Dd had a reaction and I cannot figure out why

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 3:46am
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The reaction was not serious, but I still need to know what caused it. It happened last night immediately after dinner. I talked to the allergist this morning and he agreed it was a reaction. She 11 and is allergic to milk and peanuts. She used to be allergic to egg and had an anaphylactic reaction to egg at age 2 1/2, but outgrew her egg allergy at age 9. I hope it hasn`t come back. For dinner she had pancakes and juice. The pancakes had Bisquick (brand new box which I bought about two months ago), soy milk (brand is 8th continent, the only one not on shared equipment with cow`s milk, we were near the end of the bottle), canola oil margarine (we have used this container at least 50 times), an egg, and Divvies chocolate chips. I am totally stumped as to what caused it. I hope her egg allergy is not back. I talked to the allergist and he said as long as she eats an egg product at least once a month it won`t come back. She hates eggs, but does eat mayonaise all the time and the allergist said that mayonaise would count as an egg product and so the egg allergy should not be back. I called the company for Bisquick, read them the codes on the package. The plant for this package is peanut free/tree nut free and there are no shared lines with milk. I talked to Mark at Divvies, the choclate chips are made by another company. He is confident they don`t have milk, peanuts, tree nuts. I am sending the chocolate chips and the Bisquick off for testing. There have not been any reported reactions on the Bisquick or the Divvies chocolate chips. The allergist is having a cap rast drawn on dd today for egg, and also milk and peanuts which she was due for in a few months anyhow.

Anyone have any ideas what caused it? By the way, it is just dd and me living here, so there is no cross contamination going on in my house (no one sticking a knife in the margarine after sticking it in a milk product, etc.)

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 4:21am
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I never knew that after outgrowing an allergy having it once a month would prevent it for sure. Is this a certainty or a "most likely" kind of scenario?
My first thought would be the egg too but I don't know. Mystery reactions are the worst. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] Hopefully you'll have an answer soon about the egg at least.

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 5:45am
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did she have syrup?

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 6:08am
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You said she had juice, but didn't elaborate on that. What else does the juice company make? What kind of juice was it?

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 7:10am
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could you fill us in on what the reaction was like? i too am at a loss on some recent reactions with my son who will have rast testing on dec. 4th - first time they could get us in.

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 7:58am
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Hi Carefulmom,
I'm sorry for your daughters reaction. Did she realize that she was reacting while eating or after she finished? The products seem safe to the best of my knowledge - I would hate for one of those to be cross-contaminated.
You have probably thought of this, but was she someplace before dinner where she might have picked up something, although she probably washed her hands before eating. What were the symptoms of the reaction - could it possibly be environmental or no chance? I hope you find out what it was; mystery reactions stink!

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 10:00am
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Hi Carefulmom - I'm so sorry to hear about your DD's reaction. I don't really have any ideas to add as to what she could have possibly reacted from (I'm sorry), but I wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about you and your DD and hoping you find the answer to what caused her reaction.
Did she have to have an epi injection? What was the reaction like?
Hugs to you and your DD!
Tracy

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 10:05am
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Are you also having the margarine tested for milk? Wondering if that could have cc on factory lines. . .

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 11:58am
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The reaction was just a few hives. It wasn`t serious, but I still need to know what caused it. Based on the timing, the allergist and I both feel it was a reaction. The juice was Welch`s brand Mango Twist and also Welch`s brand grape juice. I don`t see how the juice could be cross contaminated with milk, or peanuts. Gail W., I thought about sending the margarine, but I did not. I think it would have to go on ice, would be complicated to ship, and since dd has eaten margarine from that tub at least 50 times, I think it is not the margarine. I can always send it for testing later, if the other things test negative. It is very discouraging because this probably means either the egg allergy is back or she has not outgrown her milk allergy that we were hoping she would outgrow on the next blood test. She was due to have a cap rast for milk in February 2007. It is beginning to feel like the Van De Kamps incident all over again, as I am wondering if I have unknowingly exposed her to something over and over. Cooking dinner is now very stressful as we are now avoiding egg until this is settled, so I had to read the ingredients of the food in my own house to see what she could have. Normally if your child is egg allergic, you have an egg free house, so you don`t have to read the ingredients in your own house. I had to read the bread for her sandwich that I am packing for tomorrow and she wanted chicken nuggets for dinner but now she cannot have them since they have egg. No corn dogs either. She did not have syrup on the pancakes, but did have powdered sugar on them, again the container was open and had been used by us before. The Bisquick wasn`t expired. She was with me before dinner, so it couldn`t have been due to somewhere she went. She realized she was reacting right after dinner. I was doing the dishes and she came to me and showed me a few hives.

