I purchased the small blue package of chips ahoy soft cookies as a snack for the road. My PA daughter eats chips ahoy cookies all the time,and has never had a reaction to this brand. Within minutes of consumption she began to break out with those little bumps around her mouth we hadn't seen in months. They are made with p-nut flour,unlike the regular cookies.Caution to everyone.....
On Sep 19, 1999
Thank you, Deidra, for the alert!
We are also a Chips Ahoy family and my non-allergic daughter loves these cookies. We will stay clear of the *soft* ones since my peanut allergic son is allergic also by touch.
On Sep 19, 1999
My daughter is allergic to tree nuts and we also had a problem with chewy chips ahoy but in the large bag. I called the company and they determined it was a first run batch after a nut containing product. Another interesting point was the girl on the phone had me read the ingredient list to her. My package was labeled with annanato coloring but that is not supposed to be in the recipe. They immediately shipped me an envelope to mail them the package.She said they use many bakeries around the country depending on what region you live in. I no longer buy any store bought cookies. I figure if they print something on the label that isn't supposed to be in there, how many other things are accidently in there. I can't trust their labeling, so I no longer buy their products.
On Dec 16, 1999
I had added Chips Ahoy cookies to the "safe" list in my mind. Then I read the soft one's label in the grocery store and was shocked to see they contained peanuts. I went home and e-mailed Chips Ahoy...actually several times. I wanted to know why one type of Chips Ahoy had to have peanuts while the other's didn't. As the mother of a PA child, it's confusing enough to keep it all straight. We don't need a cookie company making it more challenging for us. Well, they e-mailed back several times. Never with a very impressive answer. I just hope I gave them something to think about. E-mail is a great tool to let these companies know how their products affect our lives.
On Dec 16, 1999
Are the "soft" Chips Ahoy the same for "Chewy" Chips Ahoy or are they different?
I have seen the "Chewy" ones in the store w/o a peanut warning but I don't think I have seen the "soft" ones. What color bag is it? We have eaten the original ones in the blue bag and I know the "chewy" ones are in a red bag. We have only tried the original Chips Ahoy without any problems.
I agree with the previous post. The companies need to be consistent with their products. I don't see the need for one cookie to be okay and the same company use a different ingredient for another.
On Dec 16, 1999
Whenever you run into this kind of a situation, always:
Post the contact info for the company, especially 800 numbers, e mail addresses, web sites etc. and it is important to POST the info you are told when you contact them. This helps our community in so many ways and is also a great learning experience (especially for those who do not understand yet how to stay safe). You will learn we are often told different answers when we call the same manufacturer depending on who we talk to, how experienced we are at asking (this is a skill) etc. (try calling a few times over a few day period and ask to speak to someone else if you get the same person, try to get to someone on the manufacturing floor or a manager, this often produces different results than the customer service personnel who answer the phone! How does it make you feel to know we often hear different info about their safety from the same company, depending on who you talk to?) When we find we receive different answers it should also act as a warning to us to be sure the company works harder to make a safe product or is avoided.
Don't forget what a difference we have made by doing such things. We often are contacted from manufacturers to find out what needs to be done or to find out more about peanut allergy. This often is because of all of our phone calls, e mails etc. which has alerted a company to the seriousness of the allergy or to the fact that they are not labeling well or that their manufacturing process needs to be addressed etc.
Keep up the good work!
We have been working with a U.S. government agency on a petition to the FDA for better labeling. We hope to bring it public soon after the first of the year. We need your support NOW to make this work! We cannot do it without you, even with the help of the government agency and the other organizations we will be asking to support it.
WE NEED TO BE ORGANIZED AND READY to fight for ourselves, please contact me to see what is needed asap! If we don't fight for ourselves, who will? We need to be set up to push this petition BEFORE it is made public, we need everything in place to promote it, push for it's backing etc. please help! We need many resources in place to make this happen! Send me an e mail or call now! (Eastern Standard Time)
There are some manufacturers that are doing a better job of labeling etc. (than they were doing), but until it is mandatory our safety will remain at great risk. It is also too confusing, and too much work, to remember which manufacturers (and products) to trust and which you can't (besides the products change constantly), so until it is mandatory that the labeling will inform us, we will still have to continue to contact manufacturers to be sure that each and every product they produce is labeled well and that the label covers us! Many people are under the false assumption that labeling is currently safe and some feel because they have seen some manufacturers paying more attention recently, that this will take care of the problem. Be aware that until better labeling is mandatory, you will not be able to look at a product and know if it is safe or not. You can even see examples of this when one company labels some of their products well but not all of their products, let alone from one manufacturer to the next, all deciding differently and with different criterion as to how they label. Did you know it is not mandatory to label with a "may contain" statement and so there is no standard for this statement so it can mean something different from each manufacturer. Ex. "may contain peanut" could mean manufactured on the same line as other peanut products, or it could mean they make products with peanut in the same plant, or then again it could mean there are probably peanuts in the product? How about if a company decides that even if a product is made on the same line and that there is a good chance of cross contamination, that they are not going to label it as such, is this okay with you? There are many, many manufacturers that are not addressing peanut allergy in their labeling. This is only one example of the many different ways that manufacturers can decide to label and only a sample of the many problems with current labeling. If it is not mandatory how a product should be labeled, we will not know when something doesn't say "may contain" if it actually should. So we will be in the same situation we are now, not sure if a product is safe, not sure if a product we want to purchase in a store is labeled well or not, not sure at a friends house if the product they have there is safe. Spending hours shopping and keeping track of what is safe and unsafe, putting ourselves at risk as well as our children at risk when they are at relatives homes, school, daycare, parties and so many more places where food is part of their lives. The "natural flavors" and other wording which is not specified is being addressed, since it has been found to sometimes be peanut, and many other labeling issues are addressed in the petition.
