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Posted on: Fri, 09/05/2003 - 1:33pm
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Joined: 05/11/2004 - 09:00

I do also think that 'safer' is the way to go rather than an outright ban. This way we can hopefully educate the school community about anaphylaxis, and make not only our school but the outside world a safer place for the PA child. I feel that an outright ban would anger many people. I'd rather try to help them understand. From understanding comes acceptance.

Posted on: Fri, 09/05/2003 - 4:01pm
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Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by KateB:
[b] From understanding comes acceptance.
I think "acceptance" and "accomodation" are highly intertwined. I also think "acceptance" begets more than just "reasonable accomodation". Possibly that [i]moral/ethical compassion[/i] spoken of frequently on these boards.
Almost feel like going into the relationship between "Understanding" and "Acceptance". But then I'd have to bring up a familiar cousin of the two, "Knowledge". "Opportunity" has got to be in there somewhere.
Just my plug nickel. And just me talking in circles. For what it's worth.
MommaBear [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/cool.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sat, 09/06/2003 - 3:07am
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Quote:Originally posted by KateB:
[b]AnnaMarie - Remember that some of us on this board are teachers as well as parents of a PA child. Teachers are people too, and are as varied in personality as in any other occupation or profession. As a PA parent I understand your stress. As a teacher, I took the "quack" remark personally (although I know I shouldn't have [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I don't mean to upset anyone, but I was rather upset when I read your post.[/b]
Kate, sorry to have offended. (I'm not editing to change because then it just makes the thread not make sense.)
I [b]do[/b] agree there are fabulous teachers - and lots of them. This particular teacher isn't one of them.
BTW, my future (I hope) dil is in university to be a teacher (the same university her mother got her teaching degree).
And Kate - how was your first day of school? Do you have a pa child? are things well at his/her school? ([i]This is not sarcasm - I am truly asking out of caring/concern. And hoping an honest apology will be accepted.[/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] )
Glad to *see* you again MB. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sat, 09/06/2003 - 5:46am
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Joined: 05/11/2004 - 09:00

I apologise to you for being grumpy [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img] So of course your apology is accepted. I knew as I was typing that I shouldn't have taken offence.
My first day at school went well - we got our students from last year back, which lets us look at numbers etc., and hopefully saves reorganizing classes once the students have been placed. My new group shouldn't take too long to settle in. I have a PA child in my class this year.
My own PA son started Grade 12 this year, so pretty much handles things on his own, though we do meet with his counsellor before school starts, and make sure all his teachers know about his allergy. The counsellor talks about the allergy on the first day of school at the staff meeting, and makes sure that all staff members who have anything to do with my son use the Epipen trainer.
The stress doesn't lessen for the parent as the PA child grows up and becomes a young adult, but you do have to take more of a 'hands off' approach and let them deal with things themselves.

Posted on: Sun, 09/07/2003 - 4:13am
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Joined: 04/17/1999 - 09:00

Our prinicipal has PA and carries Epi-pens! DD's teacher has taught PA kids before. The teacher's aide in the neighboring room has a PA child.
I met with my daughter's teacher, lunch room attendant, play ground supervisor and school nurse the week before and we worked through all the different scenarios. The school secretary, a neighbor, said she is "flooded with epi-pens" for various allergies this year. DD is adjusting and learning much. I am grateful for the support we have enjoyed from this wonderful group of professionals. I wish every parent posting on this site the same experience.
After much discussion with our allergist we decided not to ask the school to go 'nut-free' at this point. PB is on the menu for lunch this Monday and I will be on hand to eat with DD. I realize this is counter to the values we hold as members of this site, but the school has managed the allergy without incident in the past.
Good luck to you all!