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 12:07pm
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Carefulmom,
Not thinking about cross-contamination with the juices, but has she had the Mango before? Or since?
Good luck,
Daisy

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 12:34pm
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I have no wisdom here that hasn't been offered--or that you haven't thought of yourself.
I just wanted to say that I'm sorry she had a reaction.

Posted on: Mon, 11/13/2006 - 12:38pm
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She has had mango many times. We have been drinking this mango twist for years. I think it is either:
1. Egg allergy is back (allergist says that this is extremely unlikely)
2. Divvies chocolate chips
I will be heartbroken if I find I have been giving dd cross contaminated chocolate chip cookies for the past year. That already happened with Van De Kamps (gave dd something for nine months and then found out it always had milk in it, but was mislabeled for nine months, meanwhile dd`s cap rast went up 250% due to the mislabeling and ongoing exposure). I am already feeling a knot in my stomach over this whole thing, because I don`t know what caused it.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 2:11am
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Quote:Originally posted by Carefulmom:
[b] I am already feeling a knot in my stomach over this whole thing, because I don`t know what caused it.[/b]
I'm right there with you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
Do you mind me asking, how often does your DD have CAP RAST testing? Do you test for each allergen with the same frequency? or do you have different testing 'schedules' depending on the allergen?

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 2:14am
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Recently he has been doing milk once a year because before the Van De Kamps incident it was almost low enough for a challenge. At the same time he does peanut, but only because the blood is already being drawn. He is doing egg this time, but only because we don`t know what caused the reaction and I am worried that the egg allergy is back.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 2:28am
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When do you expect the CAP RAST results will be ready? If the egg result is positive, then you'd have the answer, right?

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 2:35am
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Normally it is 10 days to two weeks, because it always gets sent to IBT in Kansas. With Thanksgiving I wonder if it will be longer.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 6:11am
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Carefulmom,
I'm sorry about her reaction - it's worrisome. But before you drive yourself to distraction trying to figure out what it was, it may have been absolutely nothing at all. I say this because a few weeks ago our PA DD had the same situation - ate nothing unusual, wasn't even out of the house, and then in middle of the night - six hours after eating anything - woke up with some mild hives. Our allergist said that children who are allergic have very reactive skin that will sometimes just break out for no apparant reason - he was certain it had nothing to do with food because it was so long after she ate.
The one thing he did ask - was she recently sick with cold or any other virus? That can apparently trigger hives.
So it may hav ebeen food, but don't worry yourself too much about what it could have been just spontaneous.
Good luck, I hope your daughter is doing fine now.
Quote:Originally posted by Carefulmom:
[b]The reaction was just a few hives. It wasn`t serious, but I still need to know what caused it. Based on the timing, the allergist and I both feel it was a reaction. The juice was Welch`s brand Mango Twist and also Welch`s brand grape juice. I don`t see how the juice could be cross contaminated with milk, or peanuts. Gail W., I thought about sending the margarine, but I did not. I think it would have to go on ice, would be complicated to ship, and since dd has eaten margarine from that tub at least 50 times, I think it is not the margarine. I can always send it for testing later, if the other things test negative. It is very discouraging because this probably means either the egg allergy is back or she has not outgrown her milk allergy that we were hoping she would outgrow on the next blood test. She was due to have a cap rast for milk in February 2007. It is beginning to feel like the Van De Kamps incident all over again, as I am wondering if I have unknowingly exposed her to something over and over. Cooking dinner is now very stressful as we are now avoiding egg until this is settled, so I had to read the ingredients of the food in my own house to see what she could have. Normally if your child is egg allergic, you have an egg free house, so you don`t have to read the ingredients in your own house. I had to read the bread for her sandwich that I am packing for tomorrow and she wanted chicken nuggets for dinner but now she cannot have them since they have egg. No corn dogs either. She did not have syrup on the pancakes, but did have powdered sugar on them, again the container was open and had been used by us before. The Bisquick wasn`t expired. She was with me before dinner, so it couldn`t have been due to somewhere she went. She realized she was reacting right after dinner. I was doing the dishes and she came to me and showed me a few hives. [/b]

