Does Your Child Exhibit Behaviour Problems As A Result of PA?

Posted on: Sat, 09/29/2001 - 8:27am
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This is the question of the month from the [url=""][/url] website which Nicole has given me permission to post here. I highly recommend visiting the site and adding your answer to her survey as she does tally the results and you can e-mail results to a friend.

Without going into details now (surprisingly [img][/img] ), I have to say, yes, my child does. I will go into detail later [img][/img]

Many thanks and best wishes! [img][/img]


Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 12:15am
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Yes, my son has! From the time Tom was walking at 13-14 months, he started hitting. I mean ALL the time!!! He was constantly hitting me, his papa and anyone else who was nearby. It was awful and very depressing. It was virtually impossible for me to have any playdates etc. I felt so isolated. I know that a certain amount of hitting is normal for a 14-15 month old BUT,,,,,.
Tom suffered so much when he was a baby with his atopic dermatitis and undiagnosed food allergies, that maybe this was his way of expressing his frustration. I mean after all Mommmy supposed to make it all better, RIGHT!
I was his personal punching bag for some time,until it finally subsided between 2 1/2-3 yrs old.
I also have thought that the normal Mother-Baby bonding was distrupted because I was eatting the very foods he was allergic too while I breast fed him for the first 6 months.
Tom had No problem when I weaned him at 6 months. Now I know why.
After many Doctor visits for his eczema, he was finally diagnosed with multiple food allergies when he was 15 months.
Sorry about the rambling.
But I just wanted to add that he hardly hits at all anymore.
But I truly believe allergies, in all their forms affect the entire person. How could it not?
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Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 12:55am
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Joined: 07/15/1999 - 09:00

Never. He's not a high strung person so the PA doesn't seem a problem in this regard. He's a little more socially immature, because he's spent so much of his younger years with Mommy, but that's it.
Perhaps the protectiveness and fear of the parents can magnify certain aspects of their personalities.
By the way,his capable-of-eating-PB-by-the-bucket sister is another story. That girl is a real handful--- but adorable also.

Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 2:27am
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Joined: 05/25/2001 - 09:00

I respectfully disagree with your opinion that PA does'nt influence personality. I am very HAPPY that you have'nt had that experience.
But PLEASE, enough of the parental GUILT trip stuff!!
With my son, I had no idea that his eczema was being exacerbated by food allergies when he was an infant. I did'nt find out about his Milk and Soy allergies until he was 6months. I found out about PA at 11months. I found out about all the other's at 15months.
I did not mean my response to Cindy's post to make my kid sound like a MONSTER! He is NOT. He's a wonderful child that has many allergy problems. And yes it has had an effect on him, on his whole Life.
I have always made a concerted effort to always be positive. I am raising a child, NOT AN ALLERGY!
If there is no relationship between allergies and behavior, how do you explain studies relateing food allergies with ADHD, ADD or AUTISM etc?
Thank Goodness this doe'snt happen to all food allergic children. I would'nt wish this on ANYONE!
That being said, as a PA parent I wish I could just simply relate certain behavior problems to being TOO overprotective or TOO fearful!
I've never been able to understand why some Moms who don't have certain problems with their children, feel they have an entire understanding of other peoples children. There seems to be an additude of superiority.
Kind of like, others must just be defienct parents, because I handle it so well!
Sorry about being so blunt! I guess maybe I took your response too personally.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 3:09am
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Joined: 12/26/2000 - 09:00

