grandson\'s trip to the ER with stomach pain`

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 5:17am
Adele's picture
Joined: 01/31/2005 - 09:00

The boards are pretty quiet today, but I'm hoping someone might be around to give me some feedback.

My grandson, almost 5, has a hx of eczema as a baby and asthma when he gets sick. He is also severely allergic to dogs, cats, grass, and a multitude of other trees/plants, etc.

I have PA and his maternal grandfather is supposedly allergic to walnuts. Ethan has no FA that we know of.

Last night, my son and DIL took the kids to the movies.
They had popcorn and Red Vines. Shortly after, my grandson complained that his stomach hurt. My son took him to the restroom - which didn't help. It wasn't bad enough to leave the movie, but my son could hear him whimper during the movie, then he was fine.

This morning, my DIL made pancakes for the kids. It was a new pancake mix they hadn't tried before.

My grandson took a bite or two, then started to scream.
He was running around the kitchen, screaming, begging for water or milk. It was so unlike him, and was obviously in such pain that they rushed him to the ER. No temp and no problems that they could see. He was given a clean bill of health.

I asked why he wanted milk or water? Was his mouth burning? They said no - just his stomach hurt.

I don't know if they checked him for hives. He's a hivey kid anyway and gets them at the drop of a hat. As far as I know, the stomach pain was the only symptom.

This is all too familiar to me as some of my first symptoms to peanuts, long before I knew I was PA, was grinding stomach cramps - and nothing else.

I'll be at their house this afternoon for my granddaughter's birthday party so will get more info then.

Have your FA kids had only stomach pain? Am I being too reactionary?

Thanks. I appreciate your feedback.

Edited to add: I just talked to my son. He said that Ethan was also shaking really hard....he thinks from the pain, and that it lasted about an hour and a half.

By the end of the movie the night before, he was feeling fine so they went out to dinner where he ate a big meal.

[This message has been edited by Adele (edited March 24, 2007).]

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 5:41am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

I don't really have any suggestions other than he should see his pediatrician asap. Sometimes when kids are constipated they can have bad stomach cramps. My pa tna son's allergies show more as constricted breathing and hives, swelling.
How is he today?
mom to Ari(6) - severe nut allergies, asthma, you name it - and Maya (9), mild excema

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 5:47am
Adele's picture
Joined: 01/31/2005 - 09:00

Thanks, thatsmetrying. The severe stomach pain happened this morning. They've only been back from the ER a few hours. He's fine now.
He pooped at the ER - no diarrhea - so he isn't constipated.

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 6:01am
Daisy's picture
Joined: 01/16/2006 - 09:00

****TMI alert***
I don't know if you have this with your GI allergies, but when I'm having a mild reaction to something like chicken or apples (some of my non-ana allergies) and my stomach hurts, the next few days my nose runs and I have mucus with BM's. That's always a definite indicator for me that the stomach pain/cramping is not due to a virus or PMS.
As a child, I did not have hives, just the terrible stomachaches and constant runny nose. The diarrhea came much later, as a teen.
Could his Ped do a total IgE? Some GI allergies don't RAST well, but the total count usually is a clue.
Have a good time at the party,

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 6:04am
Adele's picture
Joined: 01/31/2005 - 09:00

Thanks Daisy. I'll find out more when I'm there this afternoon. This is so unlike him. He never has stomach problems and is seldom sick.
My symptoms are almost all GI which is why alarm bells are ringing in my head.
I appreciate your feedback. Many thanks.

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 6:20am
ajgauthier's picture
Joined: 04/13/2005 - 09:00

Sorry this happened to the poor little guy [img][/img]
You know, I remember with my reactions (though they were anaphylactic), taking the first bite and swallowing...I had this horrible taste in my mouth and wanted to drink gallons of juice or milk to make the taste go away.
So...if he was having a reaction, maybe his immediate reaction was to get the taste out of his mouth?
I would assume the ER did a visual check of his mouth and throat? When my nephew had 'foot in mouth' disease, before the blisters really appeared in his upper throat, he had them lower...and my sister said he was in severe pain one morning at breakfast (he's 3)...he took one swallow and WHAM! screaming and crying b/c of the pain.
hope they figure it out.
30-something survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 6:25am
chanda4's picture
Joined: 12/14/2006 - 09:00

My son has had a few instances(more like about 1 1/2 hours too) but he will curl up holding his stomach and literally scream. he'll yell out as it cramps, scream and then it goes away for a minute or two, then it does it again. I've given him Pepto a couple times, so not sure if that is what helps it go away or not. I'm not so sure I would do the Epi if it happens again, unless I know for sure he ate something.
Now my oldest has a histry of stomach pains too, I even took her took her to the ER twice. The first time I was about to leave(it got better on the ride over) but then she threw up in the hall, they took her back, did some tests(focused on a kidney/bladder infection), never found anything. 2nd time we went they ran tests, checked appendix(sp?) all was normal, next day at the dr's office they took a stool sample and it was Ecoli!!!! She did have terrible diarrhea a few days after, but not during the pain-part of it. She has just mild allergies to beef and chocolate though.
Stomach pain is a warning sign for so much, I don't know how to read into your grandsons reaction. Maybe the next day or two will offer some light(maybe a virus will show up, diarrhe kick in) or maybe some hives will appear to give a better explantation to being allergy -related. I don't know though, sorry, not much help! HUGS, hope he is feeling better though.
Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 (beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 (peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-3 1/2 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
Savannah-1 (milk and egg)

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 6:54am
Peg541's picture
Joined: 12/29/2002 - 09:00

Adele my son used to double over in pain, lie on the floor and moan and then it would pass like magic. I never connected it to foods but now I see it was Dairy. It was awful.
I'd say get the little guy tested. He is definintely reacting to something. The mouth sympotms are most troubling. Look at all the little kids on this board, you are a lone wolf here. You and a couple of other adults with allergies.
It's mostly kids. Poor little guy. Hope he's better.

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 7:06am
Adele's picture
Joined: 01/31/2005 - 09:00

Thanks guys. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my SOS.
I'm going to do some serious label reading while I'm there. The only common thing I can see with the food last night and this morning is wheat and a palm ingredient. (Guessing there is palm oil in movie theater popcorn)
Chanda4 - Ethan had E-Coli when he was a year old.
Fortunately, they caught it early enough and he was only in the hospital for the day.
When your grandchild is sick it is a double-whammy. You're not only worried about your grandchld - but also for your own child because he is worried about his child.
[This message has been edited by Adele (edited March 24, 2007).]

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 7:20am
momma2boys's picture
Joined: 03/14/2003 - 09:00

My son had a possible reaction after BK one day, stomach pains and then vomited. I gave him Benedryl and it went away. 4 hours later, boom again. Gave Benedryl again and he was fine. That to me proved it was a reaction. I believe it was sesame seeds.
So I would say if it happens again maybe give him Benedryl and see what happens.

Posted on: Sat, 03/24/2007 - 9:17am
April in KC's picture
Joined: 08/28/2006 - 09:00

This may be a long shot, but my mind is on gluten lately..I have a son who has both peanut allergy and Celiac disease. As soon as you said "red vines" and stomach pain, my thoughts went to Celiac disease and gluten. Red vines and Twizzlers contain a lot of gluten. The pancakes would also be full of gluten, unless they were buckwheat pancakes. If the allergy tests come back negative, it's something to consider.
Sometimes it's hard to get Celiac diagnosed, but it will make a big difference in this child's life if this is what he has. Feel free to start a thread in Off Topic if you want to know about testing. There are a few Celiacs on this board who will be glad to help.


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