field trips...a 504 topic

Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2007 - 6:48am
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Okay, working on our accomodations I had in my outline that the *school* should do an allergy assessment of a field trip destinations. They changed it and said the *parent* need to do the assessment and decide if it is safe for the allergy child or not. If it's determined not to be safe, then the allergy child doesn't go on the field trip.

Does that not scream discrimination?? I don't know, if they pick a place(lets say a candy factory tour, where they make candies with peanuts) and I decide that after calling it's not safe for him to go. Should I just keep him home that day, or ask they pick another destination for the field trip...something safe for ALL the kids?? It would be along the same lines as choosing a field trip that a child in a wheel chair couldn't go to, that's discrimination, right??? I don't know my limits here, but when they changed the assessment(in the 504) and put it on my shoulders(taking the responsibility off theirs), that rubbed me the wrong way. What do you think??

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Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 (beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 (peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-3 1/2 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
Savannah-1 (milk and egg)

Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2007 - 10:39am
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Chanda,
You are right, they cannot exclude him from field trips. Our district does a field trip assessment. 4 weeks prior to the field trip, the teacher submits the field trip proposal to the principal. The principal ensures that the trip will be safe for all the students and that everyone's medical needs can be addressed on the trip. Only then is the trip approved and the class notified. If the trip cannot be approved, it is cancelled and an alternate trip is arranged.
If your child is not being accommodated on field trips, then he is not receiving FAPE. You could complain to OCR or just call them for "technical assistance". They can explain this law to your school.
Cathy
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Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 4 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.

Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2007 - 12:02pm
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oh Cathy, that is what I wanted to hear!!! But how do I approach the school with that info, is it printed anywhere?? Soooo glad I can ask a question here and get a wonderful answer!!! Thank you!!
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Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 (beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 (peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-3 1/2 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
Savannah-1 (milk and egg)

Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2007 - 12:33pm
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No, they can not do that.
Did they actually put in writing that if the trip is not safe then the child doesnt go?
If so....wow, they are obviously running on thier own with any legal guidance.
If not, ask them to put that in writing for you.

Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2007 - 12:37pm
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Quote:Originally posted by qdebbie1:
[b]No, they can not do that.
Did they actually put in writing that if the trip is not safe then the child doesnt go?
If so....wow, they are obviously running on thier own with any legal guidance.
If not, ask them to put that in writing for you. [/b]
the *in writing* is just the changed 504 accomodation(I said the *school* should do an allergy assessment) and they changed it to *parents* will do allergy assesment for each field trip..here it is exactly... "It is the parents responsibility to investigate the field trip destination to perform an *allergy risk assessment*"
I planned on asking them if it was discrimination, I am finding a few things int he accomodations I beleve are discrimination....but hopefully I can have *proof* it is, and not just ask them(I'm sure they'd say it isn't).
Also, at the 504 meetings, is the special ed teacher usually there, woudln't they know the *most* about discriminating accomodations?? I just had the Kindergarten teacher, assistant principal, principal, health aid, disctrict nurse....that was it.
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Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 (beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 (peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-3 1/2 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
Savannah-1 (milk and egg)

Posted on: Mon, 03/26/2007 - 12:39am
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They love to put the responsibility on you. The 504 puts it on them so they will try to get out of it any way they can. My school wanted to require my child to be responsible for his own meds, epi and benedryl. I said no and every time we meet they are ask again. Its fun to say no.
Let OCR or a lawyer decide if it is discrimination. I would not ask the school if it was discrimination, let them sink themselves. I would ask the school to add in writing what happens if the field trip if not acceptable. Do not show the school the cards in your hand, you may need them later.
The special ed teacher was not in any of my meetings. Imo that would be necessary if it was an IEP for education, my situation was for the health portion. Looking at in the other way, if the meeting was for a child with a learnig disability, the nurse may not be required.
Try to keep your future correspondence in writing with the school. Let them know you want it in writing so you can really read it and think about what they are suggesting.
I enjoyed playing the dumb card as long as I could. One day they realized I knew what I was doing(probably when the got a complaint from OCR) and then if became, yes Ms. Quillen to everything.

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