First Communion

Posted on: Mon, 05/17/1999 - 3:52am
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Our daughter recently had her first communion at our church. First Communions are a fairly big deal in the Catholic church and there was a lot of build-up leading up to this day from my daughters religon classes as well as from us. Needless to say she was very excited as the day approached. We attempted to take precautions such as phoning the convent where the hosts are baked(no nuts ever used there) and telling our daughter she couldn't drink the wine since the cup is shared by many, which poses a lot of problems. One of which is, of course, contamination by someone who ate peanut butter for breakfast. Thinking we had covered things,which we know you can never do but try anyways, we went confidently to the Mass. Lo and behold during the mass, just before the priest was to pass out the Host to the children he pulls a peanut out of his pocket,breaks it open and eats the nuts. He was trying to make some point which was lost on my wife and I since the second we heard "peanut" we zoned out. I proceeded to make a fool out of myself(would do again though) running up a down the aisles during the mass trying to get a hold a someone to help us out. In the end my daughter's religon teacher handled the situation by quitely stepping in and giving the Host to my daughter instead of the priest giving it. Of course this highlighted a glaring error in our preparations and that is, How clean ,peanut free, are the hands of the people who pass out communion every sunday? We are too frightened to allow our daughter to take communion as of now and she is quite upset since we told her for months that she would be able to do so once she had her first communion. We plan on discussing this with our parish but I was wondering if anyone out there has dealt with this issue already and might have a tip or two as to how to handle this?

Posted on: Mon, 05/17/1999 - 6:16am
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Greg, our daughter also made her First Communion this month and although she is not the peanut allergic one, we get to go through this with our son in 3 years. I can just imagine the sheer terror you and your wife felt at the point when the priest pulled out the peanut. We had to forego the reception because we had our son with us and peanuts and baked goods were everywhere. We took her out to lunch instead so she wouldn't feel so badly about missing the reception. It's hard when it is supposed to be their "special" day and there are so many contributing factors involved.
Have you or your wife thought about becoming Euchuristic Ministers so you can give your daughter communion?
When I was pre-registering my 5 year old peanut anaphylactic son and daughter for CCD next year, a mother was in the office meeting with the priest telling him not to use any of the wheat hosts for her daughter. There are so many factors you cannot think of until you are smack dab in the middle of it.
I hope someone else has encountered this and can help.
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Posted on: Mon, 05/17/1999 - 8:57pm
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Greg most churches are very helpful.
If you have a meeting with the priest and all assistant pastors and explain the situation, they are generally very understanding. You can arrange a special sign (a discreet nod each time that your daughter comes forward with you for communion) and the rule is "no nod, no communion"
Many of these folks have, in our area, spoken to the whole congregation and educated them about peanut allergy during a mass.
It is not an unreasonable request to ask them to post a sign in their own bathroom reminding them that they need to wash their hands thoroughly before mass ie.communion. I am assuming that there is always a priest or assistant administering communion, as well as volunteers...just choose their line up.
Also for smaller children at church (where many kind, sweet older folk offer candies and gum etc. to children that they don't really know), many people in our area post a large picture and large print (easy read for older eyes) attached with all necessary basic information. "Please do not give this child anything to eat" etc. Not only will the congregation help to protect your child, they will ask you many questions about this topic and your whole community will be better educated.

Posted on: Tue, 05/18/1999 - 2:37am
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Thanks for the ideas! I don't know why but it never occured to me that becoming an Euchuristic Minister could be a possible solution. I've flirted with the idea of becoming one before, but for other reasons. There are numerous volunteers and since they go up straight from the congregation there is no way to ensure they wash their hands before hand.
Probably the first step will be to start educating the congregation on peanut allergies. That method worked well when our daugther started school, so it should work well in this situation. They way things have been going lately I wouldn't be surpised to find out that one of the existing Euchuristic Ministers has a peanut allergy themselves.
Thanks again for the help!

