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Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 10:36am
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I have raised the other thread entitled "Epipen expiry dates" on the board "Living with peanut allergy". Dey Laboratories toll free number is there, and also my not so good experience with Allerex.
Alternative to Mainstream, in answer to your question, I was told by my local 'Save-On-Foods that they had a shipment scheduled to come in on the 22nd or 23rd - I forget which. I don't know if you have Save-On-Foods in eastern Canada.
However, it sounds as though there is a shortage all over, or is it just in Canada? I don't have another day off this week or I'd phone Dey Labs again and see what's going on. We do have two non-expired epipens, and I wouldn't hesitate to use the third that has just expired if need be.

Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 10:40am
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Mae posted while I was posting, so I didn't see her article. So it IS just Canada - why can they ship it all over the USA and not to Canada? If there is a shortage, it should be all over. I will hold off for the new shipment, and just keep my fingers crossed that it comes in, as I think the dates ought to be better if they are newly shipped.

Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 10:42am
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Mae posted while I was posting, so I didn't see her article. So it IS just Canada - I wonder why can they ship it all over the USA (no apparent shortage there) and not to Canada? I will hold off for the new shipment, and just keep my fingers crossed that it comes in, as I think the dates ought to be better if they are newly shipped.

Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 1:01pm
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Thanks Mae!!!
Another sleepless night......

Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 1:51pm
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Wow, not great news. Why only Canada? Well, I have two expiring in May month, so what, five months away (or four) and one that expires in 2005 so we're okay for now. But, as I posted above, I need to get one a month so March and April months to replace the two expiring in May month. I would never want the school to have an expired one.
Hopefully it will be resolved by then, and a heckuva lot sooner because I'm just going on the expiry dates of my three pens, not if Jesse should require one.
I may try to call the pharmacist tomorrow to see how many Epi-pen Jr.'s = an Epi-pen.
This has the potential to be quite scary, but again, for me, only if Jess needs an Epi before the ones expiring need replaced.
In the article that you posted mae, which was great, thank-you [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] , it didn't mention what alternatives other than the Epi-pen Jr. there were. I know when I spoke with the pharmacy assistant to-day she did say there was liquid adrenaline available and I don't even know what that would normally be prescribed for.
The other thing that concerns me. Is this shortage only Epi-pen related or ephinephrine related? Meaning, does that mean that perhaps ambulances wouldn't have it either?
leers, you got your second one, right? I wouldn't lose sleep over it until you have to. Seriously. It is quite frightening but obviously it has happened before and I wasn't even aware of it.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 2:45pm
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Here's the dosing information from the Dey website.
Epi-Pen Jr. has 0.15 mg of medication, and is for people 33 to 66 lbs
Epi-Pen has 0.3 mg of medication, and is from people who weigh more than 66 lbs.
Here's where I got the info [url="http://www.epipen.com/epipen_dosing.html"]http://www.epipen.com/epipen_dosing.html[/url]
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Cheryl, mom to Jason (6 PA/TnA/other FAs and EAs),Joey (4 NKA) and Allison (1 suspected milk allergy)

Posted on: Tue, 01/13/2004 - 9:37pm
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Yes, got my second epi-pen.... Good for now as long as I don't have to use any.....keep my fingers crossed that this works out for everyone. I am going to keep my expired one until this gets resolved though.....

Posted on: Wed, 01/14/2004 - 6:14am
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Alt to M., I also would like to know about this liquid adrenaline, and how it is taken (orally, or injection).
I used to carry around an anakit - I'm glad it got taken off the market. But if this liquid adrenaline has to be put in to a needle and then injected, I don't think it is a viable alternative.

Posted on: Wed, 01/14/2004 - 8:56am
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solarflare, are you American? I know there has been discussion here before because I think most Canadians are carrying regular size Epi-pens for their children. Jesse only clocks in at 52 pounds (maybe 54) and he has had a adult dose Epi-pen since he was 2-1/2 years of age. I know there was some debate about it here.
I also know that within the last few months a doctor we had at the walk-in prescribed an Epi-pen Jr. and he wouldn't budge on it and I reluctantly filled the 'script. I asked the pharmacist if he was schooled in Canada, and no, he was educated in Europe.
I'll have to check the packet insert in the one in my purse.
I do know we've talked about it before and it actually might be interesting to see if it is true that *most* Canadians are carrying regular dose Epi-pens for their children. I think our weight requirement was different.
I am. I have been for six years. It was an regular sized Epi-pen that we used the night that Jesse almost died and he did have to have another one.
Also, I was fortunate with the Epi-pen Jr., if you can call it that, my DH injected himself with it by mistake [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img] and I didn't have to question about when I was going to use it.
Interesting question. Hmm.....
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Wed, 01/14/2004 - 9:36am
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I am very surprised that there are not more hits on this forum. Maybe because I don't carry tons of epi-pens I am the only one worried about it. I am fine with the number of epi-pens I have but my concern is that if I need to use one then I am in big trouble with this backorder crisis.

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