field trip no parents invited

Posted on: Tue, 12/04/2007 - 7:10am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

I got a notice the other day about an upcoming field trip to a play at a children's theatre in a BIG city. It said because the theatre only allotted enough seats for the exact number of students and teachers that parents could not go.
When I got the letter I contacted the principal. I told her that I thought that according to previous discussions that I would be able to attend all field trips. She said she would feel better if I went for my son's safety. She said that it was a ticket issue and that no other parents were going. I told her that several scenarios came to mind about why I did not think my son should go without me being there. Dark theatre with no one watching him closely to recognize an anaphylactic reaction, students from other schools who have eaten peanut butter that did not wash hands, another child getting sick and my son being close. Just a few right off the top of my head.
Well now their solution is for the school nurse to go. Not saying that she is not better trained than I am, BUT I am just not comfortable him going without me. Am I wrong? I mean there are going to be around 120 kids with 7 chaperones. That is not a good enough ratio for me. Even if one of the chaperones is a school nurse. (Which by the way has not been very supportive nor has she attended any of his 504 meetings!) They will be in a metropolitan city 60 miles away. What should I do?
They also put in this note that for the safety of all students, everyone will be eating a cafeteria prepared lunch for the trip, except for my child could bring his own. Well some of the other parents are LIVID to say the least. They are threatening to hire a lawyer and call the local news channel. They said they loved their child as much as I loved my and their child was going to have a pbj come hell or high water.
I am not going to let him go. I am very sad at how these other parents feel. They just do not have a clue and my child will be the one to suffer from it. What to do? Please come someone give me some insight.

Posted on: Tue, 12/04/2007 - 8:01am
niche's picture
Joined: 02/05/2007 - 09:00

How old is your son? Given all that you wrote no I wouldn't let mine go either unless I got the situation resolved somehow. how awful the parents are being so terrible. I don't really have much advice, my son is only 5 and I have been allowed on all of his field trips so far. I would fight them and the parents on it. I didn't used to be that kind of person but being a FA parent changes things.

Posted on: Tue, 12/04/2007 - 8:38am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

He is only 6 and in the 1st grade. I have been on all of his field trips. There has never been an issue before. For some reason the play is more important than safety. It should not have been booked without more than just the teachers being able to go. Another parent called me and was concerned and her child does not even have food allergies. You are right being a parent of a FA child does make you have to fight more. It should not have to be this way!

Posted on: Tue, 12/04/2007 - 11:46am
rudysmom's picture
Joined: 07/23/2006 - 09:00

My child would not be allowed to go. It's simply unsafe - especially with the parents who are advocating for their children to have pb&j along. How terribly sad that you don't have a more supportive parent group!

Posted on: Tue, 12/04/2007 - 10:28pm
maphiemom's picture
Joined: 12/01/2005 - 09:00

Field trips are a really hard one for me. There was a farm trip at the beginning of the year , found out they sell lots of nutty item's, so I didn't let her go , I can't last minute get out of work, I would if it was something really good though, there was another field trip to a church to see some children's singers, I was worried about students form other schools as they were supposed to eat lunch there, the teachers decided to avoid that part be having the kids eat at school, what ever they brought , which is always to be peanut and nut free , thankfully. I did have a panic that morning thought , I felt nervous out of control of the situation, but everything was fine, I would speak more to the teacher next time, have my allergic child close by the teacher at all times. When we go to the movies I worry about trace, and the dark , but I check on her a lot and so far things have alawys been fine.
Most pathetic to hear of parents fighting for their child to be able to eat PB over a child's safety. There are some really obnoxious pparents out there. They can eat it any other time , what is the big sacrifice, our concerns are not shallow.

Posted on: Wed, 12/05/2007 - 4:46pm
Lindensmom's picture
Joined: 09/21/2007 - 09:00

Wow - I am so sorry these other parents are so callous towards you. I think you said your child is in first grade? I gotta say, even without the food allergy, a ratio of 7 adults to 120 first graders sounds like a bad idea to me. I would have been very unhappy about that even before we had to worry about peanuts.

