Experience at Chick-fil-A

Posted on: Mon, 04/26/2004 - 6:26am
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I just had an experience I never want to repeat. We didnt have much food around here and I wanted to get the kids out before nap and had to go to the bank anyway so I thought I would take them to the new Chick-fil-a down the street with a playland thing. I get there and order my 2 year olds meal (non FA) and as I am looking at the menu see in great big letters that basically all their food is cooked in %100 peanut oil. I just froze and paid anyway! I am not very quick sometimes. Anyway as am walking to find a seat holding my 15 month old who is suspected of PA and MA I start feel kind of greasy and imagine oil everywhere. My two year old sees the playground and runs for it and I throw basically all the food in the trash... He doesnt even notice. Oh course the playground is covered with the stuff also but atleast there is no food allowed in there and my baby doesnt really leave my side so let him play a few minutes. Then some unsupervised kids come in with ICECREAM. My son has never reacted to peanuts on contact that I know of but he has milk products. Needless to say I left carrying a one year old and dragging a screaming 2 year old. I drove home with one eye on my baby and kicking myself because my cell phone doesnt even work. He is fine as of right now..I am keeping a close eye on him. I feel really stupid to have put him in that kind of situation.

Posted on: Mon, 04/26/2004 - 6:42am
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I have always heard that Chick-Fil-A uses peanut oil!
This company needs to get with the program!! Peanut oil residue is sure to be everywhere in their establishments on tables, doorknobs, bathrooms etc...be careful!!
Please always check before you decide to eat somewhere new.

Posted on: Mon, 04/26/2004 - 7:08am
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I know exactly how you felt, lalow. We went to a Fuddruckers with friends when my daughter was about 3. You order at the counter before sitting down, and I checked that the fries weren't fried in peanut oil, and felt OK. Then we were about to sit down and one of the other fathers brought two big buckets of peanuts to the table. I realized that the entire restaurant was covered in peanuts, and I grabbed DD and her baby sister and ran out the door, then cried and shook all the way home.
That's why we basically never eat out. There are so many variables to worry about. If you have time next time before going to a new restaurant, you can search these boards and see if anyone has had experience with them. I know there have been a lot of posts about Chick-Fil-A here.
Hope you're feeling better now!
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Posted on: Mon, 04/26/2004 - 8:11am
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Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 12:39am
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lalow,
Please don't feel stupid about this. It was a mistake that once realized caught you off guard. That's all. There are many of us here who have dealt with PA longer than you have that have been faced with tough situations and maybe made the wrong decision. But, look to it for any positives you can gain. It is an experience you can use for future reference. But, again, please don't feel stupid. This is a tough thing to understand, comprehend and live with. It is a day-by-day experience.
*Hugs*
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Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 12:52am
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Happens to all of us...
And like the PP's said.. Most PA folks avoid the chick-fil-a's (we dont have many in Mass, but DW would avoid it for her anyways, since shes anaph to peanuts).
My parents went there, with free coupons, and said it was ok. (ok = tasted good, not safe.. just good)
I wouldnt go there specifically for it, unless I had free coupons either.. And it'd be at work where I eat it... But theres no chick-fil-a near work... And I am not allowed to go out at lunch.. something about the chains on leg attached to my cubicle.
Jason
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Sara 2-13-98 NKA (avoiding nuts)
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Posted on: Tue, 04/27/2004 - 3:52am
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I contacted Chick-Fil-A last year about their oil.They were adamant that they would not change their oil as it was "safe" oil. Not apologetic in the least. What a bummer!!

