fussy baby- only at neighbors house

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:41am
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A friend called tonight and asked about allergy ideas. I told her i would post it on here. She has a 4 month old baby that gets very fussy whenever she goes to the babysitters but is fine other times and at other peoples houses. She stays with her grandmother and other friends but cries and fusses so much when at the babysitters that she spits up. Usually it starts after being their about 20 min. Does not seem to have anything to do with feeding or noise level. Any ideas? The babysitter is very clean and uses environmentally friendly cleaning products. The baby nurses, drinks breast milk from a bottle and i think eats some rice cereal.

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Lalow
James 4 yrs, NKA
Ben 3 yrs, PA and MA and SA

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:45am
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Does the mother notice this, or is this what the babysitter is telling her about the baby?

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:54am
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the mother is the one that was asking. i think she has noticed it and the babysitter has told her as well. she told me it happens when they are over there and she is still there cause they are friends as well as her babysitter.
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Lalow
James 4 yrs, NKA
Ben 3 yrs, PA and MA and SA
[This message has been edited by lalow (edited November 01, 2006).]

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:55am
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I would suggest that the absolutely MOST likely culprit here is a "personal" problem that bebe is having with someone at the sitter's... Or some aspect of the environment there. Light level in a room, a particular picture, you know, that kind of thing.
Our DD was so sensitive to visual stimuli that this was a serious problem as well until she was about 8 mo... then she could get away, I think.

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:59am
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they thaught at first it was the girls playing together. they have a 3 year old girl and the babysitter has a couple of girls and they squeal (sp?) but apparently it isnt just them.

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 11:00am
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Does anyone at the babysitter`s house smoke?

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 11:16am
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i dont believe so to the smoking question.

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 11:39am
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Any pets? Any air freshening products being used?

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 9:25pm
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It's so hard to figure out what the problem is. I had a simialr problem. My daughter (now 5) when she was a baby would always fuss at a friends house. ONLY her house. I never left her there alone - this was always while I was there. Something in the house made her miserable.
She had a cat & a dog and I think that, even though her house was VERY clean, was the heart of the problem.
When my daughter was tested she came up positive to just about everything enviromentally. Very high to cat, dogs, dust, mold etc etc.
Actually, now that I type that . . could it be mold? Is it an older house? mold is something you wouldn;t neccessarily "notice" and is in even the cleanest of houses.
It could alos be seasonal? Maybe a tree by a window? 4 months old . . . has this ALWAYS been the case?
HTH
Deb
OH I had a thought! Can she plug in a air purifier in the room where the baby spends most the time? See if there is a difference
[This message has been edited by JessicasMom (edited November 02, 2006).]
[This message has been edited by JessicasMom (edited November 02, 2006).]

Posted on: Thu, 11/02/2006 - 1:12am
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Quote:Originally posted by lalow:
[b]and uses environmentally friendly cleaning products.
[/b]
I'm wondering if it is something in the environmentally friendly cleaning products because sometimes they might use natural ingrediants like oils from fruit or nuts. Can they check the labels.

Posted on: Thu, 11/02/2006 - 1:16am
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If the mother is sure that it isn't something about the Babysitter, herself, that is the problem (like something she does that the baby doesn't like) -- then, if I were the Mom, I would go and observe for the day. I'd watch what the woman does, what the other kids do, pay attention to anything that would be a sensory experience in anyway for the baby. Things to watch for, for me, would be:
Does the babysitter smell -- like perfume, hairspray, smoke, etc. Or does anyone else in the house
Does her house smell -- or does where she mainly takes care of the kids have odors -- including anteseptic odors or even heavy odors that come from cooking food
Are there appliances that make noises - buzzing flourescent lights in the kitchen, humming frig, high pitched ringing off of a TV, etc.
Are there specific toys that the kids gravitate to that make noise
What is the temperature like -- does the babysitter pay attention to the environmental temperature and then put on or take off the baby's blanket or thicker clothing to make sure the baby is comfortable
What is the decor like -- are there lots of colors and shapes -- things that might create a sensory overload (there could be lots of kids making noise, toys, TV's and stuff all over from floor to ceiling)
Those are all I could think of right now -- but really, I'd go, observe, go through every one of my senses and see just what could be there that is causing the baby to be so fussy. It could be something as simple as not having the bottle at the right temperature -- or the babysitter being perfumed. I, for one, wouldn't necessarily leave the baby there though if I couldn't figure it out.

Posted on: Thu, 11/02/2006 - 4:07am
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What about ceiling fans (or any fan for that matter) either blowing on baby or making noise or visual stimulation?

Posted on: Thu, 11/02/2006 - 5:59am
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I personally would take my child out! She's 4 months old so she can't talk so fussing to me would be her way of communicating that something is not right... What's not right? Who knows and I wouldn't stick around to find out!
This reminded me of a story my friend told me... when her daughter was 9 months old she would always grip on to her as soon as they got to the babysitters house and cry as soon as the babysitter took her out of her arms... she thought she was just being a mommy suck so didnt give it much thought since the babysitter seemed VERY sweet and seemed sad the baby was reacting this way... she one day got off early and decided to check things out... her baby was screaming and the babysitter was yelling at her to "shut up" She went around back where there was glass sliding doors and to her horror she watched babysitter yank her baby out of the playpen by one arm and that was it... she was out of that daycare
Anyhow I am not saying that is what is going on AT ALL!!! I just would rather be safe than sorry!!!! (this is of course just my opinion)
Stacey

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:45am
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Does the mother notice this, or is this what the babysitter is telling her about the baby?