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 9:43am
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Hives six hours after eating is a totally different story. I also would not think that would be an allergic reaction. Since dd`s hives started immediately after eating, it probably was an allergic reaction. It is all about the timing. One time she had at least 20 hives about three hours after eating, and I did not worry about it. But with it being immediately after eating, it is most likely an allergic reaction and I really need to know why. Poor thing, she got braces today and now the list of things she can eat is even shorter!

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 10:36am
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Sorry about your dd's reaction. Fingers crossed it wasn't egg....
In case you didn't see it, Hood recently did a recall in the Northeast for undeclared milk in apple juice. I don't think Welch's has any milk products right? But just thought I'd mention.
Keep us posted. Meg

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 12:56pm
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I could not decide whether to post this or not, but I decided to because I think everyone should know. The Divvies chocolate chips are NOT made in a milk free plant. I found this out yesterday. I was stunned, since this is in conflict with what the company states. Some of us with milk allergic kids avoid may contains and some don`t. I never give dd may contains for milk because I want her to outgrow it.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 1:08pm
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I'm so sorry to hear your daughter had a reaction. That is so scary.
I am headed over to Divvie's right now to re-read their statement. I can't believe this info. I feed their cookies to my milk allergic son, and luckily, with no problems. But I, too try to be very strict in avoidance for the hope of outgrowing...thank you for sharing.
I have to also say, that I, too wondered about the mango drink. My cashew allergic daughter had an oral reaction to mango...botanically related to cashew. Maybe the allergist could look into that, too..just to be safe.
Good luck to you...
Let us know what your allegist makes of this new twist.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 1:25pm
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Interesting. Last week, I got this big red huge itchy hive/raised welt irregular borders on my upper abdomen. I thought: "[i]Huh[/i]--good reminder so I know what to look for on the cubs...."
Anyway, now thinking about it....it was also the week I bought some mango variety V-8. Could be nothing, but interesting.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 1:39pm
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Dd was tested for mango about two years ago because I thought I might be allergic to it. I had avoided mango for her, because I had some mouth tingling after eating mango. So dd had a cap rast for mango plus about 10 tree nuts about 2 years ago. All was negative. I also got tested and was negative.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 1:40pm
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oh no, your poor dd! A reaction and now braces?
I just got my braces off about a year and a half ago.
Some tips:
-sugarless gum doesn't stick to braces, despite what they tell you. but it does get caught up between your braces and your teeth, along with everything else you eat. I usually had to check my mouth after every meal to make sure I wasn't flashing people food.
-it is VERY IMPORTANT to brush!! Or her teeth will rot. Not cool
-for the first few months, she may get canker sores. I had over 20 inside my mouth at one point. Orajel works wonders, if she can use it. Just tell her to be careful not to swallow it or her throat will go numb too. Same with your finger if you leave it there too long.
-if they want her to have a permanent retainer, I recommend it. it is very hard to get used to, but it's better than having your teeth move back and having to do the braces all over.
-it is also VERY IMPORTANT when she gets them off to wear her retainer for as long or longer as the doc recommends. I got my braces in college, and *everyone* who had had braces in high school told me to wear my retainer because they didn't and their teeth have moved back.
And that is horrible about the divvies...I guess if everything you sent in turns up negative you'll know what had caused it [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 1:44pm
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This is off the Divvies website (I copied and pasted):
"Now, Divvies fun-foods are available to share with families and friends across the country. They're made with the utmost care and same home-kitchen ingredients in the Sandler's own dedicated-to-Divvies bakery -- which means that no peanuts, tree nuts, milk or eggs will ever be on site."
I don`t see how they can say no milk will ever be on site, when the chocolate chips are made in a plant that does have milk.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 1:50pm
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From their site as well...
"Always conscious of the need for really delicious-tasting food that people with food allergies can eat, Divvies delivers fun foods baked and popped without peanuts, tree nuts, eggs and milk. Divvies are baked in a dedicated facility where no peanuts, tree nuts, eggs or milk enter the doors. And Divvies uses ingredients that are certified allergen-free."
Hmmmm...so they have determined their chips are milk free...or so it appears.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 1:53pm
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If the chips are milk free, they are still made in a facility with milk and that contradicts the part that you just copied about milk not entering the doors.

