Help not looking forward to spring coming.

Posted on: Tue, 02/29/2000 - 1:48pm
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Hello my four year old is PA with other food allergies ,on top of that he has outside allergies .Pollen and grass is two of them . Last year he had it real bad it started in april his nose began running all the time all day long everyday.Then he began coughing,I first thougt he had a cold but I was wrong . I had to take him to the doctor a lot . He would take coughing spells so bad it would scare me and I would take him to the doctor as fast as I could.They put him on albuterol and claritin ,his allergy doctor also gave him inhaler. The claritin didnt help the only thing that help was keeping him inside with air condition.I am wondering about allergy shots for pollen and grass from someone whos been there. Do they really help? I am a little scare of the shots ,because I have read a few people have died getting pollen allergy shots.This is very rare but very scary.Is there any advice out there.Joanne

Posted on: Tue, 02/29/2000 - 3:57pm
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pNow you've got me really wondering. I've had regular pollin allergies ever since I can remember. I'm 33 years old and was on actifed when I was a child Way back when it was still a prescription. (Wow that dates me) Anyways... I've never had a Real allergist- just the regular family Dr. and finally as a young adult was able to start getting shots from the internal medicine guy at the clinic. (Not a Real Allergist either!) Anyways- They really did help- especially since I had cat allergies too and ended up with a cat from someone that would have been put to sleep if I hadn't taken it in. I had to have 3 shots every time because of the amount of allergies I had to different things. My sister had shots too for years before me and swears by them too. The only problem is that if you get to maintenance and then quit too soon the effects wear off. I hear that if you stay at maintenance for several years that you should be able to get rid of the allergies for good. Neither my sister or I have been able to do so because of changes in medical plans/ relocation / etc. We've both had different kind of shots too. She's had anaphylactic reactions to hers more than once- AND THIS WAS AFTER SHE WENT BACK HOME WELL BEYOND THE OBSERVATION PERIOD THAT THEY MAKE YOU STAY FOR. She's lucky she's still alive. I on the other hand have had reactions much later too- but not as severe (dime size wealt is supposed to be a reaction but mine was like softball size- but still with no breathing problems at all. I don't know about children and reactions because we were both adults- and we both are on the shots again right now (hopefully for the long term- IF insurance plan doesn't change- etc) Anyways- I was really wondering about the coughing thing. Isn't albuterol an asthma inhaler? Did your child ever have wheezing or just a chronic cough with occasional coughing attacks. I've had a bad cough for over a month and I've been suspecting asthma since I've never been able to run without wheezing and I wheeze when I am around feathers. Do you really have to Always wheeze to have asthma? (I can't wait for a referral to a REAL Allergist so I can get all my questions answered and get to the bottom of this food allergy thing too.)/p

Posted on: Tue, 02/29/2000 - 9:32pm
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pI know this is a peanut allergy bulletin board, but just a side note.... There is a type of asthma called Cough Variant Asthma. Its major sympton is coughing. This type of asthma is missed by a lot of doctors because there is not wheezing. My daughter has this type of asthma. She does not wheeze very much but during a big attack she coughs non-stop for hours. Some people cough so much they start to throw up. If, during a coughing attack, abuterol brings relief, it's probably asthma./p

Posted on: Tue, 02/29/2000 - 10:06pm
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pHey, I know EXACTLY how you feel. My son (who is also PA) is allergic to tree pollen, grasses, dust mites etc and Spring is a killer for him. In the Fall of 1998 we started allergy injections. The following spring (1999) he wasn't much better, but the allergist told me that it takes at least 8 months or so before you will get relief. Unfortunately, we did not start the shots early enough to help in for the 1999 season. Now, we have been on them for over a year and I'm really hoping that this Spring is better. If not, I will probably quit the shots. My allergist was very adamant about my son having the injections because he said that repeated irritation to the bronchial tubes will probably cause him to have adult onset asthma and that can be very dangerous. He wants to try to do everything we can to reduce his inhalant irritations. During allergy season my son also gets very irritated in his lungs and wheezes. We also have to use the albuterol and have had to even do breathing treatments at the allergist's office. Allergy season is the only time this happens. The injections have gone very well for us. We go once a week and get one shot which doesn't bother my son at all. He only gets a very small welt and doesn't seem to have any bad effects. By the way, I had inhalant allergies as a child and outgrew them by the time I was 20. I also received shots for one year as a child.br /
Christine/p

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2000 - 2:16am
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pCOLLEN Hi your question about my sons cough he did not have wheezing just coughing attacks for long periods at a time. His ped. said it was to soon to tell if he had asthma ,but they had to treat it like asthma because they didnt want him to have a asthma attack.His ped prescribe the albuterol for him in a liquid beacause of his age. Albuterol is for asthma , his allergist gave him proventil an inhaler in a spray in case i needed fast results because albuterol in the liquid takes longer to work.His allergist said he was prone to get asthma with all his allergy.They also said what KatiesMom said if abuterol brings relief its probably asthma.His coughing stop after the pollen season and I no longer had to use these medicines./p

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2000 - 2:31am
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pCHRISTINE Hi ,you do know how I feel.How old is your son?I hope this Spring is better for your son too , let me know how he does ,if you think the shots helped.I'm glald you outgrew your allergys . Hopefully our kids will too.Thanks/p

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2000 - 3:11am
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pJoanne,br /
My son is now 5 years old but has been dealing with the spring allergies since he was 2 or 3. Also, my doc prescribes Albuterol during his allergies to keep the coughing from getting too bad. My doctor also won't tell me yet if he has asthma--says it's really too early to tell. Sounds like our docs think the same way.br /
Christine/p

