, 06/18/2002 - 12:36am
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I think that sesame seeds are cross-reactive with peanut, but I have no idea why I think that! There is something about seeds that makes me nervous- again no reason for it, it just is. I don't even buy Burger King for myself because those darn seeds fall everywhere. Now that you mention it though, I don't really know why I'm avoiding seeds. I guess it's because ds is allergic to just about everything and I assume he'll be allergic to seeds to.

Posted on: Tue, 06/18/2002 - 3:33am
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You are not crazy, Cindy. Our allergist told us that there is a percentage of pa's that are also allergic to sesame seeds (I want to say 20 percent, but don't quote me on that). Anyway, the doc had my child tested for sesame seed allergy and we got a positive rast - bummer!

Posted on: Tue, 06/18/2002 - 10:57am
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Hi Cindy, We don't let Mick eat sunflower seeds either re the cross-contamination issue. I was told by our Dr. that a lot of sunflower seeds are processed in nut facilities. With Mick being PA and TNA, I won't take the chance. BUT, I will let him eat "safe" bread or buns with sesame seeds on them. Hmmm? Now you have me questioning myself, lol!
Anyway, I do agree with NOT letting our kids have sunflower seeds. Too close for comfort in our little airborne sensitive world!
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Posted on: Tue, 06/18/2002 - 2:31pm
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I've always suspected that peanut and sesame cross reacted as well. In childhood, these were the two foods that would lead to full-blown anaphylaxis. I'm still anaphylactic to them, and they are very close to each other in blood IgE testing.

Posted on: Tue, 06/18/2002 - 6:04pm
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Cindy : hi!
When I was diagnosed with the nut allergy, the specialist suggested testing for sesame as well - and guess what? Allergic to sesame !! So, what the others have said seems to back that up : there seems to be a correlation there somewhere [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img](
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Posted on: Wed, 06/19/2002 - 7:22am
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It may have been my post about sunflower butter that you got sent.
When I make it, I use raw sunflower seeds (less of a chance of cross contamination) that I buy in bulk from bins that are nowhere near any nut bins. (Jason is allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, soy and sesame, among other things. When I use the ones in the shell, I give them a quick scrub then let them dry again before I do anything to them.
You could probably do the same with pumpkin seeds.
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Cheryl, mom to Jason (4) and Joey (2)

Posted on: Thu, 06/20/2002 - 9:55am
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I seem to recall that "David's" brand of sunflower seeds (and other 'David's' products) are all processed in a nut-free facility. You can also grow your own sunflowers and harvest the seeds.

Posted on: Fri, 06/21/2002 - 12:19pm
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We stay away from all edible seeds. They make me nervous too. I don't worry about products with the oil in it. I don't know why.
I find myself confused with this too. At Kelly's school, the teacher asked for sunflower seeds. I sent in the ones you plant. Other people sent in the ones you eat. She called me and asked if Kelly could glue the seeds onto paper. I would not let her touch the ones you eat due to possible contamination. Kelly had to use the ones I sent in. She also got to sit at the teachers desk which she thought was cool.

Posted on: Mon, 06/24/2002 - 5:24am
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I also refuse to feed my pa son sunflower or sesame seeds and/or oils -- even though he tested negative. My allergist advised us not to feed my son (currently age 2) any nuts, seeds or shellfish until age 5, when he is at a lower risk of developing other allergies. I do, however allow these products in our home (peanut products are strictly banned) I just don't let my pa son eat them.

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