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:54am
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the mother is the one that was asking. i think she has noticed it and the babysitter has told her as well. she told me it happens when they are over there and she is still there cause they are friends as well as her babysitter.
------------------
Lalow
James 4 yrs, NKA
Ben 3 yrs, PA and MA and SA
[This message has been edited by lalow (edited November 01, 2006).]

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:55am
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I would suggest that the absolutely MOST likely culprit here is a "personal" problem that bebe is having with someone at the sitter's... Or some aspect of the environment there. Light level in a room, a particular picture, you know, that kind of thing.
Our DD was so sensitive to visual stimuli that this was a serious problem as well until she was about 8 mo... then she could get away, I think.

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 10:59am
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they thaught at first it was the girls playing together. they have a 3 year old girl and the babysitter has a couple of girls and they squeal (sp?) but apparently it isnt just them.

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 11:00am
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Does anyone at the babysitter`s house smoke?

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 11:16am
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i dont believe so to the smoking question.

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 11:39am
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Any pets? Any air freshening products being used?

Posted on: Wed, 11/01/2006 - 9:25pm
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It's so hard to figure out what the problem is. I had a simialr problem. My daughter (now 5) when she was a baby would always fuss at a friends house. ONLY her house. I never left her there alone - this was always while I was there. Something in the house made her miserable.
She had a cat & a dog and I think that, even though her house was VERY clean, was the heart of the problem.
When my daughter was tested she came up positive to just about everything enviromentally. Very high to cat, dogs, dust, mold etc etc.
Actually, now that I type that . . could it be mold? Is it an older house? mold is something you wouldn;t neccessarily "notice" and is in even the cleanest of houses.
It could alos be seasonal? Maybe a tree by a window? 4 months old . . . has this ALWAYS been the case?
HTH
Deb
OH I had a thought! Can she plug in a air purifier in the room where the baby spends most the time? See if there is a difference
[This message has been edited by JessicasMom (edited November 02, 2006).]
[This message has been edited by JessicasMom (edited November 02, 2006).]

Posted on: Thu, 11/02/2006 - 1:12am
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Quote:Originally posted by lalow:
[b]and uses environmentally friendly cleaning products.
[/b]
I'm wondering if it is something in the environmentally friendly cleaning products because sometimes they might use natural ingrediants like oils from fruit or nuts. Can they check the labels.

Posted on: Thu, 11/02/2006 - 1:16am
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If the mother is sure that it isn't something about the Babysitter, herself, that is the problem (like something she does that the baby doesn't like) -- then, if I were the Mom, I would go and observe for the day. I'd watch what the woman does, what the other kids do, pay attention to anything that would be a sensory experience in anyway for the baby. Things to watch for, for me, would be:
Does the babysitter smell -- like perfume, hairspray, smoke, etc. Or does anyone else in the house
Does her house smell -- or does where she mainly takes care of the kids have odors -- including anteseptic odors or even heavy odors that come from cooking food
Are there appliances that make noises - buzzing flourescent lights in the kitchen, humming frig, high pitched ringing off of a TV, etc.
Are there specific toys that the kids gravitate to that make noise
What is the temperature like -- does the babysitter pay attention to the environmental temperature and then put on or take off the baby's blanket or thicker clothing to make sure the baby is comfortable
What is the decor like -- are there lots of colors and shapes -- things that might create a sensory overload (there could be lots of kids making noise, toys, TV's and stuff all over from floor to ceiling)
Those are all I could think of right now -- but really, I'd go, observe, go through every one of my senses and see just what could be there that is causing the baby to be so fussy. It could be something as simple as not having the bottle at the right temperature -- or the babysitter being perfumed. I, for one, wouldn't necessarily leave the baby there though if I couldn't figure it out.

Posted on: Thu, 11/02/2006 - 4:07am
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What about ceiling fans (or any fan for that matter) either blowing on baby or making noise or visual stimulation?

Posted on: Thu, 11/02/2006 - 5:59am
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I personally would take my child out! She's 4 months old so she can't talk so fussing to me would be her way of communicating that something is not right... What's not right? Who knows and I wouldn't stick around to find out!
This reminded me of a story my friend told me... when her daughter was 9 months old she would always grip on to her as soon as they got to the babysitters house and cry as soon as the babysitter took her out of her arms... she thought she was just being a mommy suck so didnt give it much thought since the babysitter seemed VERY sweet and seemed sad the baby was reacting this way... she one day got off early and decided to check things out... her baby was screaming and the babysitter was yelling at her to "shut up" She went around back where there was glass sliding doors and to her horror she watched babysitter yank her baby out of the playpen by one arm and that was it... she was out of that daycare
Anyhow I am not saying that is what is going on AT ALL!!! I just would rather be safe than sorry!!!! (this is of course just my opinion)
Stacey

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