Posted on: Mon, 06/07/2004 - 10:55pm
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My son has a PA and my allergist said that peanut oil in the US is fine. I took him to eat at Chik-Fil-A last night and he was just fine. I am confused a bit by the reaction to the peanut oil, is it just my son is not allergic to the proteins in the oil or all PA?
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Posted on: Tue, 06/08/2004 - 5:58am
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Quote:Originally posted by gumbodog:
[b]My son has a PA and my allergist said that peanut oil in the US is fine. I took him to eat at Chik-Fil-A last night and he was just fine. I am confused a bit by the reaction to the peanut oil, is it just my son is not allergic to the proteins in the oil or all PA?
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Could be any of the above...
Maybe hes not PA... Maybe hes not THAT sensitive to peanuts... Maybe you got lucky THIS time... Most of the time, avoid peanut oil. Avoid chick-fil-a, kwim? Like russian roullette...
Jason

Posted on: Tue, 06/08/2004 - 1:17pm
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Quote:Originally posted by jtolpin:
[b] Could be any of the above...
Maybe hes not PA... Maybe hes not THAT sensitive to peanuts... Maybe you got lucky THIS time... Most of the time, avoid peanut oil. Avoid chick-fil-a, kwim? Like russian roullette...
Jason[/b]
That is the same reacction that I am going through w/my child who has tested positve for PA. I just found out that my care taker has been frying all of his foods in peanut oil, because she did nto believe anything would really happen to him. (and nothing every did), but the other day we went to the movies and he ate a bucket of popcorn and by the time we left the theater his eyes had bean to swell and within 2 hours his whole face was swollen. So, i gave him some Benidryl and it began to go away. By morning time his eyes were still swollen so i took him in to the dr. and he began to get a rash all over his body, but not hives. So, the ped. gave him a shot of cortizone and told me to keep him on benidryl for the next couple of days. By the time we got home his whole body was covered in welps that were warm to the touch and his feet had even began to swell. I called the ped. and he said to cont benidryl and bring him in in 2 days. So, now it has been 2 days and as soon as the benidryl wears off he begins to be covered in welps. So, i am totally confused so i will be bringing him to the ped in the a.m. Please let me know if anyone has ever seen anything like this before. I have also been told that u can eat PB 99 times and not have a reacction, and can eat it the 100th time and die from it??????

Posted on: Fri, 06/11/2004 - 11:59am
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I was told by an allergist that altho it was previously considered safe for PA folks to eat some kinds of peanut oil, there have been a number of folks reacting to it over recent years. So - was advised to avoid all peanut oil.

Posted on: Tue, 06/15/2004 - 2:41am
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My PA has been severe all of my life. I am one who cannot be around the smell of peanut butter and that is how I had to raise three children, not allowing peanut butter into my house. I have always been able to eat at chick-fil-a. Just FYI, I noticed a slight reaction to sunflower seeds, then while reading the ingredients, I noticed that they were baked in peanut oil. One of the other things I have noticed with my allergies is that as a child, I never liked the little debbie cake products or things like ice cream sandwiches. My parents did not understand to look out for the fact that those things my be causing an allergic reaction but as an adult I have notice those snack foods contain a soy product that I have a reaction to.

Posted on: Sun, 06/20/2004 - 4:17am
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My son is PA, also nuts, eggs, crab. Allergist says that Chick fil-a peanut oil will not cause a reaction because it is a highly refined oil. Chick fil-a is actually a pretty high quality fast food resturant (is that an oxymoron ?). Anyway, in spite of her assurance I have never had the courage to chance it. They do have a pretty decent website listing food ingredients and allergans in their foods. My son attended a birthday party there and we just brought his food along with us.

Posted on: Sun, 06/20/2004 - 9:51am
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We eat in Chick-fil-a all the time. We don't have problems with the peanut oil, but others do. For those of us who don't I have heard it explained that there is no peanut protein in peanut oil, unless it is that funky stuff from the health food store. (Talk about your oxymorons!)
My dd is air reactive and must sit at a peanut free table in school, but has no prob at Chick-fil-a. PA can be so individual, how exasperating!

