Copy of 504 plan - very brief- please give input

Posted on: Wed, 10/11/2006 - 11:12am
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This was in a chart form. One page deal. I am concerned that the SD suddenly wants to do this and came to me via the principal and the principal seems eager to sign. He said they don't want to include any names (except my child's- whom I removed here) and they want to be very brief and vague, without details. Is this too brief? Thanks so much for your time!

(To be reviewed in one year.)

Areas of concern: [Child] has a severe peanut and tree nut allergy.

Areas of difficulty:
Allergic reaction to peanut and tree nuts

1. Accommodations:
Staff in direct contact with child are trained in identifying symptoms and administering Benedryl or Epi-pen per doctors orders.

Person Responsible:
Nurse, teaching and supervisory staff in direct contact with child.

Outcome:
A safe environment for child.

2. Accommodations:
An emergency plan is created each school year to be distributed to all in direct contact with child.

Person responsible:
Nurse.

Outcome:
Doctor's orders and specific instructions are available.

3. Accommodations:
All staff is made aware of child's allergy, who child is, and where to find emergency medication.

Person responsible:
Principal, nurse

Outcome:
Fast appropriate intervention occurs in case of reaction.

4. Accommodations:
Students are informed of safety measures to prevent spread of nut products while maintaining confidentiality.

Person responsible:
principal and teachers

Outcome:
Exposure to nut products is minimized.

5. Accommodations:
A plan is created to provide a safe nut free area for child to eat lunch.

Person responsible:
principal, nurse, staff and parent

Outcome:
Exposure to nut products is minimized.

6. Accommodations:
A plan is created to provide a nut free classroom.

Person responsible:
Teacher, parent

Outcome:
Exposure to nut products minimized.

Posted on: Wed, 10/11/2006 - 11:57am
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Seems a bit light on the HOW portion of things in addition to the WHO part.
I'd point out that WHO needs to be included by name so that there isn't any "Confusion about who will be doing what." (Or legal sliding out of being responsible, either.) That's why nobody wants their names used, BTW. You can sue them if they don't do what they are obligated to in the document.
Anyway, the brevity doesn't really bug ME, but the lack of certain details would. How exactly are they going to educate classmates BUT maintain confidentiality, for example?
Train on epipen usage?
Handle subs/specials? Is this also "teacher"? If so, who will be training "teacher" and to what extent??

Posted on: Wed, 10/11/2006 - 12:40pm
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Why are the principal and nurse not involved in creating the peanut-free classroom plan? What if you don't like what the teacher wants to do?
This is a huge grey area--for instance, will they agree to hand-washing/wiping, sending a letter home to parents, inspecting snacks, what about may contain items? I'm not sure what you feel is needed for your child, but I think that this "plan to make a plan" is too vague.
Cathy
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Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 3 1/2 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.

Posted on: Wed, 10/11/2006 - 7:37pm
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Number 5 and 6 bother me. "Creating a plan" doesn't do anything. Following a plan does, if that plan is created right.
At minimum, I'd say "create and implement a written plan." That way, if they fail to follow the plan, it would still be 504 violation. And having the plan in writing is an absolute must.
I wouldn't be bothered by not putting in the teacher, principal, and nurse's names - referring to them by title seems clear to me.

Posted on: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 2:36am
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I also think it is too vague. I would not have a problem with it being short, but I would have a problem with the fact that it is not at all specific.

Posted on: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 2:53am
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I like that "outcomes" are included. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
But I also agree with everyone that this is too loose.
Plus, this is too restrictive:
Quote:Originally posted by proudmomof2:
[b](To be reviewed in one year.)[/b]
I'd make sure that the 504 Team would meet [i]at the request of any Team member [/i]and that the Team MUST be reconvened when a violation of the plan occurs.

Posted on: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 4:31am
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Yeah, I mean there wasn't even any "team", no meeting, no coordinator. I wasn't involved in any way. He just handed me the form. As far as I am aware, the principal just wrote it up himself and the nurse made changes, what - I don't know. Nothing about the specifics in the cafeteria or other places. I'm not sure if he used a template or if there is one, or guidelines. Is there a template somewhere online???

Posted on: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 4:38am
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OK, I am looking over this website/page and it seems to be good info so far on what a plan should include. Please advise if you know of another sourse as well.
[url="http://www.foodallergyadvocate.com/504Plan.htm"]http://www.foodallergyadvocate.com/504Plan.htm[/url]
BTW, you guys are awesome; I know I can count on you all for help when needed!

Posted on: Wed, 10/11/2006 - 11:57am
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Seems a bit light on the HOW portion of things in addition to the WHO part.
I'd point out that WHO needs to be included by name so that there isn't any "Confusion about who will be doing what." (Or legal sliding out of being responsible, either.) That's why nobody wants their names used, BTW. You can sue them if they don't do what they are obligated to in the document.
Anyway, the brevity doesn't really bug ME, but the lack of certain details would. How exactly are they going to educate classmates BUT maintain confidentiality, for example?
Train on epipen usage?
Handle subs/specials? Is this also "teacher"? If so, who will be training "teacher" and to what extent??

Posted on: Wed, 10/11/2006 - 12:40pm
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Joined: 03/15/2005 - 09:00

Why are the principal and nurse not involved in creating the peanut-free classroom plan? What if you don't like what the teacher wants to do?
This is a huge grey area--for instance, will they agree to hand-washing/wiping, sending a letter home to parents, inspecting snacks, what about may contain items? I'm not sure what you feel is needed for your child, but I think that this "plan to make a plan" is too vague.
Cathy
------------------
Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 3 1/2 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.

Posted on: Wed, 10/11/2006 - 7:37pm
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Number 5 and 6 bother me. "Creating a plan" doesn't do anything. Following a plan does, if that plan is created right.
At minimum, I'd say "create and implement a written plan." That way, if they fail to follow the plan, it would still be 504 violation. And having the plan in writing is an absolute must.
I wouldn't be bothered by not putting in the teacher, principal, and nurse's names - referring to them by title seems clear to me.

Posted on: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 2:36am
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I also think it is too vague. I would not have a problem with it being short, but I would have a problem with the fact that it is not at all specific.

Posted on: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 2:53am
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I like that "outcomes" are included. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
But I also agree with everyone that this is too loose.
Plus, this is too restrictive:
Quote:Originally posted by proudmomof2:
[b](To be reviewed in one year.)[/b]
I'd make sure that the 504 Team would meet [i]at the request of any Team member [/i]and that the Team MUST be reconvened when a violation of the plan occurs.

Posted on: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 4:31am
proudmomof2's picture
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Joined: 09/19/2005 - 09:00

Yeah, I mean there wasn't even any "team", no meeting, no coordinator. I wasn't involved in any way. He just handed me the form. As far as I am aware, the principal just wrote it up himself and the nurse made changes, what - I don't know. Nothing about the specifics in the cafeteria or other places. I'm not sure if he used a template or if there is one, or guidelines. Is there a template somewhere online???

Posted on: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 4:38am
proudmomof2's picture
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Joined: 09/19/2005 - 09:00

OK, I am looking over this website/page and it seems to be good info so far on what a plan should include. Please advise if you know of another sourse as well.
[url="http://www.foodallergyadvocate.com/504Plan.htm"]http://www.foodallergyadvocate.com/504Plan.htm[/url]
BTW, you guys are awesome; I know I can count on you all for help when needed!

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