Posted on: Sun, 09/07/2003 - 2:50pm
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Joined: 08/26/2003 - 09:00

after reading boards tonight i am almost afraid to report on our wonderful first week back!!!i have be asking about a strong letter that i would personall hand out and my prayers were answered!!! it turns out my princple was thinking of this also and a letter went out evry bit as strong as i wanted it and i did not write it she did!!!Yeah!!she is also on the hunt for hand book (thank you mainstream!)also looking for disability rights(tanks again)she was unaware of either.also another p/a joined us and now there are 2. i did try to email you but i had probs last month with hard drive and will try again!!! oh,yeah most important my very asthmatic son(7) joined the cross country team and finished 2 overall!!! i can not express that achievment to be as big as it is unless you heard my voice!!!!YEAHHHH!!!! i will continue to add to my sons self esteem and every goal met is one for the p/a team! hopefully my "bragging" does not ofend anyone i am only sharing some light at the end of a tunnel!! wishing all as much good fortune!!

Posted on: Sun, 09/07/2003 - 2:58pm
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domesticgodess, arachide posted the link for the Canadian School Boards Anaphylaxis Handbook (I get confused with it's long name [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img] ) in the Schools section of the board. It is a 74 page document and takes about 15 minutes to download with dial-up.
I have two e-mail addresses. You can try e-mailing me at the one listed in my profile and perhaps it will get through okay. The other one should have as well. I thought maybe you were typing yahoo.com instead of yahoo.ca
I am glad to hear that all went well with you and yours this past week.
I'll re-read everyone else's and respond later (I keep forgetting I do have to kinda go to bed 'cus I have to get up in the morning and get kids off to school).
I can certainly report on Ember's first day of school but I really feel Jesse's isn't "officially" until tomorrow when he is not eating with the principal. He did eat with the principal, with my agreement, for the first two days (Thursday and Friday last week).
And I also want to respond to everyone who posted so I know I really read how your first day went.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Mon, 09/08/2003 - 3:40am
becca's picture
Joined: 05/22/2001 - 09:00

I think we had a great first day. I just realize we had a bit of a disorganized, control freakish sort last year(to say the least) and I think I already like our teacher alot, even though we just met today.
On a basic school, allergies aside, level she seems kind, has a warm and welcoming demeanor and is already a very good listener. The kids were very happy and dd had no seperation troubles. Then parents went to orientation and back with the teacher for more specific stuff to the class.
On the allergy front, last year(this is preschool) was the first year they had any PA kids and the went "peanut-free." There were a few kinks. I was glad to see these things addresses at the orientation, and to see signs(hot pink) on every door declaring it a peanut/nut free environment, no peanut butter! The director also discussed label reading, asking parents to even try to check for "may contains". Makes me wonder if a new parent is in the school with more strict requests(myslef and the other mom I have connected with this year did not request that much accomodation). She made it very clear warnings are in the fine print and that traces are a problem for the allergic individuals. She said there will be more info to follow in handouts/newsletters. We will see what follow up it gets, but it was a strong start nonetheless. She presents it very well in stating very simply it will make the allergic kids unable to breathe, and they love and want all the children safe and comfotable in school.
I did want to provide each daily snack for my dd and went in saying this as I handed a bag to the teacher. She actually spoke with the other PA mom and I after and we agreed to try to come up with a safe list between us. It will be short, since we also have egg allergy, and her son has milk allergy in addition to nut allergies. I explained that things got confusing last year and I wanted to be sure I knew exaclty what she was getting and this teacher seemed pretty clear on having thos safe things for the two with allergies(and the other available offerings are always free of peanuts/nuts/may contain labels anyway). I think the teacher's position is she wants to always have her own safe thing in store, so as not to ever be without for our kids(not because she wants to have control, which was our last year issue!).
I think it will be good. becca

Posted on: Mon, 09/08/2003 - 3:07pm
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Joined: 09/21/2002 - 09:00

I think things are going well with DS's new school too. We meet with them tomorrow to find out what the school is going to do to accomodate DS's LD, and what sort of enrichment they will provide for the gifted area as well.
Ds seems very happy and says he "LOVES" his new school. We did have a problem with bullying, but it was a carry over problem from a child in our townhouse complex who has been bullying DS the past few weeks. I contacted the school immediately and they contacted the child's parents, etc. I was very pleased [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]



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