Posted on: Fri, 06/04/1999 - 11:40am
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Greg, have you had a chance to speak with all parties concerned regarding communion for your daughter, and if so, what was the outcome? I was just curious as several Sundays have passed since your daughter made her First Communion and I was wondering how you handled the situation and if your Parish was accomodating to you and your family.
Others, at some point, will be in the same boat(myself included)and any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Stay Safe!

Posted on: Sat, 06/05/1999 - 3:08am
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Hi sorry I didn't update sooner. We sat down and talked with the Parish Priests about a week and a half ago. They were very interested in what we had to say and were open to any suggestions we had. We ended up with mainly two solutions. The first was that my daughter will only accept communion from them and not any Eucheristic Ministers. Both priests told us they NEVER eat peanut butter in the AM before mass,In fact the Pastor who broke open and ate the peanut during first communion told us he is not particularly fond of peanuts and doesn't eat them anyway. Also as a habit, both wash their hands well just before starting mass. The second solution is for me to become a Eucheristic Minister. Needless to say they were thrilled to have another person lending a hand and it is the ideal way to for us to ensure that nobody with peanut residue on their hands gives her communion. Once again our daughter's allergy has caused us to become more involved in the community then we probably would have been, and we are better for it (and having fun too!). Hope some of this helps, and take care.

Posted on: Sat, 06/05/1999 - 11:34pm
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Greg,
This is great news!! I'm so glad things worked out for you and your family...and your parish.
Stay Safe!

Posted on: Sun, 06/06/1999 - 6:34am
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Hi Greg. I'm new to this board and was just saying to my husband that communion will be a problem! I'm glad everything worked out for you but I have one more question and maybe I'm really going overboard but what about when these priests shake everyone's hands (sign of peace)? It always bothered me because of spreading germs but now I have to worry about peanut exposure. Also, everyone always wants to shake my daughters hand- do you let your daughter? We are new to town and people don't know us so its hard not to offend people when you only have 2 seconds to explain. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks

Posted on: Mon, 06/07/1999 - 12:44am
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Hi Kelly,
Welcome to the board. Those are questions me and my wife did discuss between us and I guess the best way to describe what we decided is that we just can't let our worrying go that far. There has to be some point when you stop considering worst case scenarios, otherwise this allergy would drive us all crazy. We do let our daughter shake hands and through her 8 years has never had a reaction from doing so. Our priest does go out and shake a few hands,but not everyone's and the odds of any significant amount of peanut residue ending up on the tips of the priests forefinger and thumb (this is how everyone I've ever gone to hands out the Eucherist) are next to none. I should point out we always attend Sunday AM mass, where the odds of peanut contamination are less then at a Sat PM mass.
While I suppose someone could argue that if the risk is there it should be avoided,no matter how small the risk, for me and my wife this passess the point we set for ourselves and our daughter where worry about the allergy begins to affect life just a bit too much. This is not to say the concern is not there. I'm sure everyone on this board would agree that it is a daily struggle to keep from being overprotective. But it is our belief that at this point the benefits far outweigh any risks. I hope I didn't come off as "preaching" here, I just wanted to let you know how we ourselves approach this issue.
As far as letting people know about the allergies, we were in the same boat 5 years ago. We were new to town and new to the allergy ourselves. We just took things one at a time. If we didn't have enough time to explain things after offending someone,and that happened alot, we always went out of our way afterward to track them down and explain properly. It could be minutes after, sometimes it was days and weeks after but we almost always managed to explain. Everyone we have ever met, we've never hesitated to bring up our daughters allergy. Were we annoying sometimes?, I guess so, but it was heartening and, if the situation hadn't been so serious, almost comical to see 1/3 of the congregation turn and look at my wife and I when the Priest cracked open the peanut during her first communion. We had dozens of people,both friends and strangers come up to us afterwards and tell us they thought of us when he opened the peanut. I'm sure there are probably better and quicker ways to get the allergy message across, but looking back it worked out pretty well for ourselves.