I hope you realize that better labeling is needed, if you have any questions, comments, or stories send them in!
Time is of the essence! We have been restricted about discussing what we have been doing because we did not want this to be squashed before it ever gets off the ground, from powerful lobby groups who work to oppose these changes. We have seen their political might used before! We are working for our safety while they work for their industry's interests. We often are on different sides of the fence. It is their job to do what they do, but it is our job to make it safe for us and our children. Please come on board, join with us to make this happen. Together we can do this, but we have to be united and organized and we have to do it immediately!
Back to reading labels, I am interested in knowing if the cookies Deidra purchased were labeled with the peanut flour and if it was her fault for not reading the ingredients label or if it was caused because the ingredients label was not complete or on the package. If anyone knows if this product is/was labeled peanut flour or not please post about it AND DON'T FORGET TO READ EVERY LABEL ON EVERY ITEM! TWO CANS OF THE SAME SOUP GOING IN A POT, READ BOTH CANS! MANUFACTURERS CHANGE THEIR INGREDIENTS AND PROCESSES AND YOU NEED TO READ THE INGREDIENTS EVERY TIME!!! (you now know we need to work together to make labeling changes so that labels can be trusted) ------------------ Stay Safe,
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On Dec 16, 1999
My fatally allergic son eats Chips Ahoy regular cookies all the time with no problem. We haven't tried the chewy ones.
On Dec 17, 1999
It's me again...I just spoke to the manager of the customer service department at Nabisco and she couldn't have been nicer.
She guarenteed me that the Chips Ahoy regular and chewy are peanut-free. They should pose no threat to our PA kids. They are made on a peanut-free line.
They work in concert with the Food Allergy Network and are very allergy conscious. If their products have any chance of peanut traces or cross-contamination, it will say that on the label.
Hope this helps.
On Dec 11, 2000
My PA son loves chips ahoy cookies! It is the only chocolate chip cookie I can find that I do not need to worry about- for now! WATCH OUT! I was shopping the other day and noticed that the NEW mini chip ahoys that come in a re-silable bag contained nuts.
On Dec 12, 2000
Diedra, Thank you for the input. My husband is usually in charge of cookies,and I will let him see this. We try to bake mostly because of this stuff,but you sometimes have to buy store bought. thank you claire
On Dec 12, 2000
I think Chips Ahoy are constantly going to be a topic of discussion! I know that the regular ones in the blue bag are "safe". Then, everything else seems to get kinda hazy in my mind. For example, the other day I was shopping and I did post it under Manufacturers, the Christmas Chips Ahoy (and I didn't even look to see what it is about them that makes them Christmas-y) have the "may contain" warning on them.
Of course I am pleased that the company labels. But, I am not pleased that they cannot be consistent throughout one line of cookies. I believe the same question has been raised re Oreos and they're both made by the same companies.
I e-mailed Nabisco Limited in Canada last month re peanut flour being added to Christie's (in Canada our Chips Ahoy and Oreo manufacturer) Peek Frean Cookies. I had spoken with someone on the phone. I never received a response to my e-mail so I sent it back out again last week. Still no response. I am not pleased.
The regular Chips Ahoy are currently "safe". All others, I would strongly advise that the labels be read on, even the regular Chips Ahoy that are packaged in smaller packaging. We should be thankful that Nabisco does, in fact, label properly. But, again, at Christmas time when there is another Chips Ahoy cookie added to their assortment (I loved the shortbread Chips Ahoy ones!), we really have to check our labels.
I understand that with the Christmas ones, it is probably whatever they are using as "chips" that are colourful rather than their regular brown chocolate that requires them to put the "may contain" warning on the product. It can be dismaying and frustrating, but, for the most part, I believe we can trust most of Nabisco products to be labeled correctly RIGHT NOW. The tone of my e-mail to them would not suggest that I am pleased with them. I am not clear why they had to start using peanut flour in a line of cookies that they have always produced. Why exactly? And will it happen to the products I can trust from them already - i.e., Triscuits, Ritz, Premium Plus crackers, Chips Ahoy and Oreos, with minor exceptions.
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On Dec 12, 2000
Just wondering... does Nabisco use their unsafe chocolate chips as the chips in their cookies? Would they put a warning if the cookies are made in a safe way but the chips weren't?
