Peanut allergy and the role of vaccination

Posted on: Wed, 03/24/2010 - 11:22pm
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This is a difficult and uncomfortable topic because of the heated political, medical, social, cultural implications.

Posted on: Thu, 03/25/2010 - 9:11am
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One of the things could be the use of Tylenol. If you give the child Tylenol to control the fever, you are basically shutting down the healing response of the body. The child cannot eliminate the toxins from the vaccine.
What I think is the main reason is the vaccine manufacturers use mixed oils. Every food oil known to man is listed in the patents for vaccine adjuvants. And it says that they mix them. And from the occurance of other allergies appearing, such as "lupin" allergy, this seems to be the case. Shellfish oil, fish oil, soy oil, wheatgerm oil, evening primrose oil, rice oil, sesame oil...the list goes on and on.
The peanut oil used in the vaccines is also highly refined. There is only a trace of peanut protein in the oil. So it could basically be the "unluck of the draw". In a big batch of vaccine maybe only a couple of shots will contain that trace amount of peanut protein.

Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 11:12am
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The trace proteins in refined peanut oil in foods (baby formula, vitamin caps, etc.) have been proven to create and provoke allergy in certain people, children.

Posted on: Mon, 03/29/2010 - 12:20pm
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Vaccines are imperative unless you want children to get tetanus, measles, mumps, whooping cough, pneumonia, polio, and other horrible diseases. Should they make vaccines safe? Absolutely. Should we keep our kids away from vaccine because of possible side effects? Not generally, no. If we stop vaccinating, all these diseases come back. That's the way it works. The more kids that aren't vaccinated, the more people are at risk.
Like i've said in other posts, it's fine to hold an opinion that you don't like vaccines. But, my opinion is that vaccination is very important.

Posted on: Mon, 03/29/2010 - 12:50pm
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Hi, your comment is very Time magazine (summer, 2009), Canadian version. Are you a doctor?
I have never been anti-vaccination. You appear to have jumped to conclusions without asking that crucial question.
My goal is to open the discussion about vaccination and allergy, not to close it down. It is well known that vaccination can create allergy. Tetanus and diphtheria toxoids create massive levels of IgE and result in anaphylaxis -- long list of documentation and would be glad to list it. Doctors now report high levels of anaphylaxis following routine vaccination of kids simply because they are injecting a 5 in one needle, or 7 in one needle with aluminum adjuvant designed to provoke a general immune response. It's just too much.
And 25% of parents believe that current vax schedule has contributed to autism. At which point, with so many parents asking the same question (regardless of whether you believe them right or wrong), we as a society have run into a PROBLEM.
For example, if we have a dreadful disease and there is a great vaccine that can help BUT so many parents are already worried and tending not to vax because of the conditions they believe have already been created by over-vaccination -- you get my point. Parents will avoid the vaccine. It would seem the sensible thing to do.
It is time, by far, to OPEN the discussion not fearfully shut it down -- we are headed for trouble. We have 2%-3% of kids now with PA. Too many people are concerned and knowledgeable about the potential adverse effects. The autism community has led the way. They are large, angry, organised and powerful. We have reached a cross over point, as a society. Even a cursory look at the history of allergy, anaphylaxis and vaccination shows the clear and longstanding relationship. Just a little digging/reading -- check out Charles Richet, nobel prize winner for anaphylaxis -- he coined the term. Anaphylaxis is one of 3 outcomes of vaccination and sorry for those who develop it, but this is the price of "protecting" society says Richet as well as the gathering at the Simpsonwood meeting in 2000 over the relationship of mercury and autism ... http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1913/richet-lecture.html
At 3% in Australia for PA and 8% for all severe food allergies, it seems time to take had look at this proven method of sensitization.
Thanks for the feedback!