Posted on: Mon, 06/07/1999 - 1:58am
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Thanks, Greg. We do let our daughter shake hands, but since I started reading this site, my nerves are shot. I try to be very normal with her, but its hard. We don't know if smell or touch affects her- maybe that's why its so hard. Thanks again.

Posted on: Sun, 01/07/2001 - 1:54am
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PattyR,
I wanted to bring this thread to the top so you could read it and hopefully it will help.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/22/2002 - 12:15pm
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Communion in our church involves eating the Holy Bread made in someone's home (with ???nut contaminated spoon, etc????) and eating from a common chalis with a common spoon (that goes into everyone's mouth!!).
So, if this is Holy Bread and the body and blood of Christ in the Chalis, then shouldn't it all be safe because it is what it is? And does God protect a food allergic child in those instances? Or, on the other hand, are they both possibly cross contaminated and should it be avoided just like any other food not made at home?
My DH and I are having a heated debate on this topic tonight.
He thinks that it is safe to take the body and blood of Christ from a common spoon that goes into everyone's mouth!! I say not, not if you can have an anaphylactic reaction to cross contaminants!! Why not kiss everyone there?

Posted on: Sun, 09/22/2002 - 7:29pm
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I never even gave any consideration to wether or not the host could be contaminated, but I've never reacted to one.
I seriously can't believe that a spoon is used and that people share in the wine though! Here in Ireland the priest offers the host with his hand and you choose to either let him put it in your mouth or on your hand. Only Ministers of the Eucharist drink from the chalice.

Posted on: Sun, 09/22/2002 - 8:11pm
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Gwen I would love to see your church in Ireland. I bet it is beautiful. Our Bread is not is not contaminted and is not made in the home of the parishoners. Our whine is shared with the whole church and I have never participated in the whine. I always taught my kids to only take the bread not the wine. My son has never had a problem with communion and will continue to recieve.
ALWAYSAVOID- HOW DO you know that the spoon is contaminated and that is may contain nuts? The bread should be no more that water and flour. Unleaved bread should have nothing in it. Good luck on the decision.

Posted on: Sun, 09/22/2002 - 8:19pm
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Now, this is a wide-open topic. Wow!
COMMUNION.
I take Communion in our (Anglican) Church on Sundays. We have specially-prepared "wafers" for the Body, which are like "rice-paper" and they are only handled by the Rector (Priest). There is no danger of nut-products here : they are produced by an Ecclesiastical supplier and they are considered "pure".
Before the preparation and distribution of the Host commences, the Rector uses the lavabo (bowl of water) & a cloth to clean her fingertips. The wafer is then placed into the hands of the Communicants. If is is considered appropriate, the Rector will place the wafer directly into the mouth of the Communicant, or she will let you take one yourself from the paten once they have been blessed.
Some people then retain the wafer (rather than consuming it immediately) and then dip it in the wine when the chalice is presented, thereby removing all chance of any contamination of any sort.
As for the wine for the Blood, the chalice is normally given to each Communicant to take a sip, but is given a 1/4 turn (by the Server) and wiped with a "purificator" cloth as well, between each person.
I know this is always done, as I am usually on Sacristan duty and assist with the setting-up & clearing-away of the Altar & the Host. I am also the Secretary to the Church Council, so get personally involved in such policies and procedures : we discuss issues such as the above and review them (within the guidelines) if they appear to be causing problems or making people uncomfortable.
To my knowledge, nobody has ever had any problems caused by the above : we consider that the alcohol in the wine assists in the "cleaning" of the chalice.
THE PEACE (holding of hands)
We do exchange the Peace by the holding of hands - but there is no obligaiton to do this. Additionally, if it is considered more suitable (I *hate* clammy handshakes LOL), then we take the arm / shoulder of the other person, thereby avoiding skin contact. With some smaller children, they actually prefer to NOT shake hands. Some like to give others a gentle hug or clasp - each to their own.
Hope this may give some food (no pun intended!) for thought!
Nick (the only PA person in our congregation)

Posted on: Mon, 09/23/2002 - 1:24am
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Re: "we consider that the alcohol in the wine assists in the "cleaning" of the chalice."
As I understand it, this would be useless with peanut protein. Protein is not a living thing like a virus or bacteria. It cannot be sterilized away. It must be completely scrubbed away.