Posted on: Sun, 06/20/2004 - 11:25pm
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Lalow,
Sorry you had such a bad experience! I think we live and learn with this allergy thing every day.
BTW, I've been trying to email you back, it won't go through.
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Matt 2 yrs. PA,MA,EA
Sean 2 yrs. NKA

Posted on: Wed, 07/07/2004 - 8:00am
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I hate to rain on the chick-fil-a haters parade, but I just looked at their website:
[url="http://www.chick-fil-a.com"]http://www.chick-fil-a.com[/url]
Clearly visible on their main page is a reference to a 'Concerned about food allergies' page. That page is located at:
[url="http://www.chick-fil-a.com/allergen.asp"]http://www.chick-fil-a.com/allergen.asp[/url]
Looks to me like the have a 'reasonable' response to PA people complaints. I applaud them for their awareness efforts.
I still won't take my PA DS to chick-fil-a, but they should get an "A" for effort.
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Posted on: Thu, 07/08/2004 - 12:30pm
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I havnt looked at the web site but when we went in there I was really impressed by the visibility of the signs they have about the peanut oil.

Posted on: Thu, 07/08/2004 - 1:40pm
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I did not know about the peanut oil at chick--fil-a. My DD & DS are both allergic to PA. DS is severely allergic--just to touch. He is also allergic to Soy and has asthma. My allergist told me that the protein in Peanut Oil is usually so broken down that most PA's never have a reaction to it. That was a risk that I did not want to take. However, we did decide to do a controlled test with the PA oil this past May. My son ate fish that was cooked in PA oil. He NEVER had a reaction to it. I was amazed because his reaction is so bad to peanuts. He has always eaten the kid's chicken nuggets at Chick-fil-a and has never had a reaction. Also, My daughter had some peanut-butter that was on her arm (from a cousin) and she did not have a reaction. I have always been told that the PA will not go away. But, it seems like my DD's has gotten much better. (DD keeps telling me that she wants to try peanut butter and chocolate.) But, I will never let her eat it just to find out.
I found this on the CFA website about the oil. Q. Are oils derived from foods that can cause allergy, such as peanut oil, also allergenic?
A. Not usually. Most commercial oils such as peanut oil are highly refined (hot solvent extracted), which removes protein from the product. These types of oil are most commonly used in commercial food preparation. Since it is protein in allergenic foods that causes food allergy, highly refined oils are non-allergenic. Research has shown that individuals with a severe peanut allergy have not had reactions to heat processed oils. However, people with a food allergy should avoid

Posted on: Tue, 07/13/2004 - 3:37am
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Quote:Originally posted by deegann:
[b]I remember reading on this site that there's a mom with a PA child, and she has no problem eating at chik-fil-a and has never had a reaction to it[/b]
That was me. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] We'd gone to Chik-fil-a prior to learning about PA and continued going afterwards. I figured they were fine since we'd never had a problem. Yeah, yeah - this was in my early days of denial. ANYWAY...we were walking up to the place (it is in a mall food court) and this woman is handing out free samples and as I passed by she said how great they are since they are fried in peanut oil. I turned around and slowly, clearly, and certainly threateningly (to her) bellowed "What did you just say?" Of course she repeats it and I started crying on the spot. I was crushed. Not that we couldn't eat there again (who cares!) but that I'd never checked before. I live and die by keeping DD reaction free at LEAST until she is 5 so that I know in my heart I've given her every possible chance of outgrowing PA.
So, knowing that, and knowing that I would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS take my DD there again - please know that she had no reactions. The peanut oil they use is apparently of the heat-extruded variety (as is most peanut oil in the US) and therefore has no proteins.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/13/2004 - 4:34am
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Carolyn,
So would you go there again with your child or not?
This is an interesting dilemna...
A food your child can tolerate... Do you stop serving it or not?
Tough choice --
Caitlins rast + to wheat, and reacts to wheat things, wheat crackers, cream of wheat, etc... Yet, tolerates 2 slices/day of an organic wheat bread (by Whole Foods)
Why? Cant tell you.. I can tell you she reacts to wheat pasta, to <2> wheat thins, etc...
So, like you, do you stop a food that seems to be tolerated by child?
We continue to give her bread (wheat), and may be kicking ourselves later, if you supposed to avoid 100% -- I know I know... But prove it to me, that avoiding a food 100% GUARANTEES (or at least betters your chance) outgrowing a food...
Would I take of my family to CFA? Nah... not close to one, and given our history and DW's (anaph. to peanuts), we'd pass. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Sara 2-13-98 NKA (avoiding nuts)
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Posted on: Tue, 07/13/2004 - 11:52am
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I am not anti chick-fil-a. I always loved it. I cant got there anymore knowing what I know now but I appreciate the signs etc. I was upset the day I went because of my stupidity not them. The whole situation was just overwhelming for me.

