Don\'t respond!!!!

Posted on: Thu, 06/27/2002 - 3:32am
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pCould everyone try and ignore the ignorant posts that have recently been occurring. It's likely a couple of high school kids already bored with summer./p

Posted on: Thu, 06/27/2002 - 6:48am
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River,
From the juvenile tone of their posts, they seem more like grade school kiddies to me. I agree with you. I won

Posted on: Thu, 06/27/2002 - 8:48pm
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Yes, they are obviously very immature and completely ignorant on the subject. I initially felt I had to counteract with something but you're right---you get no where. They are just baiting us. We should ignore their juvenile behaviour.

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 3:47am
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I don't post often anymore - just kind of visit every once in awhile.
If I may, I don't believe kids are behind the recent maliciousness stenching up the boards.
PA.com NEEDS A MODERATOR and a better registration system (recognizing ip addresses, etc).
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Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 7:34am
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While I agree that the picture of the peanuts on the manufacter's board was cruel and ridiculous, this is a place to express opinions. Even if they are not the majority opinion I think they have every right to express the opinion. Do I think that they should at least express it in a constructive way, yes absolutely, there's no need for cruelty from anyone. The just plain juevenile posts that are here that are meant to hurt and annoy can be done without but none the less they are here and we should just deal. After all, they are getting exactly what they want out of posting that stuff and that is getting people mad and upset. Don't let them. Don't give them the satisfaction of a response. They are only doing it to get a rise out of people.
But the posts I have seen from Mr Peanut or Token for example, I see nothing wrong with, they have a right to come here and say what they think too. If you don't like what they have to say, everytime you see their names on a post, skip it! I for one have no problem seeing other's opinions whether they agree with mine or not, so I say whatever your opinion go ahead and write it, but please do so constructivly and without malice. Thanks for hearing my opinion!
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Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 8:37am
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Once again, I agree with kcmom. These points-of-view are probably shared by people we know-- people who currently exist in our lives but haven't expressed their opinions to us (at least not directly to us, tho likely to others behind our backs). I see it as valuable insight because I need to know what I'm dealing with and prepare to counter.

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 9:51am
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Gail, so far the attitude on this board has been to "counter" with removing the people who disagree with your opinions. Not surprising from people who want to (and have) run a valuable food resource out of restaurants and schools.
I can't speak for the other newcomers but if I interacted with someone suffering with a peanut allergy in person I would be extremely accommodating. If I sent my son to a school where there was a kid with a peanut allergy in his class I would no longer give him peanut butter. But if I am told that I CANNOT give him peanut butter I will FIGHT so that he can have it.
And remember that your child's safety is important to anyone with a sense of humanity and community, but your child's comfort is completely unimportant when it comes to robbing others of comfort. Thus my disdain for your restaurant bannings.
Just.Don't.Go.
I disagree with most people's perspective here on peanut butter in the schools. You want everything to be handed to you, I think the schools should adapt to you but not at the exepnse of anyone else.

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 10:10am
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I guess this is where you confuse me. School is really the only place that my daughter MUST go. We can choose not restaurants and other places that are optional. But she is required to attend school.