Posted on: Mon, 09/23/2002 - 1:49am
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Yup, River, that's why I used the " " on the word "cleaning" : it is only the "best shot" we can give w/o using some rotten, smelly, awful-tasting cleaning agent (yuk!), so anyone who is worried "dips" the wafer in the wine.
The thing is, here in the UK, we are not surrounded by the omniprescent peanut (thankfully!) and eating in Church (as against at functions in the Church Hall, where sharing a meal is part of the experience) is condisered rude, so we don't have food on the premises. It's not "banned", per se, but it is appreciated that the service only lasts an hour, and most people can last that long without snacking.
OK, someone MAY have had PB on toast for breakfast (I have to admit that I used to do that sometimes before I developed the allergy, and I do sometimes with I still could !!), but I'm fairly sure that most of our congregation, being aware of the sharing of the chalice, would also have cleaned their teeth before coming out to Church. Yeah, I know it's a bit unhygenic, but it has been done that way for centuries.
It is one of those risks we try to minimise, without being paranoid about it. So far, so good! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img])

Posted on: Mon, 09/23/2002 - 4:44am
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WOW, did this thread bring back memories! I mentioned in my post to Greg about my daughter making her First Communion and wouldn't have to worry about my PA son making his for another 3 years...it's been 3 years; he made it back in May. YIKES!! How time flies!
We hold hands during the "Lord's Prayer" so my son ALWAYS sits on the end of the Pew so the only hand he has to hold is mine. (He loves sitting on the end anyway).
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Posted on: Mon, 09/23/2002 - 11:36am
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In our church, everyone who takes communion is fed from the chalice with the same spoon. So, if someone had a pecan roll for breakfast then, pecan protein is in the chalice and may have been the person before our DS so then he would have pecan protein on the spoon and anaphylaxis here we come.
i have discussed this with so many people today!! I came across someone who knows the Bible inside and out and she quoted a scripture that said that God wants us to be streetwise and it is up to us to keep ourselves safe.
The risk of cross contamination from a communal chalice and from a home baked Holy bread is too risky for me to let my DS eat it.
interesting thread!! It is a wide open topic. In fact, that was the basis of terrorism and is why we are in Afghanistan----all religion based stuff.

Posted on: Wed, 09/25/2002 - 3:10am
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Wow. I am both surprised and validated by this discussion. My PA daughter is only 4, but I have already worried about communion, and my husband thought I was really way out there. My son is making communion this year, and I will be asking some questions about this, so I can be prepared for the future...and raise some awareness for now. Thank you, all.

Posted on: Wed, 09/25/2002 - 8:50am
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Wow, a bit of a shock to see this thread pop up. Time sure flies. My daughter has gotten around most of the worry of cross contamination by becoming an Alter server. Now she basically has first shot at the Host and the Wine. She enjoys helping and it takes a lot of the worry off our minds.
Greg

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Re-raising for Linda-Jo.
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Posted on: Wed, 11/09/2005 - 3:19am
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Re raising this subject for advice please. Becky's class is to take communion as part of religious education at school tomorrow. Thankfully, she's had the sense to ask me if this will be safe, my first fear was the contents of the communion wafer, but after reading this post its more of a contamination issue. How do others deal with this please? Thanks, Jayne.

Posted on: Wed, 11/09/2005 - 10:41am
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When my dd made her first communion last year, she was the first to drink from the cup. Since then, she takes only the host and we have had no problems since. Good Luck.

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punkinsmom
I'll follow your advice. Thank you. Jayne

Posted on: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 4:11am
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When my PA DD received First Communion two years ago, they didn't let the kids drink from the cup, only receive the host. In our church, they felt it was a decision for the parents each week thereafter if they wanted their child to drink from the cup. I do not let my DD drink from the cup, neither do I.