Posted on: Mon, 03/29/2010 - 12:54pm
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CASE IN POINT
Parents are not stupid and even the governments are issuing statements about anaphylaxis and vaccination in Canada:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/prodpharma/legislation/interimorders-arretesurgence/qual-vaccin-eng.php

Posted on: Mon, 03/29/2010 - 11:26pm
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I read an interesting study that concluded that the vaccines for measles and mumps puts the general public more at risk than the diseases. If I get measles and mumps, I have a lifetime immunity. Not so with vaccines. There was more but that is the general idea.
Robert Mendlesohn MD had these objections to vaccines:
1. There is no convincing scientific evidence that mass inoculations can be credited with eliminating any childhood disease."...
2. It is commonly believed that the Salk vaccine was responsible for halting the polio epidemics that plagued American children in the 1940s and 1950s. If so, why did the epidemics also end in Europe, where polio vaccine was not so extensively used?... Think of it! For 30 years kids died from smallpox vaccinations even though no longer threatened by the disease.
3. There are significant risks associated with every immunization and numerous contraindications that may make it dangerous for the shots to be given to your child...
4. While the myriad short-term hazards of most immunizations are known (but rarely explained), no one knows the long-term consequences of injecting foreign proteins into the body of your child. Even more shocking is the fact that no one is making any structured effort to find out.
5. There is a growing suspicion that immunization against relatively harmless childhood diseases may be responsible for the dramatic increase in autoimmune diseases since mass inoculations were introduced...
Dr. Bock says that vaccinations CAUSE illness:
"Mercury in the body promotes excessive activity of Th-2 cells. So does lead. So does aluminum. These heavy metals aggravate and overexcite the immune system, resulting in allergy, impaired immunity, and in autoimmunity, in which the immune system inadvertently attacks healthy tissues and organs."
"This skewing of immunity to Th-2 dominance makes it harder for people to fight off the viral, bacterial, and fungal infections that lie within their cells. It makes them prone to many common illnesses. The excess activity of Th-2 cells also triggers an overactive immune response, which can result in allergy and autoimmunity."
From Healing the New Childhood Epidemics, Autism, ADHD, Asthma, and Allergies by Kenneth Bock, M.D. and Cameron Stauth.
And Dr. Andrew Moulden says that all vaccinations cause ministrokes in children:
"Vaccines are like putting water on electrical fires."
So in "preventing" one illness, we have created epidemics of other chronic illnesses:
 
1 in 6 children in North America has specific learning disability
1 in 9 has asthma
1 in 87 is autistic (It used to be 1 in 10,000 in the pre-vaccine era)
15% of the children with attention deficit disorder, all on Ritalin
1% sudden infant death
Parents and caregivers across the world in prison for alleged shaken baby syndrome - it is all vaccine damage ...
1 in 15 over 55 with dementia, the Alzheimer's type
1 in 7 over 75 with dementia
1 in 2 if you're a male with developed cancer
1 in 3 if you're a female
Chronic fatigue syndrome
Fibromyalgia
Gulf War I and Gulf War II  - 750,000 deaths, 250,000 on chronic disability, 42,000 are dead
The last swine flu vaccine in 1976 caused 4,000 cases of Guillain-Barré Syndrome
Only soldiers from the United States, Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom received the anthrax vaccine. There is not a single reported case of GWS among our allies: the KUWAITIS, EGYPTIANS, or ISRAELI.... There were 37 nations in the Gulf War. Why were there only 4 that came down with the GWS?
http://www.brainguardmd.com/index.asp - Dr. Andrew Moulden
Most people recognize advertising hype when it comes to new toys for your kids. Why don't your recognize the hype when it comes to the swine flu vaccine and other vaccines?

Posted on: Wed, 03/31/2010 - 5:48am
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Question for you, Heather. How is it that peanut oil doesn't appear on the package insert for vaccines? The FDA has lists of approved substances that can be used in medicines. Peanut oil isn't listed any where?