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 10:21am
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Peanuts rule- that is all I ask. For you to just kind of help me out. I don't plan on demanding you not feed your child PB but I may explain my circumstance and ask if you can help me out on it. And if you say that you are the kind of person who will do so that is all I ask and I think it is great! I would also give the same consideration to you. But please understand also that not all people have that opinion, some people will say, even if it is explained to them calmly and rationally, 'I really don't care if my son's PB sandwhich kills your child, it's cheap and easy for me to make so tough on you' That is where it puts us in a difficult position. Believe me if I had the means to school my child at home so no one else would be inconvenienced I would do so but unfortunetly that is not an option. When my dd goes to school I do not plan on demanding a peanut-free school or anything like that but I may ask the parents if they would mind helping to keep my child alive and I am a little scared of the ones that may say "nope, don't care if it kills your child, my johnny is gonna eat peanutbutter!"
Certainly you can understand that right? As always thanks for your point of view though, I do enjoy hearing it. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 10:38am
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Gail: What I'm saying in regard to schools and peanuts is that I would find it perfectly acceptable for a school to accomodate your daughter to the best of their abilities. I would endorse them designating a special area for her and her friends to eat. I would endorse them implimenting handwashing after lunches so that kids that did have peanuts don't spread their lunch on objects your child.
What I disagree with is forcing all of the other kids to miss out on something - like peanut butter and jelly or peanut butter cookies or the endless list of peanut products you're all so aware of - so that your child does not have to feel ostracized. Do I feel bad that your child's disease places them on the fringe sometimes in activities? Slightly, but I would rather the one kid miss out then all of the kids but one miss out.
kcmom: I don't mean to sound condescending but if you're having problems with parents refusing to accomodate your child you're the one that needs to bend over backwards to make things different, not them. You could offer to make food for their kids, or buy them food that isn't peanut butter. Expensive? It could get that way if someone decides to take advantage of you, but I think even people resistant to the idea of stopping the peanut butter and jelly will rethink their hardline stance when they see how far you are willing to go to ensure your daughters safety, yet at the same time being considerate of their needs.
It is easy to be very myopic when it comes to your child's safety. I'm not a psychologist but even I know enough about human nature to say that if you go into a situation and demand or even urge change for the sake of your kid you are going to meet with resistance. How you break down that resistance is up to you, but you'll lose a lot of friends if you enact change by forcing a peanut ban or something similar. It may require less effort and putting yourself on the line less then my suggestion or dozens of other options, but many won't like you for what you've done and how you have inconvenienced them.
No matter how hard you try you will never get assurances from this world when you send your child to school. There will always be a risk.
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Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 10:38am
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Does anyone else find it strange that all of these posts from "different" people are all occurring around the same time? Don't respond, they don't want our point of view.
Karen

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 10:43am
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I write for Something Awful, I wrote the article about this site. My girlfriend who also has an account here posted a link to this forum on our forums and we all discussed your forum, including one of our memebers who has a peanut allergy and another who has a severe gluten allergy.
I opted not to post a link to this forum in my article because we receive tens of thousands of viewers a day and they have a habit of coming to sites we link to and attacking them.
I have learned a lot from reading this forum, I would think many would appreciate that, but obviously you do not.

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 10:57am
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I do appreciate that you've learned a lot from this site. Thanks for acknowledging it.
And just for the record, I haven't asked for and don't want a peanut ban at our school. What they do is exactly what you suggested: my daughter sits at her "peanut free" table with friends who elect not to bring pb. And the kids that do have it wash their hands. The school decided that her classroom would not have any food. I actually wasn't in favor of that, but their decision was based on reducing their liability (and I can respect that). So if anyone brings in food to share (birthday celebration, for example), they just go to the cafeteria and implement the procedure I already described. My daughter has a box full of alternative safe treats that she can share with other kids who sit with her.
Thanks for hanging in there with me and for "revealing" yourself. I've enjoyed your comments.

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 11:17am
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kcmom: I don't mean to sound condescending but if you're having problems with parents refusing to accomodate your child you're the one that needs to bend over backwards to make things different, not them. You could offer to make food for their kids, or buy them food that isn't peanut butter. Expensive? It could get that way if someone decides to take advantage of you, but I think even people resistant to the idea of stopping the peanut butter and jelly will rethink their hardline stance when they see how far you are willing to go to ensure your daughters safety, yet at the same time being considerate of their needs.
In response to the above:
I never, in any way said this was not something I was fully ready and willing to do. You are the one who said you would try to accomdate if asked and I was simply trying to tell you that is appreciated. And I have never had trouble as of yet with people helping me out. I am surrounded by wonderful loving people who will do anything to keep my dd safe but they know that what they do is their decision and I would never think of them badly for choosing not to help me out. I know the day will come when somone doesn't want to help and that is something I am aware of. You seem to think that all of us here expect the world to bend to our needs and that is simply not true. There are some who do think this way but certainly not all of us. But what is wrong with asking people for a hand sometimes. If they don't want to help, fine, we'll adjust, but what is so wrong for asking. You yourself said you would be happy to help if asked but then it feels like you turn around and criticize me for asking. I don't understand. I do not now and never will try to force someone to bend to my dd's needs but I may ask and all I will ever ask is that you consider helping me out. I will ALWAYS do what it takes to protect my child even if it means doing what you said above, it was never not a consideration of mine, you were not suggesting anything above that I already haven't thought of and am not prepared to do. I am not sure where I gave you the impression it wasn't. All I was really trying to say was thank you for being one of those people who cares and would help me. I don't really understand why you offer to help in one breath but then try to make me feel bad for asking in another.
Again, thanks for your opinion and thanks for caring! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
kcmom

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 11:19am
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I also appreciate that you learned something here as I in turn have learned from you and I thank you! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
kcmom

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 12:06pm
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kcmom: I'm sorry, I am sometimes referring to the board as a whole, but if you're not imposing restrictions like "no peanut butter at school" on people, then I have nothing against you. I didn't mean to be confusing.