Posted on: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 3:03pm
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When we began having HIV positive and AIDS people in the congregations in this area in the late 80's there was a lot of anxiety about sharing the chalice. This was when not drinking from the chalice suddenly became much more common. It's only increased since then over last two decades.
A great many people dip the host in the wine like it was a french dip sandwich instead of sipping wine from the chalice lip.
One of the churches I attend has what it calls "dippers" and "sippers". One chalice bearer has a dipper and another chalice bearer has a sipper. People who are more worried about germs and people who know they shouldn't be sharing are encouraged to dip the host or bread. Those who wish to sip can do so. In that case the "sippy" chalice is wiped by the purificator and turned.
The churches do this different ways- sometimes there are designated stations or areas at the altar rail. Or two chalice bearers. You signal you are a dipper by holding up the bread or host in your right hand after you recive from the paten. Then the appropriate chalice bearer comes forward to you as they proceed together along the altar rail.
In the children's masses, there are no sippers allowed. So my kids became dippers from the very first.

Posted on: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 7:35pm
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Saras first penance (sp) is coming up in a few wks, and she needs to write down her sins... She's 7. She has sins, kwim?
DW and I find this silly. Sara's worried about what she's done in the past...
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Posted on: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 11:19pm
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Just to update, Becky decided not to attend rather than make a fuss, it so sad when pa affects young lives like this.

Posted on: Fri, 11/11/2005 - 6:29am
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Jason...I'm a CCD teacher for 2nd graders. This question comes up many times by my students. They are often afraid of the unknown and what its going to be like talking "face to face" with a priest all dressed in those fancy robes!
We talk about their fears for weeks before the actual Penance service and our priest comes over to talk with them to put them at ease. As for the sins, I tell them at this age they really don't have any sins, but ask them to think about things that they may have done that they weren't happy about.
For instance, we talk about if they disobeyed one of their parents. If they have a sibling, were they mean to him/her or even mean to a friend and hurt their feelings. We go over the difference between a 'mistake', an 'accident', and a 'sin', and I tell them a 'sin' is something you do on purpose.
By the time penance comes, if they really don't think they have anything to tell the priest which is often the case, I let them knw it's OK to tell the priest, "I don't have any sins" and the priest takes it from there.
Only once, I had a child totally afraid and freaked out about going up to the priest. The poor little guy was shaking! I walked up with him, talking to him all the time to try to calm him down and he finally walked up to the priest and yelled, "I don't have any sins!" The priest smiled at him and just started talking to him and he was fine. When he finished, he walked back to me and said "Wow, that wasn't so bad at all!"

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TYVM.
She's VERY nervous about it [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 11/15/2005 - 11:31pm
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Jason...Are you going to be at the Penance service? Tell her that when she's feeling anxious, she can just look out into the benches where you'll be sitting and get a reassuring glance from you!
Also, maybe you can walk her up to the altar where she will be talking with the priest, talking with her all the way up and then reassuring her you'll be right there when she finishes. Tell her its just like talking to a friend. And, not to worry about having any sins, as I said, most kids this age do not. Just say, "I can't think of any sins" and the priest will take it from there. In our church, the priests are really very nice.
I know this can be very stressful for little kids, but I know she'll be fine!

Posted on: Mon, 11/21/2005 - 1:20pm
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Just have to say: "dipping" is called "intinction" and certainly predates our health concerns.

Posted on: Tue, 01/31/2006 - 4:55pm
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Never had a problem with the wafer, although for a while we had this weird bread stuff that freaked me out when I was a kid. Sipping from the cup always seemed soo unhealthy to me, I always skipped it. Never thought of the cross contamination thing, though.

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Jason....how did your DD do at the Penance service? My CCD class was so nervous, to the point of vomiting! We had class the other day and I asked them how they felt about it. They said, "That was easy!" It was just their fear of the unknown.