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For some reason I thought their chips were brought in from another company. And I assume that 'other' company may have been where the problem lay. But the statement you pasted seems to say they make their own stuff....chips included? If not, then they tested their off site made chips and certified them as milk free....or should I say 'mostly' milk free.
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Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 3:02pm
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Quote:Originally posted by Carefulmom:
[b]If the chips are milk free, they are still made in a facility with milk and that contradicts the part that you just copied about milk not entering the doors.[/b]
If they believe their chips to be certified milk free, then it doesn't contradict their statement about milk not entering their doors. Obviously if the test results are not accurate then....well then, people can react. Not good.
I do know what you're saying though...I do really. I am just trying to think how they justify being able to state what they do.
I am curious how you found out, did they tell you on the phone? Email? Did they see the problem with their statement???

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 7:51pm
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Quote:Originally posted by Carefulmom:
[B]Hives six hours after eating is a totally different story. B]
There are some of us who have delayed reactions...I'm one of them (three hours to 12 hours later after eating).

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 11:42pm
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This is the statement I am referring to:
"Divvies are baked in a dedicated facility where no peanuts, tree nuts, eggs or milk enter the doors."
That statement is not true of their chocolate chips. Their chocolate chips are not made in a facility where no milk enters the door. So that statement is not true. Unless by the word "Divvies", they are referring only to their cookies and not their other products. But elsewhere on the website, they use the word "Divvies" to mean all of their products that they sell on their website. And if "Divvies" means everything they sell on their website, then the above statement is not true.
How I found out was I asked him point blank if his company makes the chocolate chips. He said no, they are made elsewhere. I asked if the other company makes chocolate chips with milk. He said yes. I said maybe he was sent the wrong ones. I also received an email last night from someone on this board about a suspected reaction to Divvies chocolate chips, the same thing dd ate. The other person never sent them off for testing. The disappointing thing is that I saw the owner of Divvies as one of us. He has a MFA child. I thought I could trust him not to misrepresent a product. Whether the chocolate chips caused the reaction or whether they didn`t, they are still not made in a milk free plant and that contradicts what they put on their website. As the consumer of a product made for people with allergies, I have a right to make an informed decision. When companies misrepresent the truth, we aren`t able to do that.

Posted on: Tue, 11/14/2006 - 11:59pm
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WOW!
Quote:Originally posted by Carefulmom:
[BWhether the chocolate chips caused the reaction or whether they didn`t, they are still not made in a milk free plant and that contradicts what they put on their website. [/B]
Exactly.
I'm [i]shocked [/i]that Divvies uses a product(s) that may be cross contaminated! I mean, the sole reason consumers purchase from specialty companies like Divvies (paying much higher prices BTW) is precisely for the security of knowing they are [i]safe. [/i] If they use ingredients that may be contaminated, then [b][i]what's the point[/i][/b]???? Grrrrrrr !!
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img] This is extremely distressing!

Posted on: Wed, 11/15/2006 - 12:14am
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Also wanted to mention that perhaps you'll have the food results before you receive dd's CAP RAST report. The FARRP lab received my sample last Wednesday and e-mailed the results on Monday. . . just 4 days.
Thanks for keeping us posted, Carefulmom. This is unbelievable. Regardless of the food results, you must just be furious.