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2000 - 11:02am
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pMY son is 7 and has had allergy/athsma problems since he eas 10 months. old.br /
We control the peanut problem pretty well, most kids with food allergies have athsma in one way or another, Austins worst seasons are spring and fall, his athsma is broght on by wet weather, so if there is a change from sunny to rainy, we can expect his nose to stop up, and the coughing is a sign of athsma, in some cases his ped. prescribes Prednisone, which helps alot and his inhalers but remember, you need to have him take the long acting inhalers such as Serevent and Vanceril till he is 4 weeks symptom free, dont stop because he seeems to feel better, the Provental is a rescue inhaler and does about the same as Albuteralbr /
also try Flonase, it helps his nose stay clear from the pollen that gets in his nose.br /
In fact he always remind me to give it to him because he says he feels much better and gets the "snake" out of his nose (he is 7).br /
We havent gone for the allergy shots, his ped. doesnt recomend it for him, and we havent needed it because we are following the doc's instructions with inhalers to a "T". My mom gets the shots and is allergic to everything, (trees, dogs, mites) and she STILL has to do her inhalers. I would find a good ped. and do EXACTLY as he says before you get the shots./p

Posted on: Thu, 03/02/2000 - 5:05am
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pHi. This might be an area that I can offer a few good tips. First, just like pa shows up in some very young children, so does asthma. There are many babies that are diagnosed with it. Believe me, I've been to the pediatrician who has told me kids have to be at least six before they can be sure if they have allergies. Wouldn't most of the people that post here be deathly ill or worse yet dead with that advice to follow. The correct response here is if children and babies don't get allergies then why are there pediatric alergists and pulmonary specialists? It certainly makes for some jaw dropping.br /
When I relocated to the New England area the first pediatrician that I brought my then 5 year old, 3 yearbr /
old, and 9 month old baby to said exactly that to me. They were to young to have allergies! Huh!!! I let him know that these ones do. He then said how do you know? I let him know what I stated before and that these children were tested. Then I fired him./p
pAny ways , the long and the skinny of it is this.: Most docs won't diagnose "asthma" before three wheezing episodes. They will at first treat the asthma symptoms.(the coughing and /or wheezing) The good doctor will get the thourough family history...relatives with asthma,allergies, and/or excema....This alerts them to the tendency to Atopy in the family...a big risk factor to developing asthma. your job keep track of when it happens. How often. Where you are when it happens..are there any animals, plants, etc....(sorry to go on and on)br /
This day and age there is no reason to suffer so. There are an array of great medications on the market to keep your child happy and ACTIVE. Seasonal hayfever is no reason to stay inside. Those days are truly behind us all. A key note is this, each person has personnal allergy and asthma management plan tailorred to his/her specific case. No two cases are identical and there are many diffeerent medications available. Singulair is designed to block the luekitriens(SP.?) from releasing in the lungs. It is one of the drugs in this new class of drugs. Another maintenance medication is cromolyn solution in the nebulizer. It is far more effective than the inhaler form of the med.br /
Also, if your child is using an inhaler, it is crucial to have an aerochamber for delivery so you child gets all of the med.br /
Another little bit advice, well controlled astmatics should only rarely need oral corticosteroids. Get a good treatment plan and hopefully your child will have a great spring!/p
pGood Luck/p

Posted on: Thu, 03/02/2000 - 11:03am
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pJust a note about allergies/allergy shots - I have had grass/dust mite/mold allergies throughout my life, and have been on allergy shots for 10 years this fall. Part of the reason for taking them so long is that, every time we move (my husband is military) I have to change doctors and change vaccines. I have continued the shots because, when I stop taking them, the symptoms get worse. /p
pAs far as reactions to the shots go, my allergist's position is that if there is a reaction to the shot (swelling dime size or larger, or extensive redness), the dose is reduced for the next shot, then gradually built up again. If there are severe reactions, most allergists will adjust the vaccine dose accordingly, perhaps for an extended period of time. /p
pThe drawback to shots for kids is that the testing involves several needle pricks, and is uncomfortable. Plus, most kids get upset at the thought of getting 1 - 3 shots 2 - 3 times a week initially, then weekly/bi-weekly for a period of months or years. If the symptoms can be controlled with medication, most doctors prefer that for young kids./p
pAs far as asthma goes, sometimes severe allergies can produce asthma symptoms without the person having asthma, per se. (For instance, if I tried to mow my lawn, I'd start having an "asthma attack" - wheezing, breathing difficulty, etc.) This may be the reason you child is being given asthma medication. But if his allergy is that severe, you might really want to investigate the possibility of starting allergy shots./p

Posted on: Thu, 03/02/2000 - 12:31pm
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pHi,/p
p Allergy shots have worked wonders for my oldest who has no know food allergies but lots of environmental ones. /p
pHowever, shots are not an option for youngest (9 ) son, his environmental allergies are way more severe and he has multiple food allergies (4 that are expected to be life-long and three we hope he'll outgrow.) shots are not reccommended for him because he has ezcemia. For some reason shot are unlikely to work for him and very lkely to make ezcemia worse and much more likely to go into life-threatening reaction to the allergy shot even if doctors very slowly increase dosages.br /
So we try to keep him inside in the AC so much as possible in the spring/summer/fall. I'm beginnig to feel like he is just shy of a bubble-boy. /p
pTake Care,/p
pJanB/p
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