Posted on: Thu, 12/06/2007 - 2:32am
niche's picture
Joined: 02/05/2007 - 09:00

I would call FAAN and see if they have any advice. Or I might call a lawyer. So sorry this is happening to you. I just found this too - I don't know if they could help you but thought it was worth posting: [url=""][/url]

Posted on: Thu, 12/06/2007 - 10:12am
Christabelle's picture
Joined: 10/03/2004 - 09:00

Um... let them call a lawyer...and the news media...what idiots. There is no right to PB&J. There is however a FEDERAL RIGHT FOR YOUR CHILD UNDER THE ADA.
What morons.
There is no way my child would go 60 miles to a major city with the ratio you describe and an unfriendly nurse without me. NO WAY. Neither would I keep my child home. I would attend, and that would be that. I would be threatening to call the OCR office, the media, a food allergy attorney and the fed. gov. agency that oversees the ADA.
Don't let them get to you!!

Posted on: Thu, 12/06/2007 - 11:42am
gatorgrrl's picture
Joined: 11/14/2007 - 09:21

Totally agree with the above! And what is up with that ratio of adults to children? I thought it was regulated that there had to be a certain number of adults accompanying children on field trips? (Jeez, 25 years ago in Florida of all places I remember it being like 6 to 1 whenever we went anywhere.)

Posted on: Thu, 12/06/2007 - 11:50am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

You are exactly right! Let them call the media, they will be the ones that look insensitive and stupid. And let them hire a lawyer, I do not believe that one would touch it. My child has the disability and he is the one covered under the ADA like you said.
You are also right I am taking my child. He has the right to attend safely just like everyone else. I asked him too if he wanted to go without me and he said no. I emailed the principal and told her it would be safer for him to go with me. She called and said that was fine.
I do wish that there were more supportive parents. There are a few. Not enough. :(

Posted on: Fri, 12/07/2007 - 5:19am
Angeliquesmom's picture
Joined: 12/07/2007 - 11:58

I'm new here and want to share with you what worked for us.
My 5 year old daughter started kindergarten this year and we had trouble with the school taking her peanut allergy seriously.
Kids were eating pb next to her at lunch, bringing it for snacks at snacktime in the classroom etc..
They tried putting her at a different end of the table as the kids who were eating pb but then I showed up one day to eat with her and a child was eating a pbj sandwich right next to her. I complained and then they decided to put her at a seperate table on the stage just for kids with food allergies.
I was already speaking to The office For Civil Rights in Atlanta because my daughter is a type 1 diabetic and we were having problems with the school with her diabetes care so I told the man at OCR what was going on with the peanut issue and he spoke to the school board for me and let them know that she is protected under the 504 Act because she has a life threatening allergy and has a right under federal law to be in a peanut free environment without being segregated at a seperate table. He thought that the idea of my child eating at a seperated table was segregation and discrimintation and I agree. The school and I met in a 504 meeting and the school agreed to ban peanut from her classroom, ban it from her lunch table so she can sit with her class,put signs up stating its a nut free room, no one in her class can bring any peanut/nut containing snacks to school,and she can carry an emergency bag with her at all times containing her epipen as well as diabetic supplies. Her 504 also states that the teacher will give me notice of parties etc.. in advance so we can bring her snacks/alternatives for her milk and egg allergy (non life threatening) I also am allowed to go on ALL field trips and even ride the bus with my daughter.
So far it has worked out great and they are VERY careful now because they know they can get their federal funding yanked. Unfortunetly things had to get nasty and I had to raise hell to get this for my daughter but the bottom line is it worked and I feel much better about her going to school.
If your child goes to public school I would highly recommend you contacting your regional OCR office and filing a complaint if the school is giving you problems. It's a shame things have to get this way but until the schools "get it" you have to do what you have to do. Maybe if enough of them do get it they will all ban peanut in the future.
Good Luck!