Posted on: Wed, 07/14/2004 - 1:25am
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I LOVED chik-fil-a and my husband and I ate it all the time before we knew about A.J.'s allergy. I have to agree with Jason though that it is like playing russian roulette. I don't allow peanut products of any kind in our home and I don't allow anyone in the family to eat them while we are out. Peanut oil IS a peanut product. Our allergist gave us the same speech about how most of the time it is safe. BUT what if just once it wasn't??? I don't want to think about that. Chicken just isn't as important as my child.

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Quote:Originally posted by jtolpin:
[b]Carolyn,
So would you go there again with your child or not?
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No - we will never go there again. We won't miss it. I mean...fried chicken...really - do I need to take the chance for THAT!?
Quote:Originally posted by jtolpin:
[b]A food your child can tolerate... Do you stop serving it or not?[/URL][/b]
I understand that heat-processed peanut oil kills the protein. Most of the time. I don't want to be the one who finds out that it is not all of the time. Just not worth it to me. Just because we've had it in the past, doesn't mean the next batch of peanut oil wasn't, I don't know, processed enough or something. Same (for us) with may contains. I bet we'd be fine eating may contains 90% of the time or more. Or even "made in the same facility." But if I have the knowledge that contamination is even POSSIBLE - we avoid it. There are too many safe alternatives for us.
Quote:Originally posted by jtolpin:
[b] Caitlins rast + to wheat, and reacts to wheat things, wheat crackers, cream of wheat, etc... Yet, tolerates 2 slices/day of an organic wheat bread (by Whole Foods) [/URL][/b]
This is my thinking...something about that bread is allowing her system to accept the bread. The wheat is there and her body knows it. The peanut oil is different. My DD's body has NEVER accepted peanut protein in any form. IF peanut protein were to be in the oil and my DD ate it - she WOULD react. The peanut oil is not made in such a way that DD's body accepts it - it is just made so that the allergen is missing. If the allergen were introduced into the oil, then DD would react.
Quote:Originally posted by jtolpin:
[b]prove it to me, that avoiding a food 100% GUARANTEES (or at least betters your chance) outgrowing a food [/URL][/b]
That, I cannot do. How I wish I could. But this is a personal issue for me. Parents are told to avoid peanuts with kids under 3. I ALWAYS thought it was due to choking. I gave DD pb at 22 months and she nearly died. Had I waited, she MAY have not had this allergy. Slim chance, I know. But mother's guilt has settled in my heart and I am determined to do ANYTHING that might help her outgrow this damn thing. So, she is now 4 and never had another reaction. If I can make it to 5 without a reaction, I will at least feel like I gave her a fighting chance to outgrow it. Kind of like winning the lottery - possible, but VERY unlikely.
Carolyn
P.S. I have NOTHING against CFA either and I agree that the peanut oil ought to stay - that is what makes it unique I guess. Just wish I would have known sooner. There were no warning labels on the products when we used to go there. But now it seems like they are very aware. Wish they all would be!

Posted on: Sat, 07/17/2004 - 7:49pm
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My son is also allergic to soy and I allow him to have foods with soybean oil. However, his allergy to soy really only increases his eczema but doesnt seem to affect him otherwise. So I try to keep him away from soy products as much as possible but take our chances that a few proteins are left in the oil. However, he gets more than eczema from peanuts. I am not taking any chances with it.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/20/2004 - 10:52am
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My son is allergic to peanuts and chicken...so the sound of Chick-fil-a just makes me nauscious!!! You reacted how I think I would off, I still find myself shocked when I find a place that still uses peanut oil.

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