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No problem at all, I just wanted you to understand we aren't all for banning the peanut. Most of us are just here to share experiences, read about manufacturers info and just talk. I try to stay out of the banning peanuts issue, I can't say I agree with it. But again, good to hear from you and thanks for talking with us!! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
kcmom

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 12:18pm
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Thank you both for seeing where I'm coming from and having a civil discussion with me. I appreciate your situations and the situations of people who have been less civil than the two of you. I know this has to be really difficult at times to manage and I know it's something you didn't ask for. But thanks for considering how other people enjoy their lives.

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 12:19pm
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Peanuts rule, you are so funny!!! We have concluded that is what you are trying to be! You might try using a dictionary though, instead of making up words and making a fool out of yourself!

Posted on: Fri, 06/28/2002 - 12:57pm
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As a humorist I'm glad you find me funny, although I'm not too sure what you mean about making up words.

Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2002 - 10:17am
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PeanutRule...as a former copy editor (award winning, as I toot my own horn), I respect your vocabulary and usage. Rock on!

Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2002 - 10:38am
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Here's a question: if the new members are legitimately looking for a dialog, why are none of their email addresses available? With the exception of MansonsMommie (not sure of the spelling), whose address is [email]manson@hitler.com[/email], which is 'nuff said. What's the deal guys?

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Quote:Originally posted by Kim M:
[b]Here's a question: if the new members are legitimately looking for a dialog, why are none of their email addresses available? With the exception of MansonsMommie (not sure of the spelling), whose address is [email]manson@hitler.com[/email], which is 'nuff said. What's the deal guys?[/b]I didn't make mine available because I don't want additional spam from bots that search out e-mail addresses like flies searching for warm, gooey poo. If you want to engage me personally, feel free to e-mail me at peanutmail (at) rightwaynews.com.

Posted on: Sun, 06/30/2002 - 12:46am
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Peanuts Rule,
If you are such a nice person, then why would you choose to copy my user name? (Oops you use a O instead of 0 . I am not a parent either that makes our school peanut free nor his classroom peanut free.
Our principal sends out a letter at the beginning of the year telling the parents of his classroom only that there is a child that has a severe peanut allergy that they ask for consideration when sending in snacks. The only thing that I have asked for at the our school is that my child have a safe place for him to sit in his classroom and in the cafeteria.
Last year we had another child who actually brought in "PEANUTS" to his classroom. Did I freak out, no! I am not a hysterical mother to her child. If you ever bothered to get to know more of us you would find out that I do not even have a DARLING DAUGHTER, (because she didn't make it into this world!) I only have DARLING SONS!
I don't believe that you have compassion for others or you wouldn't have invaded me the way that you did. (copying my user name and posting your other crap). I decided that I would not take your invasion of me personally, you are doing a job for some nasty website that you charge money for to get into the forum, so that you don't have to deal with so many other "humans" that go through the crap your site puts up. You can pick at me all you want.. go ahead!!!
I will pray for you becuase you need help!
I understand your views also, I take my pa child to places that sell peanuts (baseball, hockey, and the circus), but that is my choice. My darling son is not airborne allergic. I treat him the same as I do my other children except for the multiple food allergies that he has. When I make dinner for my family I have to make two meals at times because of his food allergies. He is not allergic egg, soy or milk that so many others are,but many other different kinds of foods. My DS doesn't sit and wallow in pity nor I do for him.
I did inform him that he "CAN" die. I know others choose not to tell their children this, but he does know the seriousness of his allergy. I don't hide the truth from my children. THey need to be realistic in life with the "cruelity" of other human beings and sometimes what life has instored for us.
Respond if you must or don't respond like you choose to ignore my other post.
I will pray for you, because you are disturbed and need all of your prayers. God Bless YOU!!!
me [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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<<>>
I find it hard to believe you would be upset by this. I found some things funny, some not at your site. I don't think it is simple satire though. Seems to be at the expense of others. Ha, ha. Also-Manson, Hitler, some of the comments made by those that followed you here? Really very funny stuff (sarcasm noted?).

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