Posted on: Tue, 08/08/2006 - 12:13am
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There are a lot of great ideas on this thread, thanks everyone. My son will be making his first communion in May 2007, and is PA and TNA. We are struggling with our comfort zone, and entertaining all possibilities at this point. I like the idea of having him drink from the chalice first, or perhaps a separate chalice. This would be a one time thing, not every week, and the children have a choice about the wine, so he might choose not to. At our church, the parishioners, and the priests do the sign of peace (hand shaking) before communion, so I have concerns about the priest touching the host. I have an article from the Hartford Courant, Saturday, March 26, 2005, titled

Posted on: Tue, 08/08/2006 - 7:31am
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We use a pyx.
Communion at our church is safe (bread only--we don't take the wine). At the sink behind the altar is a sign requesting that the eucharistic ministers (EMs) wash hands first because there are children in the parish with life-threatening food allergies. (Our pastor is allergic to peanuts so he is very understanding).
But at DD's school they use bread made in people's homes for communion. I would never let her have that. The Sunday before a school Mass we go to our church and get a consecrated host in a pyx. DD brings this to school in her fanny pack. The teachers are the EMs and know about her allergies. She hands the pyx to the EM and they remove the host and hand it to her. I think it was pretty lenient, liberal and generous of our pastor to allow a (very responsible) 7 y.o. (9 y.o. now) to carry a consecrated host to school.
Our solution might not work if we were travelling and couldn't find a church with safe hosts. We could always bring one with us, but it might be hard to get the priest or EM at a different church to cooperate. We haven't had to deal with this yet.
Good luck.

Posted on: Thu, 08/10/2006 - 1:15am
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The priest at our church is allergic to just about everything all nuts included, so I would think it would have to be safe for PA. But my son it only 2 so still have quite a few years before we deal with this.

Posted on: Thu, 08/10/2006 - 1:52am
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this will not be helpful...but it is kind of cute....
when i took my oldest daughter to church as a toddler (she's my non-pa kid), it was very quiet as everyone was taking communion together. we were using a cracker type wafer and tiny glass of grapejuice (like a shot glass!).
as the sanctuary was silent and people were praying, my daughter shouted out...."mmmmm...good! mommy, i want more snack!" of course, as i shhh'd her, she continued to shout it out with more urgency. over and over.
another time, we were in a methodist church and a teenage boy had brought his new girlfriend to church with him. at this particular church, the members tore a small bit of bread from the loaf and then dipped it into the challis of "wine." the girlfriend watched everyone, including boyfriend, in front of her do this but somehow got confused anyhow. she ate her bit of bread and then grabbed the challis away from the pastor and took a big ol' drink off of it. everyone was kind of stunned. i had no pa children old enough to partake at the time but it would have been a concern if i had. i did feel sorry for her, it must have been embarrassing.

Posted on: Thu, 08/10/2006 - 7:20am
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If I may be allowed to submit my comments ...
(I am PA / SA.)
We do not have a problem with allergies in our Church. We will accommodate! The Christian thing to do.
That aside ... I am one of the team who sets up the Altar; prepares the Host etc. I also am licensed to administer the chalice (that allows me to administer the bread AND the "wine"). Yes, we do accommodate those who cannot / will not accept alcohol!
We know beforehand if someone has an allergy. HOWEVER ... we ask, during the service, if anyone has "special requirements". We have "guaranteed" gluten-free and nut-free wafers (and "wine").
We also use the "purificator" after each person uses the chalice. The purificator is (and we are all very vigilant) turned and moved after every person takes a sip from the chalice. The chance of any very slight nut residue being passed from one to the next is very very very minimal.
Intinction is also common.
What more can I say?! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Sun, 08/20/2006 - 12:13am
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Thank you to everyone for your replies and comments. I need to confirm the host is nut free, and set up a meeting with the priest. Hopefully everything will work out.

