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Posted on: Sat, 01/04/2003 - 8:35pm
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G'day there, its Helen's husband Geoff here.
Wow - this thread has made me so mad.
I won't respond to the crap - just wanted to tell Peggy to keep loving her son, keep vigilant and offer him all the help you can. If he wants to do stuff on his own I'm sure he'll let you know.
PA is too dangerous to ever let your guard down - I know I try to protect Helen from it every chance I get!
I guess we're 'newbies' too, but the support and comfort we get from knowing we can "talk" to you guys means so much to us.
Peggy - stay happy ad don't let the turkey get you down.
Best wishes,
Geoff
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Posted on: Sat, 01/04/2003 - 8:36pm
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Sorry - double post.
Don't you hate it when that happens?
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Posted on: Sat, 01/04/2003 - 8:38pm
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*sigh*
I was reading this thread earlier but have been busy with the Revenue Canada thing....
My comments:
I find these two phrases to be personally insulting:
" This should not be a topic discussed with parents of young PA children who have no experience in this area and that could be caused undue stress &/or fear by it. It also should not be discussed with parents who continually choose to live in turmoil."
No one knows the experiences of other members. You insult my intelligence by assuming that I am unable to critically read this thread and provide support to another member without feeling "stress &/or fear".
Secondly, you are implying that all members who have participated in this thread "continually choose to live in turmoil". You know nothing of my personal background or other issues I may be facing in my life. Nor do you know if my life is "in turmoil" or serene.
Many of us use these boards as an outlet when we require support from people facing similar problems or issues or even just to vent. If you had read as many posts as I have over the past 4 years you would know that our community represents quite a variety of people with different ways of dealing with this allergy and different comfort levels.
take care
deb

Posted on: Sun, 01/05/2003 - 12:34am
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"It also should not be discussed with parents who continually choose to live in turmoil."
It is only out of respect for Peg's request to let this drop that I am not responding to the rest of this post, but I must say that given the venom of your rhetoric it is most likely *you* that lives in turmoil. If you conduct the rest of your life as you post here, you must do serious battle everyday.
That's it for me. There is nothing else that has been said that is worth commenting on. It is all, sadly, self-explanatory.
Amy

Posted on: Sun, 01/05/2003 - 1:52am
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The only thing I want to add is to comment on Lisa's post (although I know I shouldn't bother, sigh...) about sympathy for the way "poor Paul" has been raised. As far as I can tell from Peg's posts, Paul is well prepared for the world as a pa adult. I didn't get the impression in any way that Peg has sugar coated the world for him or anything else.
As a piece of information: I have an adult friend with pa and tna. She has told me that she is so impressed with the way I advocate for my pa and tna eight year old daughter. She wishes her mom had done that for her.

Posted on: Sun, 01/05/2003 - 2:46am
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Cindy, you are a better person than I, because I can't let these comments go unanswered.
First, Lisa, please stop telling posters where to go to get their advice. While it's a great idea for Peg to post her question in the Adults Living with PA forum, and I hope she does, there is no reason she can't get good, common sense advice in another forum, and to imply otherwise is insulting and wrong. I don't expect to get advice only from other SAHMs with four year old PA daughters, nor to give advice only to someone exactly like me.
Second, for you to say that you are livid with how Paul has been raised is absolutely unspeakable. From all indications he has a loving and supportive mother who is trying to ease his way into the real world rather than throwing him in the deep end to see if he swims or drowns. The fact that she is looking to help him with the transition is not evidence that he has been coddled and overprotected. I think it is disgusting that you are calling Peg a bad parent, and you should be ashamed of yourself. To say that you are only concerned about Paul is no excuse for your hurtful behavior.
Third, as to whether we should respond to posters who ridicule, I think there are two different kinds. The first, those like the trolls who were here this past summer, are not worth responding to. They are here only to be provocative and have nothing to add to this board. But I think Lisa really wants to be a part of this community, and I don't think posters like that should be ignored. Hopefully we can have a productive discussion as to the way we should treat each other, and come out on the other side in a better place.
OK, done with my two cents.

Posted on: Sun, 01/05/2003 - 2:52am
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Quote from Lisa
"My concern is with Paul, and always has been. This is a very sad
situation that did not need to happen, and because of it, Paul does
not have the time for me to sugar coat things for his parent. I just
pray that this young man will not have to suffer the consequences of
ill preparation for his adulthood. There will always be bumps in the
road, but there should not be more than he can handle if he chooses
to find on his own or chooses to be guided to available resources such
as Peanutallery.com so that he can establish his own support group."
"Had it not been for my concern for this young man, and the many
contradictions in the carefully written postings as to the true reality of
the situation, I would not have bothered to reply to this topic.
Personally, I believe everyone should be and should have concerned
with Paul, instead wasting his time with unnecessary comments."
Lisa did you know Peg's ill-prepared son knew how to administer his own epipen by age 5????
Where are you getting your assumptions that Paul is ill-prepared?
I think you owe an apology for assuming that Peg in asking the board what they did to prepare their child to go away to school was neglectful in any
way in raising her son to be aware of how to manage his own allergy."
I wonder if someone is using your name and computer because your other posts don't sound like you in this thread. I'm just shaking my head at your responses here.
Take some time and read everything over what you are saying over and over and over without listening to anyone else. You have your eyes closed shut, your fingers inside your ears, and you need to come unplugged.
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Posted on: Sun, 01/05/2003 - 3:25am
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Is anyone concerned with Paul? Or is everyone more concerned with enabling his parent by not giving proper support and chastizing me for being brutalizing honest?
I'm assuming that people are thinking he has the time to waste while waiting for answers.
Is this correct?
I certainly don't want Paul to be making quilts or baking cookies or cleaning classrooms while waiting for direction.

Posted on: Sun, 01/05/2003 - 3:31am
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Is anyone concerned with Paul's impending entrance to the world? Or is time being wasted on his defending his parent and chastizing me for being brutally honest?
I certainly don't want Paul to be making quilts, baking cookies, cleaning classrooms, kissing anyone's a.. for people to remember him & his PA while he waits for proper support & direction. Do you?

Posted on: Sun, 01/05/2003 - 3:34am
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Does anyone "get it" yet?

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