Posted on: Wed, 11/15/2006 - 12:47am
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Hugs.
I'm afraid of posting my thoughts on this.
Maybe because my answer 'I dont know what caused hives' doesnt answer the question.
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Normally, I would say, there are too many variables to explain the hives.
And Id continue talking about how you don't KNOW what caused hives, and before you 'jump to conclusions' on a certain company and their CC's... and 'POSSIBLE' cross contamination (not saying there contamination... possible, because I dont BUY said product...)
Theres just many things.. What if someone drank milk from a container, or had a PB&J, and then drank welch's juice FROM The container, kwim?
I mean... there's many things...
How many butters in the house? Could a knife from a dairy butter touch the non dairy butter, kwim?
Or jam that was contaminated with dairy was used for this butter tub...
Or if syrup container TOUCHED waffles with dairy, or ANYTHING like that...
You could drive yourself insane with this line of thinking....
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That's what I'd NORMALLY say.
YOUR situation? Since VDK... different.
I can't say ANY of that, nor do I expect answers to it...
Just hugs... Good luck with RAST.
Jason

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Like I said in my original post on this thread, it is just dd and me living here so there is no cross contamination going on in my house, no one sticking a knife in a milk product and then in dairy free margarine, etc. There is no chance it is cross contamination in my house.

Posted on: Wed, 11/15/2006 - 1:33am
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We welcome feedback and suggestions as we are continually looking to improve Divvies and make everyone's lives easier -- especially when it comes to representing the details of our ingredients. Divvies chocolate chips are certified peanut-, tree nut-, milk- and egg- free by the manufacturer. This certification is routinely updated. In addition, the manufacturer certifies that the chocolate chips are made on dedicated peanut-, tree nut-, milk- and egg-free production lines. We have additionally performed routine testing on all Divvies raw ingredients for peanuts, milk, eggs and almonds since the inception of our business. The Divvies facility is peanut-, tree nut-, milk- and egg-free. We have asked our webmaster to change our website to clarify that Divvies chocolate chips are not manufactured in the Divvies plant -- we are grateful for your input so we can make this change. It was never our intention to mislead our customers or misrepresent our products. Once again, we welcome your feedback and appreciate your dedication. I am available to discuss these details and welcome your calls at 914-533-0333. Thank you, Mark and Lori Sandler

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ok then...
Again, I preface it that I have no answer.
And normally, I would say it was cross contaminated with something from the fridge...
But you're sure of yourself, and your daughter... I can't offer any advice on this one, kwim? You know your house better than us... and you'd have a better answer than us too..
Just hugs!
Jason

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Maybe Divvies did not misrepresent the chocolate chips, rather the chocolate chip makers did...
I'm wondering what the testing on the chocolate chips will show.
Cathy

Posted on: Wed, 11/15/2006 - 12:52pm
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Good luck with the braces. My orthodontist used to give me wax to keep them from causing sores in my mouth; of course, you'll need to check on the ingredients of the wax with her allergies.
And may I suggest a Water-Pik. The braces will chew up tooth brushes, so stick with the cheap brushes. But with the Water-Pik I was able to remove tons more. Even after sandwiches.
Please make sure you *see* the Ortho Tech open a new autoclave bag when she goes for an adjustment. I know it's not *procedure*, but sometimes they get in a hurry. Just wouldn't want pliers in her mouth that were not thoroughly cleaned and sanitized.
Take care,
Daisy

Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 3:34am
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Any results back?

Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 3:39am
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My son's cross-allergenicity with soy began only a couple years ago. No soy lecithen allergy had been noted for nearly a decade then it suddenly became apparent. Hope that is not your case, but I am sure yours will be retested.

Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 4:13am
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No results yet. I figure I will call Wednesday morning if I have not heard from them. It was received last Tuesday. (I will be on a field trip all day tomorrow.) We would really like this resolved before Thanksgiving. Dd`s diet has been even more restricted than usual because if nothing tests positive then her egg allergy may be back. So we have eliminated all egg products from her already restricted milk free peanut free nut free diet. She is not happy with having to go back to veganaisse instead of mayonaisse, no more pancakes (have not bought egg replacer yet, hoping this will all be resolved in a few days). She loves egg bagels but they are off limits while this is being sorted out. Our Thanksgiving was going to be in a restaurant because my family is spread out between two cities 140 miles apart. There are elderly relatives in both cities so due to the distance we were all going to meet in a restaurant halfway. I am even rethinking going if this is not all resolved by then. The possible egg allergy makes it even harder to eat in restaurants, and dd really does not want to go and watch people eat restaurant food while she eats food I brought. I was comfortable with this restaurant from the standpoint of milk allergy and pa after a long phone call to the manager, but adding in the unknown about egg adds a whole new twist. Had not even thought about soy, but that is another possibility. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Quote:Originally posted by Carefulmom:
[b]...The possible egg allergy makes it even harder to eat in restaurants, and dd really does not want to go and watch people eat restaurant food while she eats food I brought. ...[/b]
Sorry to hear an allergy (or a new one) has come around [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
I've forgotten how old your DD is?
I ask b/c I had a thought and wanted to share. I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who has grown up into adulthood with PA/TNA.
So often on this board, we see instances of making replacement treats, etc. in effort to not have the child 'left out' of an activity or party. That's all good, and I don't want this post to come across as judging that...I'm sooooo not trying to do that [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
There are going to be times, when older, in teens, early 20's, etc. that because of severe food allergies one has to 'go without'. I've been there plenty of times. It can be hard for sure, and for a young child or tween to go through that is difficult. However, I think that the food allergic children sometimes do have to 'go without' and learn to bear it gracefully and figure out how to have the experience of 'going without' just roll off their back. Oh sure, you'd feel angry, sad, embarassed --- but the skill of 'not letting it get to you' is learned/acquired through lessons the/our parents teach us. I truly think that needs to start young. If I went around feeling angry or resentful at every food/meal I couldn't eat while at a party or out with friends or sharing in holiday experiences --- I'd be a wreck! It just rolls off my back now, I can't dwell on it, I don't dwell on it. Oh sure though, sometimes I go "Oh DARN!" and dwell on it for a whole of 10 seconds, but it stops there.
What I was thinking Carefulmom, even though you have been dealt a new blow (and possibly this isn't the right time, but I wanted to share my thoughts anyway)...it may be a proper time for her to deal with 'being without' or eating different food at the restaurant. Which is more important in the general scheme of things: Her feeling bad/angry/resentful and having to eat homecooked food or being with family to enjoy the holiday? Her not going doesn't just affect her, it means your whole family unit wouldn't go. You'd miss out on seeing extended older family, who may not be around next year. To me...family is more important. So, it's a lesson in sucking it up, bearing with it with a smile on your face, and knowing it's not that bad of an experience and she can get through it...laugh with family...etc.
Just wanted to share...
Adrienne
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Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 6:53am
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My DS is on a milk free, egg free and avoiding nut diet. Here is a pancake recipe I love!!
2 cups flour
4 tsp baking powder
1/4 tsp salt
2 T. sugar
2 cups water
3 T. oil
1/4 tsp. vanilla
Mix all with whisk. Spray pan with cooking spray when making the pancakes.
Cool on wax paper, and then freeze (wax paper in between) for easy pancakes throughout the week.
Hope you find out something soon....

Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 7:05am
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Hi ajgauthier, I am not sure if you read the whole thread or not, but she probably isn`t allergic to egg. What I was trying to say was until we get the test results on the chocolate chips and the Bisquick, we have to act as though she is allergic to egg. It was most likely a mislabeled product that caused the reaction. Her allergist said as long as she is eating mayonaise at least once a month which she is, the egg allergy probably won`t come back. But without test results on the food, we are hanging.
My dd at age 11 1/2 has eaten hundreds upon hundreds of meals watching people eat food she cannot have, so she definitely doesn`t need to learn to deal with it now. She learned that years ago. I am not sure if you have kids or not---I know you are here because you are pa, not your child. I agree that family comes first, but dd is my family. My first responsibility is to her. It`s one thing to make her watch others eat food she cannot eat when it is someone else`s occasion---birthday, anniversary, or whatever. But I won`t make her do that on Thanksgiving. She should be able to enjoy her Thanksgiving. If the test results aren`t back, we`ll do something fun on Thanksgiving, just the two of us. I`m not going to force her to sit and watch other people eat restaurant food while she can`t have any, when it is a holiday that she should be able to enjoy also. She has had to do that too many times already. My dd comes first.

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Thanks lilpig99, that looks like a good recipe. I`ll try it if we don`t have results soon.

Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 7:21am
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Quote:Originally posted by ajgauthier:
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So, it's a lesson in sucking it up,
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lol...ya don't say?

Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 9:14am
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Quote:Originally posted by Carefulmom:
[b]I agree that family comes first, but dd is my family. My first responsibility is to her. It`s one thing to make her watch others eat food she cannot eat when it is someone else`s occasion---birthday, anniversary, or whatever. But I won`t make her do that on Thanksgiving. She should be able to enjoy her Thanksgiving. [/b]
Man, I wish my parents felt that way. Every year I get dragged to Thanksgiving dinner, with the side of the family I don't like, just to sit there and eat stuffing while the rest of the family gets to eat three different types of pies, crackers, cheeses, cookies, candy, and oh yeah, the cans of nuts all over the place.
What I wouldn't give to have thanksgiving in a restaurant. I'm only PA, and god knows it'd be safer (not to mention easier to leave).
Even though I've been dealing with this for 20 years, I still do get sad sometimes watching other people eat. But I usually treat myself afterward to something that tastes infinitely better anyway, so it all evens out.
I'm glad you care about your daughter so much to forgo the dinner to make her thanksgiving nice [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 9:28am
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She must be so angry, Carefulmom. For those that don't deal routinely with MFA, it is almost impossible to find a safe restaurant meal. Period. To have done that (you thought) and then have it taken away almost at the last minute must be unbearable.
It is too bad that you won't be able to spend some time with the elderly family members because of the situation though-- I think that is probably what Adrienne was trying to say. I don't think it was about having her "learn" to "be different." We all have a different perspective about what it means to be "letting your food allergy get in the way of living your life." And sometimes that changes for reasons that aren't always even clear to [i]one's self!![/i] LOL!
It is hard to have to deal with a sudden change in your expectations when you are her age, though. For your daughter, not getting to eat the restaurant meal that everyone else is enjoying may be "letting her FAs win" at the moment. For Adrienne, skipping an event because of her PA feels like losing out. <> KWIM?
Hopefully you can find a way to make it right all the way around. Especially for your DD. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Quote:Originally posted by Corvallis Mom:
[b]She must be so angry, Carefulmom. For those that don't deal routinely with MFA, it is almost impossible to find a safe restaurant meal. Period. To have done that (you thought) and then have it taken away almost at the last minute must be unbearable.
It is too bad that you won't be able to spend some time with the elderly family members because of the situation though-- I think that is probably what Adrienne was trying to say. I don't think it was about having her "learn" to "be different." We all have a different perspective about what it means to be "letting your food allergy get in the way of living your life." And sometimes that changes for reasons that aren't always even clear to [i]one's self!![/i] LOL!
It is hard to have to deal with a sudden change in your expectations when you are her age, though. For your daughter, not getting to eat the restaurant meal that everyone else is enjoying may be "letting her FAs win" at the moment. For Adrienne, skipping an event because of her PA feels like losing out. <> KWIM?
Hopefully you can find a way to make it right all the way around. Especially for your DD. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by Corvallis Mom (edited November 20, 2006).][/b]
Thank you Corvallis Mom, I think you clarified the meaning of my post better than the way I had explained why I was posting. Just a different perspective is all...
Adrienne
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Posted on: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 10:48am
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Believe me, if she wanted to go we would go. She has absolutely no interest in going and watching people eat a ton of food she can`t have, like Starlight said. I`m with dd on this one. We can drive 140 miles to see the elderly relatives who live out of town any time. The ones who live in the same town as us we can see any time. No need to make dd do this when it is situation appropriate for her to not want to go. If I were in her shoes, I would not want to go either. She is really not missing out the way she is missing out if I tell her she can`t go to a slumber party due to pa. She has no desire to go to Thanksgiving in a restaurant and watch people eat food she cannot have, when the list of foods that she can have got noticably shorter due to this incident. Corvallis Mom, your child is egg allergic. You know how many things get eliminated because of that. Restaurant spaghetti is even off limits now (due to possible egg in the pasta).
If the Divvies or the Bisquick test positive, then we will know that she is not egg allergic and that she had a reaction to a mislabeled product. Because of this, we are really in limbo until we get the results. That is really the bigger picture--I am hoping to get the results on the food by Wednesday so we can confirm that she is not egg allergic and enjoy our restaurant Thanksgiving where I already arranged for cheeseless spaghetti for dd, and she was fine with that (she hates turkey, loves spaghetti).
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