Croup? Asthma?

Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2000 - 1:24am
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Hi all, my 2 year old PA son is in the middle of another bout of what my Dr. is calling croup. He has had 2 bouts of bronchitis in the past and when we had our visit to the allergist to confirm his peanut allergy, he told us to have Wade bach to see him if he developed another bout of bronchitis. My question is...should I be calling the Allergist about the Croup problem? My Dr. saw Wade last night and said his lungs were clear but prescribed some oral steroids to help with the "freight train" caughing which only happens at night. Is there a relationship between croup and asthma?? I can't seem to get a straight answer. I will see the allergist if this persists but I hate the idea as I am not very happy with him. Although he is competent and the head of the Asthma Clinic at our children's hospital, he has the worst bedside manner I have ever experienced and unfortunately, there is only one other Pediatric Allergist that I am aware of in Ottawa. Any ideas???

Thanks All!

Katiee (Wade's mom)

Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2000 - 1:58am
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pKatiee,br /
Good luck with the croup - we went through that 4 times over the winter!! You asked if there was a connection between croup and asthma... I don't know about that, but (and you probably know this already) there IS a connection between PA and asthma. Take care./p

Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2000 - 5:21am
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pAll four of my children have experienced croup, some more than others. It was explained to me that one person might just have a cold when another person with the same virus would experience croup. It all depends on what how your airway is put together. I have nieces and nephews who have never had croup but they have allergies. The steriod puffers seem to work well if you have an air chamber to use when they are having croup. I used Ventalyn and then a steriod./p
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Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2000 - 6:21pm
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pHi Katiee/p
pCroup is one of the most distressing things for your child to have. I went through it with my (non pa) daughter for about 2 months, so I really sympathise with you./p
pI'm not sure about the connection to asthma either, although my mother swears that croup is what gave it to me (of course, I probably would have developed it anyway)./p
pThe one thing that I found helped Eva was to steam her. What I did was take her into the bathroom (the smaller the better) and bring a kettle in a let the whole room fill up with steam. I'm not sure about how it works, but it helped her a lot by easing the cough./p
pGood luck./p
pGwen/p

Posted on: Sat, 04/08/2000 - 2:12am
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pMy asthmatic daughter has had several bouts of croup this winter and the croup has triggered asthma attacks that have had to be treated by the allergist. Yes do tell your allergist!/p

Posted on: Mon, 04/10/2000 - 1:56pm
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pLet me share my story. Last week I took my severely p.a. child to the allerg. spec. to have her retested for legumes/tree-nuts. My 21 month child started coughing. The doctor whirled around and informed us that croupy sounding cough was indicative of asthma, which is often triggered by allergies. He has soundy croupy since birth when we were told he had a "floppy" voice box. We were not told he should have outgrown it by six months. We got so used to it we thought it was normal for him. If it doesn't go away in 4 - 6 months he wants to see him for allerg. testing. The cough had started two days earlier and the pollen is terrible right now. (only my oldest has confirmed allergies) As of Saturday, my middle child is displaying allerg. symptoms to pollen, as well. He had a visit to the pediatrician the next day, who said it was probably being triggered by the pollen and put him on Clariton for 3 months. If it doesn't go away, agreed he should be tested for allergies/asthma. I am reading a book now "Johns Hopkins Health - Allergies - What You Need to Know" that discusses many allerg. aspects including the link between asthma allergies. I highly recommend this book! List price $9.95, Sam's Club has it for $5.78 (181 pgs.). If you have a history of food allergies and your child sounds croupy for an extended period of time, I would definitely have them checked for allergies! If you can avoid the allergen, the cough most likely will disappear. I had no idea that asthma is triggered by allergens. If you get lucky, like us, we have a pediatric asthma/allerg. spec. who we can trust. I will not tolerate poor doctor/patient rapport. We drive 2 1/2 hrs. one way to see this doctor because we don't care for the one that is 15 minutes away!/p

Posted on: Mon, 04/10/2000 - 11:47pm
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pThanks for your input everyone. I am going to see about getting an appointment with a new allergist for Wade as this so called "croup" seems to come back every time he has a cold and I would like some answers. I don't think putting him on steroids every time is the answer!/p
pThanks again!/p
pKatiee (Wade's mom)/p

Posted on: Tue, 04/11/2000 - 5:32am
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pUgh... I hate hate hate the croup!!! Last month I took my son to ER for an asthma attack that wouldn't go away. The doc told me it wasn't asthma... it was croup. My son has had croup before, but always with that horrible cough./p

Posted on: Thu, 04/13/2000 - 4:11am
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pI would get it checked out! My son was diagnosed at age 4 with asthma, before that he had bronchitis at least 6 times and the croup more times than I can recall. I have always wondered if a lot of his was asthma all along? Good luck!/p

Posted on: Fri, 04/14/2000 - 11:58pm
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pHas any one ever heard of a croup that flaired up upon waking? My non PA non asthmatic daughter woke up with a bit of a wheeze upon inhalation and a cough on exhalation, but now that she is fully awake, she appears fine./p
pAny thoughts?/p

Posted on: Tue, 04/18/2000 - 2:15am
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pMy daughter coughed from 3 months to now (she is 2 years old). The cough would come, regular pedi would give her steroids and breathing treatments. I worried about the steroids. Last November, she tested positive to peanuts and pecans (RAST). March we were back to the regular pedi for the cough. He has always been reluctant to mention or even consider 'asthma'. We looked over the records and we averaged one visit a month for her lifetime. The doc finally referred us to a pediatric allergist. My daughter had a scratch test and she is allergic to LOTS of other things. Since the scratch test hurt her so bad she was crying and coughing and the doctor said that was 'an asthma' cough. He said he would not officially make that diagnosis until she was three. He said that her coughing was more then likely the result of all these allergies and that not only the coughing, but the pink eye, runny nose, croup, ear infections, and any problems in her head are a result of her allergies. /p
pBrittany is currently on Intal, Palgic, Xeopenex (sp), and Singulair. Does anyone have experience with these medicines./p
pI've also had problems with Dr. Attitudes! We live in a relativly remote area and our choices are very limited./p
pGood luck with the breathing problems and keep your child safe./p
pBrittany's Mom/p

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