Mine is a tempremental mess. He has been high strung from the time he was born. Colic didn't describe my child and high need doesn't describe him now. He is a sweet natured little boy most of the time, but when his allergies are acting up or he's tired (lack of sleep from being up itching) - he's cranky and very tempremental. It doesn't take anything to set off a screaming match. He's also a hitter. Whenever he gets frustrated he starts hitting or scratching.
The reason I say it's allergy related is because the once in a blue moon that his skin is clear and he's sleeping well - he is a perfect angel. Okay, well not really, but there are no behavior problems and the only thing he does is get into everything but that I can live with within reason of course.
I forgot to add -
The other part of his personality I think that is affected is that he is very clingy. Don't get me wrong on that statement - he's never experienced a minute of stranger anxiety. He will go to just about anyone which is not neccesarily a good thing. I don't quite know how to describe it except clingy. It's something that started showing up after being in the hospital at three weeks and has been magnified by other doctor instances. He doesn't like to isolated like the crib at the hospital did to him. I don't know how to explain it more than that.
Some of it is our fault because we cater to his every whim mainly because if he gets upset he scratches his skin off. Do I feel guilty about that decision not in the least because I much prefer him having skin on his body and he's pretty easy to please.
He is also afraid of many things. Things not people - he does get a little cautious sometimes with nurses but never doctors and he will not get on a doctor's table that is lined with that white paper (we always put a blanket over it) - with a few doctors appts a week most of the time who can blame him. He's terrified of high chairs, but can't blame him there either as the few times he actually sat in it while we tried a food he became very sick.
Several of his other problems, all relate to his hearing loss so I won't get into them.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 3:28am
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First of all, I have to say that I have far more problems with my non-PA daughter and her behaviour than I have ever had with my PA son. The behavioural problems that I have had with Jesse re PA are difficult for me to explain and I'm not sure if they even fall under the category of the word *problem*.
Last Fall, when his teacher showed the video Alexander the Elephant Who Couldn't Eat Peanuts, she unexpectedly asked Jesse to show his MedicAlert bracelet and his Epi-pen. Jesse had not been prepared, through discussion previous, to do this. So, he had attention drawn to him that he didn't personally want at that time and which hadn't been discussed with him.
After that day, I went through about two weeks of problems with Jesse at school acting out what I guess would have been anger (or perhaps frustration). The teacher had another situation that was easy to see and easy to pinpoint his behaviour on. But, I knew this wasn't the case as that particular situation wasn't causing Jesse any distress.
Somehow (please remember my failing memory [img][/img] ), I finally got to the bottom of it and recognized that it was that Jesse had had attention drawn to him that he didn't want. He loves being the class clown and loves getting attention, but only if he wants it.
Later in the year, when we decided to do the newspaper article in the local newspaper, I approached Jesse and spoke with him about how he would feel if his picture was in the paper and the possible repercussions of such (although there ended up being nothing but positive). Because I was able to draw on the previous experience, I knew that I had to speak with Jesse before saying it was okay to have his picture taken. He was totally cool with it.
The other times I have experienced difficulty with Jesse is when he has been threatened re PA and despite what I think is a really open communication thing we have going, it took me two hours to draw out of him what was actually said to him by the child, the first time it happened.
Also, there was this past summer where he slipped up and touched the chocolate bar and he was SO angry that his sister had told us what had happened. He was, in fact, angry with himself for having slipped up, because he never does.
Now, in re-reading this thread and the answers so far, I'm wondering if these would be classified as behaviour problems or actual normal responses to what is going on in his life. I believe he has the right to feel angry, to not want attention drawn to him that he doesn't want, etc.
This Fall, in going into school, the teacher read the No Nuts For Me book and when it came to the part where Noah asks about other children wearing MedicAlert bracelets and carrying Epi-pens, Jesse raised his hand, of his own free will and almost proudly. This is exactly what I am hoping that he will continue to do throughout his life. But, the situation was totally different than last year. The teacher did not draw attention to him by singling him out, it just turned out that Jesse was the only child that did, in fact, have these two items. Also, because of the positive discussion that ensued afterward, Jesse could feel nothing but okay about it.
So, again, I'm not sure if I should be saying that yes, my child does have behavioural problems because of his PA. But, then, he certainly has anger towards himself, the inability to communicate with his parents when he is scared, and the not wanting to be singled out, which he would not have if he wasn't PA. Do you know what I mean?
As river pointed out in her post, she has more difficulty with her non-PA daughter and we're at the point with our non-PA daughter (just turned 4 last week) where I am considering taking her to the doctor to see where her behaviour is coming from. She is SO different from her brother and yet her changes in behaviour are SO radical and fast that we are becoming concerned. At first, it was difficult for us to deal with because Jesse had NEVER been like this. We had to realize that different children are different and have different behaviours and ways of dealing with things. After that realization (DUH! [img][/img] ), we began to deal with Ember differently and still we're tearing our hair out. So, as with river, out of the two children, I would definitely say that my daughter has behavioural problems whereas with my PA son, as I've outlined, I'm not clear if what he is experiencing would be considered *problems* or the difficulties inherent in having a food allergy. At any rate, I do know that he would not have these things going on if he wasn't PA.
Best wishes! [img][/img]

Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 3:47am
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Actually, again, in re-reading the thread and the responses so far, there is another excellent question herein. Is YOUR response to your child's PA affecting your child's behaviour? (I would be pleased if someone else could raise it, but if no one does, I do think it is interesting and will raise it myself later).
I personally think that the majority of us do not show our fear to our children and do not indicate to our children that they are somehow being overprotected. I know that this is the case with me, as I'm sure it's the case with TLSMOM and others above. I believe what TLSMOM posted, if re-read would show that at such a young age, it would be difficult unless the parent was totally wigged out all the time re the allergy, which I could almost say that TLSMOM wouldn't be, without even knowing her, for the child to be exhibiting these behaviours because of parental fear and overprotectiveness feelings being passed on to the child. I believe TLSMOM nailed it on the head when she said that her son probably felt angry because Mommy wasn't protecting him (although that wasn't Mommy's fault).
What I'm trying to say is that I believe most of us feel the need to keep our fear and our overprotectiveness of our PA children in check and when we have it, our PA children are the last people to know about it! I know that Jesse never knows that I'm afraid about certain things or having difficulty with the school or a whole litany of other things. Everyone here knows about it, Jesse doesn't.
The anger I feel towards the school, in particular, Jesse doesn't know about. Not one iota (?). I am positive about this.
And, in a society where I believe we are all what may be considered overprotective parents, that our children wouldn't know if we're being overprotective re PA or being overprotective because of our fear of things that go on in the world to-day (strangers, etc.).
So, yes, a really good question has been raised already so early in the discussion of this particular question. Someone else please raise it, please [img][/img] )
Best wishes! [img][/img]
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Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 12:16pm
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Joined: 03/19/2001 - 09:00

In response to the question: I have not experienced behavior problems with my son (5 yrs old) that I believe are a result of PA. I am not saying that such a thing is not possible...only that I don't feel that has been the case in our household. The only reason that I don't believe (in our case) that PA has been at the root of any issues is that my son with PA is a triplet, and I have not had any specific instances of behaviour that have differed much from his brothers (who do not have food allergies).
I hope I do not get flamed for my answer. I am in no way stating that I am a better parent than anyone else...just answering the question truthfully according to my experience with my child. (I would guess that whether or not it affects a child's behaviour is probably related to factors such as the severity of the allergies as well as the individual child's temperment, etc). Take care.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 12:51pm
Joined: 03/17/2001 - 09:00

Boy oh boy what a shame. Aren't we all getting a little too frightened to post for fear of being attacked. Everyones situtation is different and we really shouldn't be hollaring at each other. Well with hesitation I concede that my son is extremely well behaved. I would have people come up to me in restaurants and compliment on "such a cute and well -behaved baby!" "Oh such a handsome and well-mannered little boy!" It's just his personality. He had his moments when he was 2 yrs old. Normal from what I hear (Hmm-hmm). Yes there are studies that definitively connect food allergies and behavior problems but unless there has been an in depth study done specifically on ones child it is kind of hard to self-diagnose unless you are a licensed behaviorist. Any way just because my kid doesn't exhibit any behavior problems definitely does not imply that someone elses' child won't. *putting on my flame retardant suit* [img][/img] BTW DS is 9 now and he was covered with bleeding eczema (nothing could keepthis kid from scratching) from the time of infancy and had many symptoms of food allergies that I did not recognize nor the pediatrician until I figured it out when he was 2 1/2. So one can have a similar backround with opposite reactions.*zipping up flame retardant suit*
It would be nice if we were all on the same page. We don't have to be on the same paragraph but geez, on the same page. I got hollared at in another thread and wow, I thought we should be helping each other. I think we should all agree to disagree on some topics.
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Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 12:53pm
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

To answer the question, no, I don't see any behaviour issues with Cayley relating to PA.
I wonder why this question was posted at Nicole's web site? There is a theory (unproven and dismissed by most physicians) that allergies may cause ADD/ADHD or similar behaviour problems. If allergies are directly linked to behaviour, how so? Would the atopic child exhibit more behavioural challenges, due to the fact that he/she is dealing with a greater variety of issues? Would a child with very few allergies besides PA be less likely to develop behaviour-related problems, due to the fact that they're likely "comfortable" most of the time, unlike the atopic child, who may be dealing with itchy eczema, chronic asthma and allergic rhinitis?
Sorry for the ramble, but I'd like to know what the reasoning is behind this question. Or is it just a poll? I wonder what Nicole will do with the results? Will keeping the allergy/atopy under control modify the behaviour? Is that the focus of this issue?
Carolyn (who is very curious today!)

Posted on: Sun, 09/30/2001 - 1:35pm
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Joined: 07/05/2001 - 09:00

No my son does not have behavior problems either because of his pa. Drew does have speech problems. He has been going for speech therapy since he was 2 1/2.
The only behavior problem that I have with Drew is that when he does not want to be corrected on something he has done that he shouldn't have he will go immediately into a crying episode. I think though that this might be normal to get out of his punishement or lecture because he knows if he continutes to cry that he will flare up his eczema.
My step son who is now 12 is ADHD. He was allergy tested when he was 6. He did not have any allergies at all.
I think all of our children go with different behavior patterns at different times for different reasons. Nobody is perfect 100% of the time. I bet most if not all of our children really are "precious little angels."
God Bless Us All,
Renee [img][/img]
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