Posted on: Wed, 03/31/2010 - 6:11am
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THE PEANUT OIL LABEL DEBATE: largely unknown to the public, government and doctors have expressed concern regarding the allergenicity of refined peanut oil in processed foods and pharmaceuticals including vaccines. And they debated whether or not it should be labeled.
IN FOODS: Refined peanut oil has been shown to sensitize and cause reactions. The most highly refined peanut oils contain trace levels of intact proteins, up to 0.2-2.2 ug/ml. Lower refined peanut oil could contain 3-6 ug/ml of protein. Thus in 2004, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) investigated and concluded that refined peanut oil in foodstuffs could cause reactions and that according to their guidelines it must appear on food labels. With the same information, the WHO in 2000 concluded the opposite -- that the oil in foodstuffs did not need to be labeled. The US FDA followed suit, acknowledging the presence of the proteins but because it had GRAS (generally recognized as safe) it did not need to be labeled.
IN INJECTED DRUGS: where the oil appears in parenteral drugs such as vaccines used in Europe, labeling arachis oil on package leaflets as of 2001 was an expectation of EMEA, Euro Medicines Agency. It was expected although not a law that manufacturers should warn users of peanut oil used in any pharmaceutical product. In the US, labeling the oil in vaccines and drugs remained voluntary as well. The FDA has indicated that inactive ingredients that present an increased risk of toxic effects should be noted in the Contraindications, Warnings or Precautions sections of drug/vaccine labels/inserts.
This labeling option in the US, Canada is supported by law. The exact composition of vaccines cannot and will not be disclosed under an exemption that protects business information with the Access to Information Act in Canada and the Freedom of Information Act in the US. Similarly, trade secrets are also exempt under the British Freedom of Information Act.
Thus the guidelines to label refined peanut oil/moral obligation to label peanut oil are in conflict with laws protecting trade secrets. Full disclosure of excipients was not and continues not to be general practice in the US or Canada.
Labeling has become a matter of least legal exposure within carefully worded vaccine product monographs.

Posted on: Thu, 04/01/2010 - 12:28am
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I found that interesting about peanut and soy oils. I found some references on line about GRAS. The way I understand it...
The FDA no longer "approves" things as GRAS. They let the manufacturer submit some studies from an "independent research council". What I found weird was the sentence
"Alternatively, a company can self-affirm GRAS after conducting all necessary research and forming an independent panel to determine its safety. To self-affirm, the company needs to be confident that it could defend the safety of its ingredient based on this process." http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Product-Categories/Food-safety-and-labe...
WHAT the "H" does that mean? It sounds like the vaccine manufacturers can decide that all highly refined oils are GRAS on their own.
And if that is the case, then that is why I found the following patent for a "A stabilized pharmaceutical oil-in-water emulsion" to be used in all kinds of drugs and vaccines:
"wherein the oil phase further comprises almond oil; babassu oil; borage oil; black currant seed oil; canola oil; castor oil; coconut oil; corn oil; cottonseed oil; emu oil; evening primrose oil; flax seed oil; grapeseed oil; groundnut oil; mustard seed oil; olive oil; palm oil; palm kernel oil; peanut oil; rapeseed oil; safflower oil; sesame oil; shark liver oil; soybean oil; sunflower oil; hydrogenated castor oil; hydrogenated coconut oil; hydrogenated palm oil; hydrogenated soybean oil; hydrogenated vegetable oil; a mixture of hydrogenated cottonseed oil and hydrogenated castor oil; partially hydrogenated soybean oil; a mixture of partially hydrogenated soybean oil and partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil; glyceryl trioleate; glyceryl trilinoleate; glyceryl trilinolenate; a ?3 polyunsaturated fatty acid triglyceride containing oil; or a mixture thereof."
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6720001/claims.html
I found these patents for all kinds of vaccine adjuvants and culture mediums that use all different kinds of food. Why would people take out patents and so many of them, without intending on using any of them?
I wrote the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER):
" Aluminum in the form of alum, aluminum hydroxide or phosphate is the only adjuvants used in U.S. licensed vaccines and there is no oil in those adjuvants. The adjuvant, as well as, certain inactive ingredients must appear on the package label. General requirements for the package labeling can be found in 21 CFR 610.61."
So basically they are saying that the oil is not in the adjuvant so that is not a lie. It is interesting that the "certain inactive ingredients must appear..." but not all inactive ingredients.
Kinda splitting hairs. As long as they add the oil separate from the adjuvant.... it's ok.... and it is GRAS if the oil is refined as much as the approved soy and peanut oils because it can be self approved as GRAS by the vaccine manufacturer?

Posted on: Fri, 04/02/2010 - 9:50am
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hfraser,
Are you saying that it is a fact that vaccines cause food allergies? I may not be reading you the right way. The thing is, that's certainly *not* the case. We do not know the cause of food allergies. There are only theories. The things about the theory that they are caused by vaccines is that there are plenty of children (my son is one but there are many) who had their first symptoms of food allergies before they got any vaccines and also children who don't get vaccinated who have food allergies as well.
People can have allergic reactions *to* vaccines. Is that what you meant?

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