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Posted on: Fri, 05/12/2006 - 9:49am
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I'm not quite sure how I feel about the whole Bird Flu thing -- all I know is that we (meaning my family) need to get emergency supplies together anyway. We live on the Hayward Fault. If that goes, we could be looking at needing supplies for a long time too -- if we survive. Just hoping that the house stays standing long enough to get out. Adding a few more specialized items, for bird flu, to what we already need to put away doesn't seem like something we shouldn't do -- just in case. I think I'm more worried about panic -- and if police aren't gonna show up to work.
BTW, how is it that people are getting a stockpile of Tamiflu? Don't you need a prescription for it?

Posted on: Fri, 05/12/2006 - 2:13pm
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Quote:Originally posted by gvmom:
[b]BTW, how is it that people are getting a stockpile of Tamiflu? [/b]
I'm going to cover my ears..........
[i]lalalalalalala, I can't hear---[/i]
kinda makes ya wonder, doesn't it?

Posted on: Sat, 05/13/2006 - 12:28am
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Bird flu, earthquakes, evacuations for hurricanes or wildfires - whatever it is you worry about - it just seems logical to have a supply of food and water on hand. The majority of people only have enough food on hand to last a week or two - and we are also in the position that we can't eat just anything.
I don't panic or stockpile. But I have been keeping more food on hand and rotating it. I live in a fairly rugged canyon. During winter storms, I've been without power/phones for as long as five days. I keep a supply of batteries and I have an emergency battery gizmo that I can plug an electric light into. It runs for about 6 hours. It's given me light through many dark & lonely night.
You can be a lot more comfortable if you plan in advance!

Posted on: Sat, 05/13/2006 - 3:03am
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I wonder if geography plays a part in how much a person worries about natural disasters and how they prepare?
I ask because we live in a part of the country that can have snow on the ground 6 months of the year. If anything happens here, my spouse said that we really have nowhere to go so we better prepare our home.
We even have this mentality when it comes to deciding what car to own. Since we are both quite helpless in auto repair/maintenance we try to buy as reliable a brand as possible and to pay for professional maintenance. The thing that motivates us to do this is our winters can be severe and long and you never want to be stalled somewhere with your kids when the high for the past two weeks has been 5 degrees F.
Now, when I lived in warmer climates we always had these really old, beat-up cars. We stalled out all the time. We walked to the nearest phones and called our friends who would show up within about 3 hours and we got the car to a service station, or jumped it, or whatever. No big deal. We may have sweated because it was 100 degrees out, but we never lost toes or fingers or ears because of the long wait in the car.
I liked the article about the disaster movie "Fatal Contact". I did see some of the movie but thought they really hollywood-ized the situation. Never saw a doctor as gorgeous as the blonde lady doctor working for the WHO. I thought the science reporting was a little unbalanced though. The article mentions the last 3 pandemics and said they were milder and milder because of the advent of sulfa drugs and antibiotics, but it never mentions the increase in exposures due to airtravel might lead to more cases. It also only mentions the last 3 pandemics and fails to mention the fact that in written history (think egyptians, babylonians, etc.) there are about 2-3 pandemics which occur every 100 years. Thus the threat from any one flu strain isn't that great(new flu strains develop everyday), but our chances are pretty good that we'll have another pandemic.
I guess I don't stay up nights worrying about H5N1, I'm just aware that we're due for a flu pandemic (which may or may not be H5N1) and try to do what is reasonable and affordable for my family to keep my little ones safe in the event.
But I'll admit that if it were just me and my spouse I wouldn't take very many precautions at all, since we are not as vulnerable to conditions created by natural disasters, pandemic, etc. as our little guys. And if it were just me and spouse living in a warm state I wouldn't worry about it one little bit. But that's the cost of doing business in the frozen northland.

Posted on: Sun, 05/14/2006 - 5:45am
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Interesting thread.
After reading the original parts of the thread I've read the rest now.
I am not in a panic about bird flu, either, but I am the type of person who takes a 'better safe than sorry' approach. We keep many flats of water and rotate them out using the oldest first to drink at sporting outings or whatever and always replacing them X 2 (for the time being.)
We keep a supply of long-lasting food also.
I am stocked up on emergency supplies but maybe not as well as I should be. I will work on that.
We *do* have a stockpile of Tamiflu we got from our doctor last fall. I said straight out that we are prone to problems anyway and wanted a supply to hedge against flu, bird flu or regular, and he wrote the script with many refills without making a big deal of it, which I immediately filled all at once, because it has a very long shelf-life. We bought the CDC-approved masks to have just in case - they are a certain rated kind which keeps out viruses the best. None are 100% except containment suits (!) but they are better than nothing.
I read that should there be an actual pandemic, they would be in very short supply rapidly, like everything else.
Ask people in N.O. during the hurricane and they will tell you all about looters. It would not hurt to be up on your NRA supplies as well. You know what I mean. But only if you are trained, have a serious safety system in place, etc.
I feel that given our ability to read, plan ahead and financial situation (very comfortable) in conjuction with our lack of brutish size or demeanor to physically force our way into supplies AFTER the fact by force or fighting our way in some harsh line of panicked people waiting, it would be the intelligent thing to do to plan ahead and stock up way ahead. Most of the things we have and continue to stockpile come in handy in any number of situations - natural disaster, terrorist attack, pandemic of any variety, or anything else that interrupts the supply of normal goods. If anything, we should all be more worried not less so after the hurricane in New Orleans. Government botched it up horribly and people were going HUNGRY and all sorts of goofy things - in ONE city in a rich nation - it was UNBELIEVABLE and an unforgiveable breakdown and show of incompetent response. And I am not political about it or using it because I am a Republican. Imagine if there is a worldwise pandemic. They can't help you. You have to help yourself.
As for the car accident thing...this can be somewhat random but it is not necessarily so. Being a defensive driver helps. Wearing a seatbelt usually helps. Having a bigger, stronger, more reinforced car that rates well in accidents, helps. Not driving at times of day when drunks are out in numbers, helps. Not driving with big %s of semi trailers helps (every other day, it seems, here, some big rig drives left of center or something like it and wipes out a family or some person doing nothing wrong but driving with a bunch of trucks on a highway). Not talking on your cell phone and really WATCHING other drivers helps. Etc. Nothing can be controlled 100% but you can prepare and really, really cut down your chances of death or injury in accidents.
I am all about preventative medicine in many situations!
Which is probably why I'm the perfect parent in the first place to have a PA child. We take no chances. I am not rocking in the corner and freaking out about bird flu but I know some pandemic is long overdue.