On Jan 3, 2001
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img]I just bought some of the mini chips ahoy for my non-allergic child. I had quickly scanned the ingredients list at the supermarket, thinking surely they would be a "may contain". We do not keep any may contains in the home. The may contain nuts/p-nuts label was not there, so I thought they were okay. However, when I read the label more thoroughly at home, I noticed the final ingredient was, ugh, PECAN FLOUR. Maybe most of you are already aware of this, but I just wanted to give a heads up and a reminder to read EVERY label EVERY time, even if it is a product you regularly use.
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On Feb 19, 2001
In response to Margaret....I always gave the mini Chips Ahoy to my daughter when they were packaged in the box. When they changed packaging to the resealable foil bag I re-read the ingredients and to my dismay there was the pecan flour. I was ticked. I called the company and complained about how they can change the packaging (which is understandable) and change the ingredients as well (not understandable) without giving a warning to consumers. She said that all they had to do was list the ingredients which they did. They do not have to inform the public any other way. Well, another snack down the tubes. Nabisco said they would send me free coupons to buy other products.......Gee....Thanks....
I always read the labels even if it is something I just bought last week at the grocery store. You just never know and we are the only ones protecting our children.
On Feb 19, 2001
We have a PA adult in our support group. She said she HAS had a reaction to regular Chips Ahoy cookies! I believe she posted that in the Reactions forum on this board. I do NOT consider any Chips Ahoy cookies safe.
On Mar 29, 2001
".....The Nut of the Matter
Labels list even the possibility of an allergy-triggering ingredient
By Neil Sherman HealthScout Reporter MONDAY, May 15 (HealthScout) -- No matter how many times you buy a product, read the label if you're allergic to nuts. Case in point, the new package for Nabisco's single-serving Mini Chips Ahoy!
While the popular chocolate chip cookies do not contain any pecans or tree nut products, according to Nabisco, the small-print list of ingredients on the package ends with pecan meal. Why? Nabisco says the cookies are made in the same plant as a brand of Chips Ahoy! made with pecans.
"We include pecan meal as the last ingredient so that we can let consumer who may have a peanut allergy know that there could be a particle of nut meal in the product," says Ann Smith, a spokesperson for Nabisco in Parsippany, N.J. "There is always the potential that cross contamination can occur, and we do not want to take any chances. So we make the information known as a public service."
"There is no pecan meal in the product," adds Smith. "But because we do have a product called Mini Chips Ahoy! With Pecans, and those products are made in the same facility, we have included pecan meal on the ingredient list on the label."
A good thing, too. A sharp-eyed young girl in Connecticut with a severe allergy to nuts recently pointed out to her mother that the new Mini Chips Ahoy! packages, which come 12 to a box, contained the pecan meal. Her mother had assumed the newly repackaged Chips Ahoy! were the same as the old and hadn't looked closely at the ingredient list.
"The entire Chips Ahoy! line has been repackaged, but there has been no change to the recipe for Mini Chips Ahoy!" Smith says. "And our product that does have pecans calls out the fact that pecans are in the product."
Peanut and/or tree nut (pecan, walnut, almond and cashew) allergies affect about 3 million Americans, according to the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology.
Nut allergies tend to be more severe than other food allergies and can be kicked of by just the merest contact with the allergen. Sometimes, even breathing the dust or smelling the oil from nuts can trigger a reaction. An allergic person who eats nuts may experience anything from a sense of fear, a flushed face, swollen or itchy lips to difficulty in breathing, rapid heartbeat, loss of consciousness, coma and even death.
About 100 Americans die every year when they go into shock after eating foods with nuts or other allergens. The problem is complicated by the fact that peanuts and nuts are being used by food processors to flavor or fill out processed foods. Peanuts, for instance, are often added to Chinese and other oriental foods, snacks, soups, cereals and baked goods, according to the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology.
But just because processed foods have nuts in them, don't expect to find the ingredient announced in large letters on the front of the package.
"It's pretty standard to have such an ingredient like nuts listed in the ingredient statement, says Susan Cruzan, a spokeswoman for the Food and Drug Administration in Washington, D.C. "The company is following the government's prescribed regulation."
And even if the company changes the recipe and includes nuts, there is no requirement that the company announce the change. "The regulation for a change in recipe is the same as having the ingredient in the product," Cruzan says. "All the ingredients need to be listed in the ingredient list."
What To Do
If you have a food allergy, check the ingredient list every time you buy a product; changes in packaging may not signal that there's been a change in what the product is made of.
Even if you're careful, it's hard to control what you eat....."
On Jul 31, 2001
i had a problem with the red package of chewy chips ahoy listing no peanuts or nuts. i called nabnisco and the lady yelled at me that if there was a problem with this it would be written. 20 min. after eating them my tongue swelled who knows what else could have happened to me or someone more alllergic G-d forbid. what can we do about this and has anyone had any of the same problems? Can't the FDA check into it and do something if there is really a problem? Thanks
On Aug 9, 2001
I have recently bought the red bag of chewy chips ahoy which the label read Ok. My five year old son ate one and said it made his throat itchy. That's it for any Chips Ahoy products for us!
On Aug 16, 2001
How angry it makes me when companies treat us like second class citizens. Even regular chips a hoys can and do contain peanut particles. I have had a reaction to them before, but only once and that could have been cross contamination.