Posted on: Mon, 08/21/2006 - 3:19pm
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We went to a community church this weekend to hear my niece and her DH play piano/violin at the service. Communion was very different then in our own Catholic parish. They passed around broken pieces of what looked like matzo crackers and then little tiny goblets of grape juice. Everyone had to take the 'bread' and the 'wine' together.
When they came to my PA/DD, she politely took a piece of the 'bread' and when they walked on to the bench behind us, she whispered to me she felt safer if she didn't eat it. I told her that was OK. When they passed the 'wine' around, she just passed it on to the next person. I was really proud of her. She was unsure and as I've told her in the past, when you are in doubt, its best to not even eat it.

Posted on: Sat, 05/06/2006 - 3:33pm
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I do not allow my PA DD to drink from the chalice. No one in my family does. I don't like that whole idea, just wiping with a cloth and turning the cup for the next person.
Sometimes she's not comfortable receiving communion if we are not in our own parish. I don't usually push the issue if she doesn't feel comfortable.

Posted on: Sat, 05/06/2006 - 10:23pm
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We had our first communion yesterday and No we don't drink from it either. I don't think it is a great idea for anyone not just the PA. However I agree that people may have eaten just before and it would be a problem for PA.
I hope your communion went as well as ours!) take care claire

Posted on: Sat, 05/06/2006 - 11:13pm
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Wow. Never having to have a food is one thing--and never getting to experience some things culturally one thing. But never getting to have the entire sacrament. That's a powerful, powerful thing.
I'm Protestant. And we pass with individual cups or have communion by intinction (dipping the bread into the cup). Or when we've had communion like this, DS has been the first after DH (extremely possible with DH's line of work).
In a smaller parish, there has got to be a work around, like offering your child eucharist by intinction--at least some of the time. Or preparing her own cup. There would have to be a way to accomplish this. This is communion. For the entire community. It's not right to exclude. And it doesn't have to come from one common cup. It's nice, but not absolute. At least not to me.
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Posted on: Sun, 05/07/2006 - 12:28am
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My dd has yet to make her first communion, but we, as a family, do not drink from the communal cup. I just was discussing this with dh, and we find it unclean regardless of allergies. I used to like the dipping way of doing it, and would not have a problem with that technique, provided all were done that way form that particular cup.
So, a double no(germs and allergies) on the cup for dd). becca

Posted on: Sun, 05/07/2006 - 2:28am
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We do not drink from the cup either.
At one of our local churches, the communion bread is made by the parishioners in their homes. What if they knead the bread on a counter on which they have previously made peanut butter sandwiches?! PA DD cannot receive this bread safely, so before attending services there we have to go to our regular church and get a safe wafer for her to bring along.

Posted on: Sun, 05/07/2006 - 6:33am
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I never drink from the cup either - just can't bear the thought. I won't let my kids either, regardless of PA.

Posted on: Sun, 05/07/2006 - 1:28pm
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Thanks for all the advice. I think we'll keep with the host and stop the wine. I appreciate all the feedback!

Posted on: Mon, 05/08/2006 - 1:26am
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Sara had first communion this weekend.
She hated the 'cracker' (toast, to her.. not host)
Got a good pic of her face (I hope)
I'm still ISO the story of the Dracut MA family who wrote the pope IRT THEIR situation: Mom with CD daughter and diabetic as well...
Church was denying 1st communion.
All Saturday, looking at the girls in dresses (and boys in suits) I thought about the family and what THEY were doing (as on TV, I saw the girl in her dress...)
I hope they had a good day, and were allowed to continue, kwim?
I keep looking in the paper..
Comments on Caitlin? I refuse to answer [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
(I dont have an answer... allergic to wheat AND grapes..)
Jason
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Posted on: Mon, 05/08/2006 - 2:41am
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No, we do not allow her to drink from the chalice.. none of us do.. not real sanitary.
We also only let her receive communion from the priest. He is the only one who I know has clean hands! I never let her go to a Eucharistic minister. What if they are sitting with small children and feeding them before they do up to hand out communion?? So, we made a decision to only go to a priest.

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