Posted on: Sun, 05/14/2006 - 9:07am
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[url="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/14/world/asia/14flu.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5094&en=9fb7ea454c577d65&hp&ex=1147665600&partner=homepage"]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/14/world/...artner=homepage[/url]
Barb

Posted on: Sun, 05/14/2006 - 10:13am
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Quote:Originally posted by Christabelle:
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As for the car accident thing...this can be somewhat random but it is not necessarily so. Being a defensive driver helps. Wearing a seatbelt usually helps. Having a bigger, stronger, more reinforced car that rates well in accidents, helps. Not driving at times of day when drunks are out in numbers, helps. Not driving with big %s of semi trailers helps (every other day, it seems, here, some big rig drives left of center or something like it and wipes out a family or some person doing nothing wrong but driving with a bunch of trucks on a highway). Not talking on your cell phone and really WATCHING other drivers helps. Etc. Nothing can be controlled 100% but you can prepare and really, really cut down your chances of death or injury in accidents.
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lol. you're preaching to the choir.
that said, one of the [i]biggest risks[/i] I take every day is getting into an automobile.
I don't know if other people feel the way I do, but I feel climbing into a motor vehicle and proceeding at what most persons consider normal driving speeds on a road with other people doing the same thing is just [i]inherently dangerous[/i]. I mean a relatively small area at any given moment with other similiarly moving speeding projectiles, of varying amounts of steel, metal, and components. And hey, I'm leaving normal changes in weather conditions out of it. As well as other impaired drivers, and hazards one encounters (whether one realizes it or not) each and every time they climb behind a wheel and pull out onto the road. It's a risk/benefit decision.
That said, it would be nice if I could *always* pick and choose what [i]time[/i] I need to drive. Take work. "Rush hour" around where I live (generally a quiet residential area outside of the city) lasts for around 3 hour blocks. Minimum. It's not like you can always work around it. And now get this, I work a number of shifts (pre maternity leave) that just happen to start when the bars close. Open. Whatever. KWIM? Pre-baby, I generally was in the car 2-3 times a day. Odd times, for whatever.
I've been sitting in a rocking chair a lot lately. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] It faces the bedroom window. My window is near the street.
No joking, but I've counted, during various periods throughout the 8a,-4 pm time, a gravel bomber or cement mixer barreling down that street about [i]once a minute[/i] when they are pouring foundations. Not all day, constantly, but when a foundation is going in. I mean, it's building season. But, it's not like I look out the window and scan the area for a cement crew, before leaving my home. KWIM?
The sub-division across the street is growing rapidly. Well, there are *3* new subdivisions going up within a mile of my home. With more on the way just around the next main street. That's a lot of foundations and building material they're going to need.
But yeah, sometimes, we're able to pick and choose where, when, and how we place ourselves in harm's way. And to *me*, that's just what driving down the street is, when-ever, where-ever, how-ever. No matter how *safe* someone thinks they are being.
~no advice, just me. And what I've seen. Individual Mileage May Vary.

Posted on: Tue, 05/30/2006 - 6:27am
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Raising as it is on Oprah right now, the whole issue, preparing, etc.... becca

Posted on: Tue, 05/30/2006 - 6:59am
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I better get pumping!!! Breastmilk, I mean. I'm hoarding a stash to see my family thru this catastrophe.

Posted on: Tue, 05/30/2006 - 10:31am
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Okay, I have been ignorant. I thought this thread was about the tv movie. I didn't realize it was so much in the media until today when I saw it on oprah. I KNOW, I KNOW. my head has literally been stuck in the sand the last few months that I have not realized how serious this all is.
I do have meds & food & water & supplies for a natural or unnatural terrorist disaster. It is just something my mom put together after 9/11 & we keep it up at both houses for that reason. We were also reinforced after katrina & rita. mostly b/c Aidan cannot have so many things do we keep it up to par.
Anyway, I will reread the thread later, but any suggestions are helpful.
mandi

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