Posted on: Fri, 12/07/2007 - 7:54am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

My son went thru a lot last year in kindergarten. So I started fighting to remove peanuts and nuts from the school and getting him under a 504. Well we have him under a 504. It works for the most part. It is a battle to keep them to follow it. It is in his 504 that I can attend all field trips, but this time they say it is a matter of tickets. Which is bs.
I have considered contacting the OCR. I called the Washington office and they gave me the regional office for my area. I just have not called them yet. But I think I am going to have to.
There is another mother with a child with peanut allergies at the same school. We are joining forces and trying to get something done. It is a constant battle. A new principal came in this year and we had to start all over. I just wished that some of these people could walk a day in ours or our childrens shoes.

Posted on: Fri, 12/07/2007 - 4:33pm
Angeliquesmom's picture
Joined: 12/07/2007 - 11:58

I would definitely file a complaint with OCR. You won't have to deal with redoing it every year at this school even with a new principal there. It will follow your child at least until she goes to another school. Then when she switches schools you contact OCR again and let them know in advance if your school isn't cooperating and they will help again. I feel its so important so ALL schools get on the bandwagon and get some policys in place fo all PA children.

Posted on: Tue, 12/11/2007 - 11:11am
Mrsdocrse's picture
Joined: 01/16/2007 - 09:00

I agree with the other parents.. I am a mother of a 1st grader and NO way would Allow my son to go on a field trip that far away with out me..... that ratio is Ridiculous for kids that age! even if he didn't have a peanut allergy I wouldn't let him go!

Posted on: Sun, 12/16/2007 - 8:50am
KaitlinsMom's picture
Joined: 09/25/2005 - 09:00

I just had a similar experience with my 5yr old. A note was sent home about a play that the children would be attending and no parents would be allowed. I contacted the teacher and principal and was aloud to attend the play along with my daughter. Like you we also have it in writing in the 504 that one of her parents will attend all feild trips. Everyone at the 504 meetings signed off on eveything that was agreed upon. Is that also how your 504 is? If so I would definatley take this farther. They agreed that you would attend and if they could find an extra seat for the nurse then why not for you? Did you try contacting the 504 director for your area?

Posted on: Sun, 12/16/2007 - 9:54am
bhcassidyjj's picture
Joined: 06/01/2007 - 09:00

This makes me so angry. I have to admit that if my child was not PA I would be giving her pb sandwiches all the time. But to contact the talk to a lawyer...over a sandwich? Are you freakin' kidding me? Get over it guys, try lunchmeat. Like you have decided I would take my child on my own, but I would also take steps against the school for breaching your agreement. Boy, I just can't wait for mine to start school...

Posted on: Mon, 12/17/2007 - 8:56am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

It is not in writing about one parent going with my son. IT was understood at the 504 eligibility hearing that I would attend all field trips and everybody agreed, so I thought it was a given. I am going to add to his 504 that I will attend and I have to ride the bus. You would think they would want me to go to reduce risk. Stupid on their part.
We went on our own and guess what there were around 50 empty seats. (So much for them saying that there were not enough seats!) I was very sad for my son that day. I put on a happy face and did my best. He did tear up one time when I told him I was sorry that he could not go with everyone else, but he said he understood.
I did talk to the 504 director in the last 504 meeting we had and told her, the principal, and the teacher that I did not feel that my son would be safe without me and I felt like I must take him on my own. That said that was my choice. There is not one sympathetic person at this school, except for maybe two or three parents that I know. It truly sucks for my son!

Posted on: Mon, 12/17/2007 - 9:36am
bhcassidyjj's picture
Joined: 06/01/2007 - 09:00

I would still contact the OCR. There's no way they would get away with treating a student with a different disability and their parent that way. Thats just ridiculous...

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